Skip to comments."Prometheus" -- a real disappointment
Posted on 06/18/2012 1:21:42 PM PDT by pabianice
Well, I just saw "Prometheus."
First, forget the professional reviews. They have either been paid for, or the reviewers have some personal problems.
First, the good. The CGI and set production is great. Vivid colors, beautifully lit, every background detail is unimpeachable. This movie is the latest proof that movies have been given-over to looks over everything else.
Now, the bad. This movie has been given over to CGI and FX. The plot is incoherent and the characters act so stupidly that it is impossible not to laugh at what are supposed to be the most dramatic scenes. A robot is frequently the most human character.
The plot is wafer thin. We first see an alien making his body explode next to a waterfall as a huge flying saucer hovers overhead. Then on to AD 2089, where computers match ancient cave paintings to a constellation a la "Stargate." Then we see a ship entering orbit around a planet in 2093, bearing 17 explorers who have come to check-out the planet at the center of a distant solar system. The first laugh comes from the timing. The movie would have you believe that in just 80 years from now we have corporations sending-out huge FTL ships bearing people who have been in hypersleep while traveling 500,000 light years in two years time. Makes Star Trek look conservative. This nonsensical timing makes you think of Obama ending the manned space program and just detracts from the plot.
Now, the crew. The crew looks, acts, and sounds like mental patients at a half-way house. The very cream of scientific humanity, we are led to believe, most of whom signed-on to this suicide mission without having been told what the mission is. The ship's captain has apparently watched too many "Miami Vice" reruns. The corporate boss on board is the done-to-death beautiful ice princess who lacks any humanity. Perhaps I spent too much time in the real Navy, but all this ship of doofuses did was make me laugh. Zero situational awareness and just plain stupidity. Whomever wrote the script is completely clueless about military operations. Hell, even police operations.
Anyway, the ship lands and immediately the crew runs out to investigate the dangerous-looking, mysterious structures that look like giant termite hives topped by the figures of human heads. Weapons? Of course not. These are "scientists." Oooo the tension! The movie then descends into a very bad Nightmare on Elm Street parody. The crew gets lost inside the hive. Duh! What do they do? They take-off their helmets and leave them behind because they discover that inside the air is breathable. No matter that the next chamber may be poisonous and kill them all. Real SA.
In short order they find lots of alien bodies a la the giant figure on the pilots seat in the alien spaceship from the movie of that name. Something bad has happened here, people! They manage to snag the head of a dead alien to cart back to their ship when out of nowhere a mob of T5 tornadoes appears and makes the crew hustle a mad dash back to the ship. Of course, there is the compulsory people-caught-in-a- whirlwind scene that has zero drama. And two crewmen are left stranded in the hive until the wind abates. Of course, both are soon eaten horribly by monsters. I expected them to have red shirts on under their spacesuits.
Back aboard the ship, things go from bad to stupid. The friendly robot -- for no imaginable reason -- poisons some champagne with alien spores and then gives the drink to one of the brainless crewmembers. Of course, he soon metamorphosises to a hulking, super-strong alien with black goo squirting out of his arteries while he tries to kill the rest of the crew. Been there, seen that. And, per 100 previous monster movies, he proves almost impossible to kill. Soon, the entire crew is fighting giant alien exploding heads and one becomes pregnant with an alien baby. In perhaps the films most gripping scene, this poor woman she uses an automated medical care unit to give herself a caesarian as she screams in pain and watches the monster be dragged from her innards while the blood really flies. If any of this seems familiar, its because the film is supposed to be a prequel to the classic Alien from 1979.
But wait! Theres more! The robot figures-out how to reanimate the remaining alien humanoid in stasis. As Arnold Schwarzenegger says in The Last Action Hero, Big Mistake! The reanimated alien is a murderous psychopath whose DNA is human, hence the first scene of the exploding alien at the waterfall. You see, the aliens seeded their own DNA onto Earth, creating humans. Dont worry about the whole Then where did the rest of life on Earth come from? question. Its best at this point to stop asking questions about the plot of this movie.
