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Electricity Generated From Water: Major Breakthrough In Clean Free Energy Confirmed
The Watchers.com ^ | May 30, 2012 | Adonai

Posted on 06/04/2012 10:26:18 PM PDT by Windflier

BlackLight Power, Inc. (BLP) announced last week a major breakthrough in clean energy technology, which experts agree holds tremendous promise for a wide range of commercial applications. The announcement comes on the heels of BlackLight’s recent completion of a $5 million round of financing to support commercial development of its new process for producing affordable, reliable energy from water vapor.

In six separate, independent studies, leading scientists from academia and industry with PhDs from prestigious universities including the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the California Institute of Technology, confirm that BlackLight has achieved a technological breakthrough with its CIHT (Catalyst-Induced-Hydrino-Transition) clean energy generating process and cell. The Process is fueled by water vapor that is a gaseous component of air and present wherever there is any source of water. The CIHT cell harnesses this energy as electrical power output and is suitable for essentially all power applications including transportation applications and electrical power production completely autonomous of fuels and grid infrastructure at a small fraction of the current capital costs.

“BlackLight’s continuously operating, power-producing system converts ubiquitous H2O (water) vapor directly into electricity, oxygen, and a new, more stable form of Hydrogen called Hydrino, which releases 200 times more energy than directly burning hydrogen,” said Dr. Randell Mills, Chairman, CEO and President of BlackLight Power, Inc., and inventor of the process. Hydrogen is not naturally available and has to be produced using energy. But, H2O vapor is ubiquitous and free, obtainable even from ambient air. Dr. Mills says that BlackLight has achieved critical milestones in scaling its new technology with typical electrical gain of more than ten times that which initiates the process, operating over long duration at the 10 Watt (W) scale. A 100 W unit is planned for completion by the end of 2012, and a 1.5 kiloWatt (kW) pilot unit that can serve the residential power market, as an initial target commercial application, is expected to be operational by 2013. (One kW is equal to 1000 W, and 1.5 kW is the typical, average power consumption of a US home.)

BlackLight has raised a total of $75 M for the development and commercialization of its breakthrough energy technology, and has license agreements with companies to use its patented commercial processes and systems in heating and electric power generation. The new BlackLight Process validation reports, including full documentation and results of theory evaluation, replication and testing of the CIHT systems, and Hydrino characterization, are publicly available at http://www.blacklightpower.com/. The website also includes links to validator resumes and to technical and business support materials, including recent presentations that further explain the BlackLight Process and a technical paper providing the detailed chemistry and identification of Hydrinos by analytical methods, which laboratories can follow and replicate.


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Each CIHT cell comprises a positive electrode, the cathode, a negative electrode, the anode, and an electrolyte that also serves as a source of reactants to form Hydrinos.

A Hydrino-producing reaction mixture creates electricity from H2O as the reactants are constituted with the migration of the electrons through an external circuit and ion mass transport through a separate internal path through the electrolyte to complete an electrical circuit.


1 posted on 06/04/2012 10:26:27 PM PDT by Windflier
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Disclaimer:

I am not qualified to argue the merits of the technology discussed in this article. I am posting it for interest's sake alone.

Enjoy.

2 posted on 06/04/2012 10:28:38 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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“(One kW is equal to 1000 W, and 1.5 kW is the typical, average power consumption of a US home.)”

No it’s not. Just the water heater alone draws more.


3 posted on 06/04/2012 10:30:35 PM PDT by GoDuke
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To: Windflier

I thought we had Niagra Falls doing that for a long time now. Tesla!

http://nyfalls.com/niagara/niagara-falls-faq12.html


4 posted on 06/04/2012 10:31:36 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Windflier

A well proven way to make electricity from water is to convert water into steam. You just need to use coal to heat up the water.


5 posted on 06/04/2012 10:31:54 PM PDT by fini
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W. Henry Weinberg, who was a professor of Chemical Engineering, Chemistry and Applied Physics at California Institute of Technology for eighteen years, a professor of Chemical Engineering, Chemistry and Materials Science at University of California, Santa Barbara for six years, and co-founder and CTO of Symyx Technologies for 13 years.

