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"Prometheus" -- a real disappointment
Regal Cinemas | 6/18/12 | Vanity

Posted on 06/18/2012 1:21:42 PM PDT by pabianice

Well, I just saw "Prometheus."

***************SPOILERS******************************

First, forget the professional reviews. They have either been paid for, or the reviewers have some personal problems.

First, the good. The CGI and set production is great. Vivid colors, beautifully lit, every background detail is unimpeachable. This movie is the latest proof that movies have been given-over to looks over everything else.

Now, the bad. This movie has been given over to CGI and FX. The plot is incoherent and the characters act so stupidly that it is impossible not to laugh at what are supposed to be the most dramatic scenes. A robot is frequently the most human character.

The plot is wafer thin. We first see an alien making his body explode next to a waterfall as a huge flying saucer hovers overhead. Then on to AD 2089, where computers match ancient cave paintings to a constellation a la "Stargate." Then we see a ship entering orbit around a planet in 2093, bearing 17 explorers who have come to check-out the planet at the center of a distant solar system. The first laugh comes from the timing. The movie would have you believe that in just 80 years from now we have corporations sending-out huge FTL ships bearing people who have been in hypersleep while traveling 500,000 light years in two years time. Makes Star Trek look conservative. This nonsensical timing makes you think of Obama ending the manned space program and just detracts from the plot.

Now, the crew. The crew looks, acts, and sounds like mental patients at a half-way house. The very cream of scientific humanity, we are led to believe, most of whom signed-on to this suicide mission without having been told what the mission is. The ship's captain has apparently watched too many "Miami Vice" reruns. The corporate boss on board is the done-to-death beautiful ice princess who lacks any humanity. Perhaps I spent too much time in the real Navy, but all this ship of doofuses did was make me laugh. Zero situational awareness and just plain stupidity. Whomever wrote the script is completely clueless about military operations. Hell, even police operations.

Anyway, the ship lands and immediately the crew runs out to investigate the dangerous-looking, mysterious structures that look like giant termite hives topped by the figures of human heads. Weapons? Of course not. These are "scientists." Oooo… the tension! The movie then descends into a very bad Nightmare on Elm Street parody. The crew gets lost inside the hive. Duh! What do they do? They take-off their helmets and leave them behind because they discover that inside the air is breathable. No matter that the next chamber may be poisonous and kill them all. Real SA.

In short order they find lots of alien bodies a la the giant figure on the pilot’s seat in the alien spaceship from the movie of that name. Something bad has happened here, people! They manage to snag the head of a dead alien to cart back to their ship when out of nowhere a mob of T5 tornadoes appears and makes the crew hustle a mad dash back to the ship. Of course, there is the compulsory people-caught-in-a- whirlwind scene that has zero drama. And two crewmen are left stranded in the hive until the wind abates. Of course, both are soon eaten horribly by monsters. I expected them to have red shirts on under their spacesuits.

Back aboard the ship, things go from bad to stupid. The friendly robot -- for no imaginable reason -- poisons some champagne with alien spores and then gives the drink to one of the brainless crewmembers. Of course, he soon metamorphosises to a hulking, super-strong alien with black goo squirting out of his arteries while he tries to kill the rest of the crew. Been there, seen that. And, per 100 previous monster movies, he proves almost impossible to kill. Soon, the entire crew is fighting giant alien exploding heads and one becomes pregnant with an alien baby. In perhaps the film’s most gripping scene, this poor woman she uses an automated medical care unit to give herself a caesarian as she screams in pain and watches the monster be dragged from her innards while the blood really flies. If any of this seems familiar, it’s because the film is supposed to be a prequel to the classic “Alien” from 1979.

But wait! There’s more! The robot figures-out how to reanimate the remaining alien humanoid in stasis. As Arnold Schwarzenegger says in “The Last Action Hero,” Big Mistake! The reanimated alien is a murderous psychopath whose DNA is human, hence the first scene of the exploding alien at the waterfall. You see, the aliens seeded their own DNA onto Earth, creating humans. Don’t worry about the whole “Then where did the rest of life on Earth come from?” question. It’s best at this point to stop asking questions about the plot of this movie.