In short order, the nusto alien kills almost the entire remaining crew by pulling their heads off (obviously didnt read the We Come In Peace primer). We then learn that he is on the way to Earth with a cargo of black goo that kills everything. His reason? You got me. But it makes the crippled story line at least move in some direction. So, the scientist who just had a caesarean done by the machine becomes the last one standing, trying to get what is left of the crew to destroy the angry aliens ship before it can launch on its way to Earth and kill everyone. I was kinda pulling for her since she has just had her two foot long incision stapled up by an industrial milling machine and it has just gotta really, really hurt. The aliens ship is, of course, a duplicate of the one the crew of Nostromo found in Alien. Get it?
Anyway, it gets even more confusing and violent and Ill let it go at this point. Suffice it to say that the Alien movie stuff really spills out of everywhere (and I mean spills) and the angry alien is stopped from going to Earth. Prometheus even lets loose ends fly so there can be a sequel. If they can find someone who can actually write. I hope its not the team that wrote this bomb.
This may have been a good 80 minute movie. But at 2+ hours, its just a prolonged disappointment.
BTW, I have no connections to the movie industry. I am just disappointed that science fiction has fallen so far from Harlan Ellison, Arthur Clarke, Larry Niven, Ray Bradbury, Philip Dick, Robert Sheckley, and so many others. Save your money and wait for this to come to cable next January. With a couple of cold ones in you and sitting on your own comfy couch, it probably wont seem as bad.
“I expected them to have red shirts on under their spacesuits.”
I liked Men in Black III. I won’t waste money on this one.
The Engineers were on that backwater planet to safely
hold the spores which became the "monsters" and then the
well known alien AFTER it passed through the
Engineer (a species which created life on Earth,
and then for some still unknown reason got
really upset and decided to whack Earth entirely).
IMHO, it is a good film.
I can’t believe that this was the best script available for this story. I was really looking forward to see this film and it was a huge waste of time.
Well, I liked it. The only real fault I found with it is that they didn’t really give any of the characters other than the android and Dr Shaw any depth, or any reason to give a crap when bad things happened to them. As far as I know, the answer as to why they wanted to kill all humans will be answered in the sequel, when the protagonist reaches the engineer’s home-world for some answers, as indicated by the storyline.
For what its worth, the music and soundtrack by Marc Streitenfeld is every bit as haunting and beautiful as Jerry Goldsmith’s was for “Alien”...
Who needs a plot when you have really expensive special effects?
Have not seen it but couple friends did and they thought it was good.
I liked it. But it’s not a movie that spoon feeds you, you actually have to think about it. If you think about it then you realize it gives 90% of the back story for the Alien franchise and sets the first movie almost to the frame. But you gotta think. Maybe that’s why this guy didn’t like it.
It has been over 50 years since we landed on the moon and I am still waiting for my flying car.
This movie is the latest proof that movies have been given-over to looks over everything else.
Now, the bad. This movie has been given over to CGI and FX. The plot is incoherent and the characters act so stupidly that it is impossible not to laugh at what are supposed to be the most dramatic scenes.”
This problem is as old as Aristotle’s Poetics.....
> I cant believe that this was the best script available for this story. I was really looking forward to see this film and it was a huge waste of time.
If you think this was a waste of time, you should watch Battleship.
Battleship is the suckiest film I’ve seen in years. Watching the tennis channel is more exciting and more believeable.
I had a flying car when I was 16.
But I found the bouncing and flipping to be not worth the trouble as we made contact with the ground again a few seconds later, and again and again...
I saw it, no suspense, no horror, little action.
1 Great Riff... “I love rocks”
Odd stuff that makes no sense
Water check, Temp in goldielocks region check, fear of Biological infection.. nope.
guy making map... gets lost ?
quad tracks racing in dust of truck ?
Random Holovids of what happened before...pure plot deviceium
Major Medical device that has only male programming.. guess the SOFTWARE upgrade for BOTH genders was too much for a TRILLION dollar project to absorb.