“It would be irrational not to be very skeptical, and I was extremely skeptical. However, after having reviewed Dr. Mills classical theory, participated in experimental designs and execution, and having reviewed vast amounts of other data BLP produced, I have found nothing that warrants rejection of their extraordinary claims, and I encourage aggressive optimization and fast track development of a scaled up prototype,” said Dr. Weinberg. “To be able to use hydrogen from water as a cheap and nonpolluting source of power would represent one of the most important technological breakthroughs in history.”

6 posted on 06/04/2012 10:40:09 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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From the article:

Dr. Terry Copeland, former manager of product development for several electrochemical and energy companies including DuPont Company and Duracell.

“BLP has successfully fabricated and tested CIHT cells capable of producing net electrical output up to 50 times that input to maintain the process,” said Dr. Copeland. “Some cells have produced steady power for over one month. The power generation is consistent with Dr. Mills’ theory of energy release resulting from Hydrino formation. No other source of energy could be identified. The CIHT cell will use cheap, abundant, nontoxic, commodity chemicals, with no apparent long-term supply issues that might preclude commercial, high volume manufacturing. The capital cost of the CIHT cell based on optimization of the cell dimensions is estimated to be under $100/kW compared to at least ten times that for fuel cells that further require a source of hydrogen or hydrogen gas and a fuel infrastructure.”

7 posted on 06/04/2012 10:41:48 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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From the article:

Dr. James Pugh, Director of Technology at The ENSER Corporation.

“Representatives from the ENSER Corporation witnessed the assembly and operation of multiple CIHT cells, and the results showed excess electrical energy, up to 100 times that used to maintain the process in cells run as long as sixty days,” said Dr. Pugh. “There is no apparent difficulty in assembling single cell and multi-cell units, in a production scale environment. By carefully designing and optimizing the CIHT cell, a one-liter volume could generate 3.3 kW. This is greater than that necessary for motive as well as stationary electrical power applications.”

8 posted on 06/04/2012 10:43:17 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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From the article:

Dr. K.V. Ramanujachary, Rowan University Meritorious Professor of Chemistry and Biochemistry.

“BlackLight’s CIHT electrochemical cell harnesses this fundamentally new primary energy source as electrical output by using a catalyst to cause hydrogen atoms of water molecules to transition to a lower-energy, Hydrino state, resulting in a release of energy that is intermediate between chemical and nuclear energies, and a nonpolluting product,” said Dr. Ramanujachary, who conducted one of the validation studies. “The CIHT cells constantly output stable, very high-gain electrical power for more than a month, with H2O as the only source of fuel for the process. The trace H2O vapor was supplied by a water source, or alternatively, it was extracted directly from the air, resulting in generation of electricity from water alone. This process and system that I have confirmed is truly exceptional.”

9 posted on 06/04/2012 10:44:52 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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From the article:

About BlackLight Power

BlackLight Power, Inc. was incorporated in 1991 and is based in the Princeton area of New Jersey. It has received 62 patents including four in the U.S., and has more than 100 pending patent applications for its innovative processes, process applications, and products.

The BlackLight Process uses a novel catalytic process to generate energy from water vapor, releasing the latent energy of the hydrogen atom by forming a more stable form of hydrogen called Hydrinos. The Process is applicable to essentially all power applications, including thermal, electrical, automotive, trucking, marine, rail, aviation, and aerospace.

10 posted on 06/04/2012 10:46:25 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: GoDuke

You’re thinking in terms of pre collapse to tecnocratic authoritarian socialism American usage. After that event, we’ll use about that much running the 3 compact flourescents, 600 watt microwave and fan alloted to each house...


11 posted on 06/04/2012 10:49:16 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Windflier

bflr


12 posted on 06/04/2012 10:53:42 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: GoDuke

“No it’s not. Just the water heater alone draws more.”

That’s true but the water heater doesn’t run all the time. The 1.5KW is an average consumption, which is roughly what an household uses. Take a look at your electric bill and you’ll see that that’s close to what you use. Obviously when you have your TV on, and the fridge is running and you’re drying your hair all at the same time, your peak usage will be much more, but that doesn’t last that long. At night when you’re asleep you don’t use much at all.


13 posted on 06/04/2012 10:53:51 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Windflier

If it is a good bet idea, private investors ought to give it a go.

But private investors have been trained to go to government, for risky ventures. Let the taxpayers fund the losers, leaving their money own for the eventual winners.