In short order, the nusto alien kills almost the entire remaining crew by pulling their heads off (obviously didn’t read the “We Come In Peace” primer). We then learn that he is on the way to Earth with a cargo of black goo that kills everything. His reason? You got me. But it makes the crippled story line at least move in some direction. So, the scientist who just had a caesarean done by the machine becomes the last one standing, trying to get what is left of the crew to destroy the angry alien’s ship before it can launch on its way to Earth and kill everyone. I was kinda pulling for her since she has just had her two foot long incision stapled up by an industrial milling machine and it has just gotta really, really hurt. The alien’s ship is, of course, a duplicate of the one the crew of Nostromo found in “Alien.” Get it?

Anyway, it gets even more confusing and violent and I’ll let it go at this point. Suffice it to say that the “Alien” movie stuff really spills out of everywhere (and I mean “spills”) and the angry alien is stopped from going to Earth. “Prometheus” even lets loose ends fly so there can be a sequel. If they can find someone who can actually write. I hope it’s not the team that wrote this bomb.

This may have been a good 80 minute movie. But at 2+ hours, it’s just a prolonged disappointment.

BTW, I have no connections to the movie industry. I am just disappointed that science fiction has fallen so far from Harlan Ellison, Arthur Clarke, Larry Niven, Ray Bradbury, Philip Dick, Robert Sheckley, and so many others. Save your money and wait for this to come to cable next January. With a couple of cold ones in you and sitting on your own comfy couch, it probably won’t seem as bad.


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1 posted on 06/18/2012 1:21:48 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

“I expected them to have red shirts on under their spacesuits.”

:D

I liked Men in Black III. I won’t waste money on this one.


2 posted on 06/18/2012 1:29:23 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: pabianice
SPOILER alert:

The Engineers were on that backwater planet to safely
hold the spores which became the "monsters" and then the
well known alien AFTER it passed through the
Engineer (a species which created life on Earth,
and then for some still unknown reason got
really upset and decided to whack Earth entirely).

IMHO, it is a good film.

3 posted on 06/18/2012 1:32:56 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: pabianice

I can’t believe that this was the best script available for this story. I was really looking forward to see this film and it was a huge waste of time.


4 posted on 06/18/2012 1:33:12 PM PDT by The Louiswu (Pray for America)
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To: pabianice

Well, I liked it. The only real fault I found with it is that they didn’t really give any of the characters other than the android and Dr Shaw any depth, or any reason to give a crap when bad things happened to them. As far as I know, the answer as to why they wanted to kill all humans will be answered in the sequel, when the protagonist reaches the engineer’s home-world for some answers, as indicated by the storyline.
For what its worth, the music and soundtrack by Marc Streitenfeld is every bit as haunting and beautiful as Jerry Goldsmith’s was for “Alien”...


5 posted on 06/18/2012 1:33:44 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: pabianice

Who needs a plot when you have really expensive special effects?


6 posted on 06/18/2012 1:34:23 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: pabianice

Have not seen it but couple friends did and they thought it was good.


7 posted on 06/18/2012 1:34:40 PM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: pabianice
The makeup on the “Old Guy” was preposterous. Looked like something from the 50s.
8 posted on 06/18/2012 1:34:47 PM PDT by DManA
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To: pabianice

I liked it. But it’s not a movie that spoon feeds you, you actually have to think about it. If you think about it then you realize it gives 90% of the back story for the Alien franchise and sets the first movie almost to the frame. But you gotta think. Maybe that’s why this guy didn’t like it.


9 posted on 06/18/2012 1:36:12 PM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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To: pabianice
The movie would have you believe that in just 80 years from now we have corporations sending-out huge FTL ships bearing people who have been in hypersleep while traveling 500,000 light years in two years time.

It has been over 50 years since we landed on the moon and I am still waiting for my flying car.

10 posted on 06/18/2012 1:39:29 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: pabianice

This movie is the latest proof that movies have been given-over to looks over everything else.

Now, the bad. This movie has been given over to CGI and FX. The plot is incoherent and the characters act so stupidly that it is impossible not to laugh at what are supposed to be the most dramatic scenes.”

This problem is as old as Aristotle’s Poetics.....


11 posted on 06/18/2012 1:41:06 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: pabianice
This nonsensical timing makes you think of Obama ending the manned space program and just detracts from the plot.

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12 posted on 06/18/2012 1:42:05 PM PDT by newheart (At what point does policy become treason?)
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To: The Louiswu

> I can’t believe that this was the best script available for this story. I was really looking forward to see this film and it was a huge waste of time.