Capt of ship decides these things are not getting of planet.. why let the people that want to help them go into the site ?
It’s not great but not as bad as this makes it out to be. One of the great things about Blade Runner was some of the deeper open-ended questions the movie probed and didn’t answer. It made you think. I believe Ridley was going for that again here but didn’t quite pull it off. A plot hole is not a deep metaphysical question - it’s just a plot hole and this flick leaves too many of them hanging out there unaswered. I wouldn’t be surprised if I watched it again on DVD I’d see some really obscure clues in the background which would help but which no person could really be expected to pick up on the first time watching this special effects extravaganza. I give Ridley props for trying but I hope next time the execution is better script wise. I’d give it a 6 or 7 out of 10.
I’m with the reviewer. It sucked. And I DISLIKED the heroine and her imbecilic boyfriend IMMENSELY.
There was suspense and some horror.
The guy wasn’t making maps, he carried the machines that when released fed data back to the main ship which made the maps.
The holovids aren’t that random. Think about our own surveillance systems, think about how useful it would be to crime investigations if you could replay the “tape” over the place instead of on some TV. The day we get that technology cheap our surveillance systems will do it.
It wasn’t a major medical device it was a RARE medical device, and it wasn’t bought by the project it was bought by the expedition monitor for personal use.
By the time the capt decided these things weren’t getting off the planet people were already into the site.
Same here, and we were told the same, everyone really like it.
To each his own I guess. I loved it. Saw it twice.
I saw Battleship. My wife and I laughed and laughed at it. We at a lot of popcorn and killed a couple of hours, laughing and holding hands in the dark. But we didn’t expect anything from Battleship, I expected a lot more from Ridley Scott and was greatly disappointed.
We were picking a movie to see today and we watched to trailer form this movie and the one for the Marigold Hotel. I was shocked that hubby wants to see Marigold Hotel. After awhile all these big blockbuster 3D all start looking the same. We decided to pass.
Moonrise Kingdom is a great little film by Wes Anderson. He did The Life Aquatic, The Royal Tannebaums, to name just two.
And the maps were not addressable by the people that needed them... guess differential gps like equipment was not available ..or evan loran...
May have time seq wrong but I think she was talking to capt before they exited ship (and she suited up)
but you may well be correct.
Staying with plotdevicium
Major as in cost like an MRI you are correct it was rare too I don’t see daughter not dearist not having the code for females loaded if she really was that much into survival.
Still it was not a bad movie, just not up to what was expected by me, maybe I just expected too much.
The critics reviews called Prometheus “Brilliant”, “Stunning”, “Ground Breaking”, etc.
Well, it was certainly none of those things. But it was an ok movie overall. I don’t regret watching it.
The 3D effects were brilliant. It is an amazing movie visually.
But the script was marginal at best, the acting was sub-par (even the talented Charlize Theron seemed to be mailing it in), and the dialogue was very weak.
It was definitely not the movie event of the summer (”Avengers” all the way on that one). But it was a decent enough movie. If people are into the creepy Alien genre, I would recommend seeing the movie on the big screen.
It took me till the end of the movie to get it. I looked at my kid and said, “prequel to Alien.” My kid then asks how could the good Dr. Shaw give herself a cesarean and 500 years later, Ripley is telling the doctors to get this thing out of her.
It looks like they had GPS, but as we’ve already learned they’re of limited use. If you take a wrong turn you take a wrong turn. Their big mistake was not bothering to communicate to the ship until they’d gotten themselves good and turned around, then when they called they were told the storm was coming and to sit tight.
Maybe the daughter couldn’t get it, it’s a rare device, probably rare code too. And really unless you’re trying to get an abortion the difference is pretty small. Most of the arteries and important stuff are in the same places.
I thought it was a lot better than expected.
I thought it was a really good movie, I enjoyed the heck out of it, so did my friend. I intend to see it again.
And to everyone who can’t figure out why the creator alien wanted to whack mankind...if you created mankind, what would you want to do with it at this point?