It would be one thing if the government money only funded risky R & D, but these days the government money is going into commercial scale risky projects like Solyndra.


14 posted on 06/04/2012 11:04:02 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Windflier
Dr. Mills says that BlackLight has achieved critical milestones in scaling its new technology with typical electrical gain of more than ten times that which initiates the process, operating over long duration at the 10 Watt (W) scale. A 100 W unit is planned for completion by the end of 2012, and a 1.5 kiloWatt (kW) pilot unit that can serve the residential power market, as an initial target commercial application, is expected to be operational by 2013. (One kW is equal to 1000 W, and 1.5 kW is the typical, average power consumption of a US home.)

Was interested until I read the above paragraph.
Looks like they have limited scalability (maybe size problems).
If they would be talking 10KW to 15 KW range, I would be interested.
1.5 KW would hardly be enough for a smallish, pull behind camper.
I have a 15KW diesel tractor turned aux. for the house with a 5.5 KW gasoline backup for it.
The 5.5 will run lights, a few fans and fridge, that's it.

15 posted on 06/04/2012 11:12:45 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Windflier

The drawing above is of a battery!


16 posted on 06/04/2012 11:15:58 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Windflier

17 posted on 06/04/2012 11:16:49 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Windflier

Solyndra part deux.


18 posted on 06/04/2012 11:22:59 PM PDT by Cyman
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I’ll believe it when I see it ... maybe. Meanwhile, I still have faith in the laws of thermodynamics, which pretty much say this is bogus.


19 posted on 06/04/2012 11:35:21 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Windflier

All of this depends on being able to push hydrogen atoms to achieve a state lower than the currently known ground state.

With the abundance of hydrogen in the universe, one would think we would have seen these hydrinos in the wild... but alas, we have not.

Which calls into question the assumptions that they can be made to exist.


20 posted on 06/04/2012 11:38:50 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: aquila48

The unit is kilowatt hours. That’s what is on my electric bill.

It’s always bad when they use the wrong units.


21 posted on 06/04/2012 11:41:06 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: aquila48

My house uses about 25-30 KW a day. And I have gas hot water and heat.


22 posted on 06/04/2012 11:43:41 PM PDT by JoSixChip (We had an opportunity to get Newt, but you blew it and now we get mitt.)
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Or a new e-cat?

Here’s a fairly neutral assessment:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacklight_Power


23 posted on 06/04/2012 11:48:33 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Windflier

So they are separating the Hydrogen from the Oxygen or are they just Manipulating the Atoms and Molecules ?


24 posted on 06/04/2012 11:53:39 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: JoSixChip

You mean 25-30 KWHr a day, not KW. (Energy not power)

If you had something that generated 1.5KW constantly it would generate 24Hr*1.5KW = 36KWH per day, which is more than you use.


25 posted on 06/04/2012 11:59:48 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Windflier

The best part is that it uses up water, so we won’t have to worry about that rising sea level problem ;-)

But where are we going to store all those hydrinos, whatever the heck they are?


26 posted on 06/05/2012 12:00:09 AM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: Windflier
BlackLight Power, Inc. (BLP). . .

Thanks for the "pump and dump" heads-up.

27 posted on 06/05/2012 12:04:24 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: aquila48

Unfortunately, I do not draw at a constant rate. So that requires storage, which is very expensive. I would need to produce on the order of 6 to 8 KW to avoid being inconvenienced.


28 posted on 06/05/2012 12:08:14 AM PDT by JoSixChip (We had an opportunity to get Newt, but you blew it and now we get mitt.)
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To: aquila48
That average value is really disingenuous the way it is being presented.
Starting surges, things being turned on sometimes at different times, sometimes at the same time is the real world to a *house's* current draw, not day long average.
Think about running a house on a 1.5 KW generator and see how far you get, not real world in the least.
Think what happens when the clothes dryer and the air conditioner unit kicks on at the same time.
The 1.5 would go up in a puff of smoke.
29 posted on 06/05/2012 12:48:33 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: aquila48

The 1.5KW is an average consumption, which is roughly what an household uses.


Energy or power? That is one question.

My daily electric usage varies, by season and by severity of any particular month, between 0.7 and 3.75 KWH/hour over any particular month.

I KNOW this, because our power co-op has online-accessible charts of both monthly & daily consumption & cost; as well as .pdf copies of monthly bills going back at least 10 years.