If you think this was a waste of time, you should watch Battleship.
Battleship is the suckiest film I’ve seen in years. Watching the tennis channel is more exciting and more believeable.


13 posted on 06/18/2012 1:43:24 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (End the racist, anti-capitalist Obama War On Freedom.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
I am still waiting for my flying car.

I had a flying car when I was 16.

But I found the bouncing and flipping to be not worth the trouble as we made contact with the ground again a few seconds later, and again and again...

14 posted on 06/18/2012 1:44:51 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: pabianice

Sucked!!!


15 posted on 06/18/2012 1:45:48 PM PDT by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: discostu

I saw it, no suspense, no horror, little action.

1 Great Riff... “I love rocks”

Great effects

Odd stuff that makes no sense

Water check, Temp in goldielocks region check, fear of Biological infection.. nope.

guy making map... gets lost ?

quad tracks racing in dust of truck ?

Random Holovids of what happened before...pure plot deviceium

Major Medical device that has only male programming.. guess the SOFTWARE upgrade for BOTH genders was too much for a TRILLION dollar project to absorb.

Capt of ship decides these things are not getting of planet.. why let the people that want to help them go into the site ?


No it was not great movie nor a bad one just b+ fare that could not decide was it a prequel or an alternate story or a stand alone...


16 posted on 06/18/2012 1:48:36 PM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: pabianice

It’s not great but not as bad as this makes it out to be. One of the great things about Blade Runner was some of the deeper open-ended questions the movie probed and didn’t answer. It made you think. I believe Ridley was going for that again here but didn’t quite pull it off. A plot hole is not a deep metaphysical question - it’s just a plot hole and this flick leaves too many of them hanging out there unaswered. I wouldn’t be surprised if I watched it again on DVD I’d see some really obscure clues in the background which would help but which no person could really be expected to pick up on the first time watching this special effects extravaganza. I give Ridley props for trying but I hope next time the execution is better script wise. I’d give it a 6 or 7 out of 10.


17 posted on 06/18/2012 1:50:57 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Diogenesis

I’m with the reviewer. It sucked. And I DISLIKED the heroine and her imbecilic boyfriend IMMENSELY.


18 posted on 06/18/2012 1:51:41 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Bidimus1

There was suspense and some horror.

The guy wasn’t making maps, he carried the machines that when released fed data back to the main ship which made the maps.

The holovids aren’t that random. Think about our own surveillance systems, think about how useful it would be to crime investigations if you could replay the “tape” over the place instead of on some TV. The day we get that technology cheap our surveillance systems will do it.

It wasn’t a major medical device it was a RARE medical device, and it wasn’t bought by the project it was bought by the expedition monitor for personal use.

By the time the capt decided these things weren’t getting off the planet people were already into the site.


19 posted on 06/18/2012 1:56:19 PM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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To: trailhkr1
Have not seen it but couple friends did and they thought it was good.

Same here, and we were told the same, everyone really like it.

20 posted on 06/18/2012 1:56:19 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: pabianice

To each his own I guess. I loved it. Saw it twice.


21 posted on 06/18/2012 1:57:39 PM PDT by strider44
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"Who needs a plot when you have really expensive special effects?"

Amen to that. The spurned daughter, the robot "son" programmed by the not-quite-as-dead-as-we-were-to-believe dad. A crew of red shirts I had not sympathy or connection with, in fact I didn't care for anyone on that ship with the exception of the robot who was the most fascinating character in the film.
Plot holes you could drive a truck through, the film did NOT connect well to the Alien film, in fact I believe the producers are hoping for a sequel as the planet Prometheus takes place on was not LV-426, the planet where Alien takes place but is LV-223.
I cannot believe that the female heroine takes an alien space ship on a hunt for the Engineers (to ask them why they hate us now) in a ship that most likely is full of the weaponized DNA (for lack a better description), the stuff she almost got killed by with the head of an insane robot stashed in a bag.
How does she expect to survive? Will the Engineer stasis chamber work for her, if it doesn't, then what?
And why does anyone build a space ship in the shape of a horseshoe??? What happens when you get to one end of ship and realize you forgot your space wrench clean around the other end?! Just going for a little jog boss, be right back in an hour or so, (must be a union ship).
The medical machine or "autodoc" was lifted right out of some very good science fiction, Ringworld by Larry Niven to name just one source for that idea. I hate it when current screen writes openly steal ideas and concepts from past writers and think no one will notice.

