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World's first 'tax' on Microsoft's Internet Explorer 7
BBC News ^ | 14 June 2012 | Staff

Posted on 06/15/2012 8:11:39 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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I don’t know if this is the answer, but it is an approach to the problem.

Microsoft intentionally tries to do things that - if a website works for them - will not work for other browsers. Their stated goal some time back was to replace non-proprietary code with their proprietary code. Javascript for example.

MS purpose was that since they have the major market share developers had to develop for IE, and would be more likely not to do what it then took to make it work for standards compliant browsers - thus making those users switch thinking their browsers were deficient. When it was MS causing the problem.

When I was developing this was a major source of problems and frustration.

The solution is for MS to make browsers that are compliant enabling developers to code to a standard and the internet to work for all browsers.

There may be other and better solutions, but whatever forces encourage MS to not try to own the internet via their current method is a good thing IMHO.


41 posted on 06/15/2012 9:56:06 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Boogieman
I don't think people are married to their browsers.

How long have you been married to yours?

42 posted on 06/15/2012 10:02:41 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m a polygamist, I use Chrome, Firefox and Safari.


43 posted on 06/15/2012 10:05:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Boogieman
I’m using Telnet.

Consider an upgrade to w3m.


44 posted on 06/15/2012 10:20:48 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Boogieman

Showoff.


45 posted on 06/15/2012 10:43:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: cynwoody
I actually *do* use lynx to perform my ping list management.
46 posted on 06/15/2012 11:15:15 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: D-fendr
The solution is for MS to make browsers that are compliant enabling developers to code to a standard and the internet to work for all browsers.

Rumor has it that IE 9 was a major revamp, featuring tight standards compliance and vastly improved JavaScript performance. But I wouldn't know, because I'm too cheap to spring for Windows 7.

47 posted on 06/15/2012 12:05:57 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m not. I have 4 different browsers installed on this machine, that I use for different purposes. The thing is, I choose when I want to use those browsers, not some jackass running a webstore. As I said, I’d refuse to patronize him because of his arrogance, not because I am too lazy to switch to the other browser.


48 posted on 06/15/2012 4:12:31 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: cynwoody

Hmm, but can I play MUDs on that?


49 posted on 06/15/2012 4:15:02 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Sounds like principle for the sake of... nothing.


50 posted on 06/15/2012 4:43:34 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Hodar

Firefox.


51 posted on 06/15/2012 4:50:18 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Lazamataz

Great! Come visit my IIS 4.0 run site!


52 posted on 06/15/2012 4:56:55 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I don’t reward companies that ignore the first rule of customer service, because they don’t deserve to prosper. That isn’t actually for the sake of nothing, it’s for the sake of discouraging bad business practices.


53 posted on 06/15/2012 5:54:50 PM PDT by Boogieman
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I consider discouraging the use of IE to be a good business practice.

The thing is so insecure they have to patch it every fifteen minutes.

And getting AJAX to render correctly in it is a nightmare.

54 posted on 06/15/2012 5:59:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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“I consider discouraging the use of IE to be a good business practice.”

Well, there’s where you reveal your personal bias that is clouding your understanding. Discouraging the use of IE is certainly a good business practice for Microsoft’s competitors, but for a webstore that is completely unrelated to the browser market it is “mission creep” that can only hurt them.


55 posted on 06/15/2012 6:09:27 PM PDT by Boogieman
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Hmm, but can I play MUDs on that?

I don't know.

However, I notice there turns out to be a package that enables w3m to show images in character mode. On Ubuntu, you can install both packages with sudo apt-get install w3m w3m-img.

You can even exit your X session and type w3m google.com on your system console, and it still works!

There is also supposed to be a w3m-js package in the works to allow JavaScript to run in w3m.

56 posted on 06/15/2012 6:13:52 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Boogieman
Evidently they are willing to accept your disapproval.

I bet you get that a lot.

57 posted on 06/15/2012 6:14:26 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: cynwoody

Pff, if I can’t play antique multi-user text games on it, I’m sticking with Telnet :)


58 posted on 06/15/2012 6:16:14 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You get used to it when you are surrounded by idiots.


59 posted on 06/15/2012 6:17:03 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

You gotta ask yourself what kind of idiot surrounds himself with idiots.


60 posted on 06/15/2012 6:23:30 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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