Is that what this is talking about? 1,5KW continuous output; and store for peaks? IOW, DC and a huge battery bank?

OR is this THERMAL Kilowatts, as in BTU/hour or calorie-seconds? If so, then the 3.3 KW amounts to about 4.4 horsepower.

This seemed to be a big confusion at first with the e-cat numbers, when doc Whatshisface was talking of building a “1 megawatt” demonstration plant. That amounted to 1,340 HP worth of steam; or 3,415,179 BTH/hour...if it had lived up to billing.


30 posted on 06/05/2012 12:59:42 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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31 posted on 06/05/2012 1:09:18 AM PDT by Roccus
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The nice thing about being hooked up to a utility company is that it supplies whatever you need.

If you have your own generating device (such as solar) and you’re hooked up to a utility company, then you can use the utility as a “virtual storage device”. In other words, during peak demand when your generating device doesn’t put out enough power your utility makes up the difference. When you’re using less power than you generate, then you feed the extra power into the utility grid and the utility credits you.

If you’re off-grid, then you need a storage device (a few days worth, depending on the availability of your generator). That means you have to be able to store about 100 KWH for a typical house. This will take care of peak demand as well as loss of generator (for a couple of days).

Solar and the device in this article generate electricity directly, so it’s 1.5KW of DC electricity.

Rossi’s ecat generated steam, so his power was thermal not electric, which means you would only get one third (roughly) of the thermal power converted into electricity. (But you could use the “waste” heat to warm your home).


32 posted on 06/05/2012 2:04:52 AM PDT by aquila48
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1.5KW is not enough to run peak loads, but it is a reasonable average. That is over 1000KWH per month. Last month I used 574KWH of electricity to run my 1400sf condo and I can tell you I have more than “a few lights and a fridge”.

To run peak loads you would either need to be grid-tied or have a battery bank and an inverter. You’d use the 1.5KW generator to keep the battery pack trickle charging. A $2,000 battery pack and a $10,000 10KW off-grid inverter are not trivial expenses, so their claim of $100/KW for the generator doesn’t tell the whole story. If they could be ganged in parallel, a few dozen 1.5KW units for $2,000 - $3,000 would allow true off-grid living.

All of which I find hard to believe because I’ve been reading things about BlackLight Power for a decade and I still can’t go to Home Depot and buy one. They could sucking in venture capitalists though. Maybe they should change their name to “BlackHole for Money”.


33 posted on 06/05/2012 2:08:25 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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...converts ubiquitous H2O (water) vapor directly into electricity, oxygen, and a new, more stable form of Hydrogen called Hydrino, which releases 200 times more energy than directly burning hydrogen,”..

aka Electrolysis.
Apparently they are able to electrolyze water vapor, that's pretty neat. But whether it produces more energy than it consumes..?
Hydrino?

34 posted on 06/05/2012 2:24:36 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: fini

Good point. If we use coal, natural gas and oil to heat, we can get the cost way up..but green.


35 posted on 06/05/2012 2:48:31 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: Windflier

bfl


36 posted on 06/05/2012 3:21:59 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Sow the wind...reap the whirlwind!)
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To: GoDuke
Just the water heater alone draws more.

1.5 kW in a day is 625 AmpH/day. This equates to the roughly 12 deep cycle batteries you will need to meet peak loads. Water heaters do not run continuously. Neither does your 1600 watt microwave or hair dryer. If you are in college, your 200 watt stereo might.

It actually sounds about right for a small home with 2-3 residents.

37 posted on 06/05/2012 3:43:41 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Windflier

...as with all things new, wait and see, usually is able to separate winners from losers.


38 posted on 06/05/2012 4:01:42 AM PDT by wita
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To: GoDuke

Saying that a house uses 1 kilowatt of electricity is like saying a car uses 1 gallon of gas. True, it will run, but for how long?

In cars, they measure energy used over distance, or the miles traveled per gallon. In houses, they use kilowatt-hours, the energy used over time.

A kilowatt is only a snapshot of how much power is being used at a given time.

So sure, at idle, with nothing running like TV sets, computers, air conditioning and the like, your house probably draws 1 Kw. As soon as the thermostat kicks on the water heater, or someone powers up a hairdryer, or you put the toast down, you’re probably already above 1 Kw.