I love Alien and Aliens, the rest is garbage, including the current, badly made, Prometheus. IMHO.

22 posted on 06/18/2012 2:00:42 PM PDT by The Louiswu (Pray for America)
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To: BuffaloJack

I saw Battleship. My wife and I laughed and laughed at it. We at a lot of popcorn and killed a couple of hours, laughing and holding hands in the dark. But we didn’t expect anything from Battleship, I expected a lot more from Ridley Scott and was greatly disappointed.


23 posted on 06/18/2012 2:05:51 PM PDT by The Louiswu (Pray for America)
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To: pabianice

We were picking a movie to see today and we watched to trailer form this movie and the one for the Marigold Hotel. I was shocked that hubby wants to see Marigold Hotel. After awhile all these big blockbuster 3D all start looking the same. We decided to pass.


24 posted on 06/18/2012 2:06:05 PM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: Hildy

Moonrise Kingdom is a great little film by Wes Anderson. He did The Life Aquatic, The Royal Tannebaums, to name just two.


25 posted on 06/18/2012 2:09:24 PM PDT by The Louiswu (Pray for America)
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To: discostu

And the maps were not addressable by the people that needed them... guess differential gps like equipment was not available ..or evan loran...

May have time seq wrong but I think she was talking to capt before they exited ship (and she suited up)
but you may well be correct.

Staying with plotdevicium

Major as in cost like an MRI you are correct it was rare too I don’t see daughter not dearist not having the code for females loaded if she really was that much into survival.

Still it was not a bad movie, just not up to what was expected by me, maybe I just expected too much.


26 posted on 06/18/2012 2:13:11 PM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: pabianice

The critics reviews called Prometheus “Brilliant”, “Stunning”, “Ground Breaking”, etc.

Well, it was certainly none of those things. But it was an ok movie overall. I don’t regret watching it.

The 3D effects were brilliant. It is an amazing movie visually.

But the script was marginal at best, the acting was sub-par (even the talented Charlize Theron seemed to be mailing it in), and the dialogue was very weak.

It was definitely not the movie event of the summer (”Avengers” all the way on that one). But it was a decent enough movie. If people are into the creepy Alien genre, I would recommend seeing the movie on the big screen.


27 posted on 06/18/2012 2:13:39 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Hildy

It took me till the end of the movie to get it. I looked at my kid and said, “prequel to Alien.” My kid then asks how could the good Dr. Shaw give herself a cesarean and 500 years later, Ripley is telling the doctors to get this thing out of her.


28 posted on 06/18/2012 2:14:45 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: Bidimus1

It looks like they had GPS, but as we’ve already learned they’re of limited use. If you take a wrong turn you take a wrong turn. Their big mistake was not bothering to communicate to the ship until they’d gotten themselves good and turned around, then when they called they were told the storm was coming and to sit tight.

Maybe the daughter couldn’t get it, it’s a rare device, probably rare code too. And really unless you’re trying to get an abortion the difference is pretty small. Most of the arteries and important stuff are in the same places.

I thought it was a lot better than expected.


29 posted on 06/18/2012 2:21:00 PM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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To: pabianice

I thought it was a really good movie, I enjoyed the heck out of it, so did my friend. I intend to see it again.

And to everyone who can’t figure out why the creator alien wanted to whack mankind...if you created mankind, what would you want to do with it at this point?

I tell you I’d be mixing me up some black goo and packing it on my earth bound ship right about now, and if any of ‘em came along and tried to stop me, I’d beat ‘em just like he did in the movie.


30 posted on 06/18/2012 2:23:07 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: discostu

31 posted on 06/18/2012 2:24:48 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

That was the first face-hugger in her womb, not an alien implanted in her chest by a face-hugger.

There’s a difference there!


32 posted on 06/18/2012 2:25:16 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: strider44
To each his own I guess. I loved it. Saw it twice.

I HATED the movie. Almost every facet of the story had HUUUUUGE holes.

The film's only positive was the special effects. These were truly stunning in IMAX 3D.

If I hadn't paid extra, but saw it in just standard format, I would have REALLY hated the movie. Special effects and the IMAX 3D formatting brought my grade of the movie up to a C-. Without IMAX 3D, this movie merited a solid D.