I tell you I’d be mixing me up some black goo and packing it on my earth bound ship right about now, and if any of ‘em came along and tried to stop me, I’d beat ‘em just like he did in the movie.
That was the first face-hugger in her womb, not an alien implanted in her chest by a face-hugger.
There’s a difference there!
I HATED the movie. Almost every facet of the story had HUUUUUGE holes.
The film's only positive was the special effects. These were truly stunning in IMAX 3D.
If I hadn't paid extra, but saw it in just standard format, I would have REALLY hated the movie. Special effects and the IMAX 3D formatting brought my grade of the movie up to a C-. Without IMAX 3D, this movie merited a solid D.
If you want to see a movie to be entertained while you think about work, go see Battleship. If you want to see a movie to think about at work see Prometheus.
The subplot involving Dr. Shaw's cross (and faith) was intriguing. Remember that the reanimated Engineers head told "David" that they were going back to Earth to start over. That was 2000 years ago...........
Of course this is only a work of fiction. Truth, as always, will be far stranger.
“Now, the bad. This movie has been given over to CGI and FX. The plot is incoherent and the characters act so stupidly that it is impossible not to laugh at what are supposed to be the most dramatic scenes.”
It’s not just movies, it’s the entire country...
“Now, the bad. This NATION has been given over to CGI and FX. The politics are incoherent and the characters act so stupidly that it is impossible not to laugh at what are supposed to be the most dramatic scenes.”
Sequel coming this November.
I’m still going to see it, and I give this snarky review two thumbs down. Who wrote it, Rachel Maddow?
What did this guy think of “Avatar”? That was supposed to be some great movie, but it was just a ripoff of “Dances With Wolves” with blue indians. If you have to rip off Kevin Costner, you’re starting out losing.
Think of the "god" Enlil in the book "The 12th Planet" or the satellite Nomad in the original Star Trek.
Why did the android give the alien / “engineer” bio-weapon to the male archeologist? Why kill one of the two people who were the spirit of the expedition?
Well, to be fair, the android poisoned the schmuck who kept insulting him throughout the film. I suspect the android was acting under orders, and was aware of what the Engineers were doing to a much deeper degree than anyone else.
The daughter of the owner of the company may have chosen to have the prototype in her personal life pod in case she needed help and didn’t have a doctor.
2 reasons. He wanted to make life just like people, and the archeologist accidentally gave him permission when he said he’d do anything and everything for the mission. David probably didn’t think it would kill him.
I’m still going to see it. I like Ridley Scott’s stuff, but I have come to realize that I will likely see a “beautiful” movie, but not a “good” movie at the same time.
As for why the Engineers wanted to wipe out human kind. I suspect they were developing a biological super weapon, hoping to use mankind as the basis for creating it, or at least testing it out. The alien always takes on the characteristics of the host it infects. Infect a bunch of dogs, they come out a little different. Infect a human being, it comes out adapted for human beings, with high intelligence. Of course, those were the latter Xenos, the end product. The messed up though in accidentally getting infected themselves. Probably on the Derelict that the Nostromo found, the weaponized DNA had gone its full course, leading to an Alien Queen who laid the eggs.
Did you see The Fantastic Mr. Fox? I thought it was great. I know that some folks around here can’t stand George Clooney but politics aside he is a great (voice) actor in the film. It helps if you can appreciate Roald Dahl’s twisted sense of humor.
Is the 500,000 figure from the movie? Our galaxy is 100,000 lys across. Perhaps a nearby dwarf galaxy ? Was this covered in the movie ? ( That's a joke. )
Best review I have seen explaining all the plot holes ...
Red Letter Media talks about Prometheus - SPOILERS
By the way, it had a 70% box office drop off from week 1 to week 2. People were excited about it as far as an intelligent Sci-Fi prequel to Alien/Aliens and instead got migraine inducing plot holes with some cool A+ settings and eye candy. It is definitely being killed off by word of mouth and internet reviews.
As a citizen of the future, do you have any good stock tips?
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