Look up the wattage of some of your favorite appliances and you’ll realize how small a kilowatt is. Now, imagine everything that runs in that hour, and add in all those watts too. Lots more than 1 Kw.


39 posted on 06/05/2012 4:12:51 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (Are you better off than you were $4 trillion ago?)
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To: FLAMING DEATH

Maybe I should have mentioned I’m an electrical contractor? :)
Anyway, I was sleepy. I like your post.


40 posted on 06/05/2012 4:29:44 AM PDT by GoDuke
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To: GoDuke
1000 kWh per month is an average of 1370 watts constantly. That's a little above my usage.

I'm more than a little skeptical of this. The first thing I would check is to see if the cathode and anode are being chemically changed. If this is acting as a big battery when the electrolyte gets wet you could get electricity and hydrogen and oxygen without any mythic "low energy" form of hydrogen. You'll just be getting energy from the corrosion of the plates like it is a potato battery.

41 posted on 06/05/2012 5:03:14 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: Vinnie
Hydrino. An apparently mythical form of the hydrogen atom that ignores quantum mechanics and can assume a stable configuration with the electron closer to the proton than in the normal atom.

I have some oceanfront property in Wisconsin, if you are interested.

42 posted on 06/05/2012 5:16:18 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Typed using <FONT STYLE=SARCASM> unless otherwise noted)
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To: aquila48

Now that Rossi and his e-cat have been pretty much discredited, we need another “free energy” device to entertain us.

Where’s Kevmo?


43 posted on 06/05/2012 5:37:44 AM PDT by LiveFree99
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To: NVDave
With the abundance of hydrogen in the universe, one would think we would have seen these hydrinos in the wild... but alas, we have not.

Bingo.

Article claims this "new, more stable form of Hydrogen", but fails to give us any chemical description thereof, and the universe fails to produce it despite its propensity to seek lowest-energy-levels of pretty much everything. A quick search turns up descriptions of it, claiming hydrogen atoms "shrink" when banged against other atoms and transfer energy. Between the simplicity of the alleged process vs. the universe's lack of "hydrinos" one must conclude the theory is flawed on its face. Descriptions also follow the exciting results with a series of caveats which gloss over the math not adding up; if it does happen, there's not enough to cover the energy cost of splitting water in the first place (a required first step) in hopes that a rare "hydrino" may occur.

And with that...

Let's review the Three Laws Of Thermodynamics:
1. You can't win (and this guy is claiming a "win").
2. You can't break even (perpetual motion doesn't happen).
3. You can't get out of the game (can't isolate a system 100%)

44 posted on 06/05/2012 5:56:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: wita

Some things are, in fact, worth dismissing out of hand.

A basic premise of math & physics is: some things just don’t happen, and long ago we proved they don’t. Any new novel claims that such things do happen may be dismissed because we know, from proof, they don’t.

Some people just don’t grok the meaning of “proof”.


45 posted on 06/05/2012 6:02:27 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: ctdonath2

Out of the box, it had the sound of perpetual motion, something for nothing, but I’m not a scientist and the laws of thermodynamics are not burned into my memory, no pun intended.

Back when I was in higher ed, a certain individual was tinkering with Hydrogen power in automobiles, and the answer and technology were just about ready to go. That was over fifty years ago and despite fifty years it still is nowhere.


46 posted on 06/05/2012 6:13:57 AM PDT by wita
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To: Windflier
Electricity Generated From Water

Sounds like the type of scam Obama would fall for and use taxpayer’s funds to promote its demise.

47 posted on 06/05/2012 6:24:13 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: Windflier
"Hydrino"

This, alone, is reason to doubt what's going on. WTF is "hydrino" supposed to be? Chemical names mean something, and this simply doesn't.

48 posted on 06/05/2012 6:24:38 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Windflier
Just imagine the power we could get if we put algae in the water......

A 2 fer.

:-)

49 posted on 06/05/2012 6:29:01 AM PDT by Lakeshark (NbIttoalbl,cRwIdtaa)
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To: Windflier
There is something I have been wondering about maybe this is the place to ask.

I bought a small dehumidifier for an upstairs room that gets too humid. I pour out a gallon of water from the machine every 24 hours. How pure is that water? Is it like distilled water?

50 posted on 06/05/2012 6:43:24 AM PDT by Ditter
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