33 posted on 06/18/2012 2:26:19 PM PDT by Sideshow Bob
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To: chris37
I enjoyed the movie as well. I think a lot of folks went in with the preconceived notion that this is a direct prequel to Alien and were disappointed that it was not. It was also a movie that you had to pay close attention to to catch the subtle details and plot twists.

If you want to see a movie to be entertained while you think about work, go see Battleship. If you want to see a movie to think about at work see Prometheus.

The subplot involving Dr. Shaw's cross (and faith) was intriguing. Remember that the reanimated Engineers head told "David" that they were going back to Earth to start over. That was 2000 years ago...........

Of course this is only a work of fiction. Truth, as always, will be far stranger.

34 posted on 06/18/2012 2:45:43 PM PDT by Species8472 (Stupid is supposed to hurt)
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To: pabianice
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c104.0.403.403/p403x403/181812_320038908081431_355307184_n.jpg

So what was that Black Goo?

How was it different from the Green Goo.

Why did those dumb broads run in a straight line

Why didn't they do psychological profile test on those scientists? What was the point of reveling Charlize Theron as Waylin daughter?

35 posted on 06/18/2012 2:46:55 PM PDT by KC_Lion (I am finished with listening to empty promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.)
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To: ConservativeDude

“Now, the bad. This movie has been given over to CGI and FX. The plot is incoherent and the characters act so stupidly that it is impossible not to laugh at what are supposed to be the most dramatic scenes.””

It’s not just movies, it’s the entire country...

“Now, the bad. This NATION has been given over to CGI and FX. The politics are incoherent and the characters act so stupidly that it is impossible not to laugh at what are supposed to be the most dramatic scenes.””

Sequel coming this November.


36 posted on 06/18/2012 3:02:33 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: pabianice
i thought so anyway... tried watching it several times but seeing Frashier's brother Niles every time i looked at the android didn't help either
37 posted on 06/18/2012 3:13:46 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: pabianice

I’m still going to see it, and I give this snarky review two thumbs down. Who wrote it, Rachel Maddow?


38 posted on 06/18/2012 3:21:58 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: pabianice

What did this guy think of “Avatar”? That was supposed to be some great movie, but it was just a ripoff of “Dances With Wolves” with blue indians. If you have to rip off Kevin Costner, you’re starting out losing.


39 posted on 06/18/2012 3:24:23 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: chris37
And to everyone who can’t figure out why the creator alien wanted to whack mankind...if you created mankind, what would you want to do with it at this point?

Think of the "god" Enlil in the book "The 12th Planet" or the satellite Nomad in the original Star Trek.

40 posted on 06/18/2012 3:29:15 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: pabianice

Why did the android give the alien / “engineer” bio-weapon to the male archeologist? Why kill one of the two people who were the spirit of the expedition?


41 posted on 06/18/2012 3:34:18 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: pabianice

Well, to be fair, the android poisoned the schmuck who kept insulting him throughout the film. I suspect the android was acting under orders, and was aware of what the Engineers were doing to a much deeper degree than anyone else.


42 posted on 06/18/2012 3:36:30 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: discostu

The daughter of the owner of the company may have chosen to have the prototype in her personal life pod in case she needed help and didn’t have a doctor.


43 posted on 06/18/2012 3:39:21 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2

2 reasons. He wanted to make life just like people, and the archeologist accidentally gave him permission when he said he’d do anything and everything for the mission. David probably didn’t think it would kill him.


44 posted on 06/18/2012 3:41:50 PM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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To: pabianice

I’m still going to see it. I like Ridley Scott’s stuff, but I have come to realize that I will likely see a “beautiful” movie, but not a “good” movie at the same time.


45 posted on 06/18/2012 3:42:55 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: pabianice

As for why the Engineers wanted to wipe out human kind. I suspect they were developing a biological super weapon, hoping to use mankind as the basis for creating it, or at least testing it out. The alien always takes on the characteristics of the host it infects. Infect a bunch of dogs, they come out a little different. Infect a human being, it comes out adapted for human beings, with high intelligence. Of course, those were the latter Xenos, the end product. The messed up though in accidentally getting infected themselves. Probably on the Derelict that the Nostromo found, the weaponized DNA had gone its full course, leading to an Alien Queen who laid the eggs.


46 posted on 06/18/2012 3:48:21 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: The Louiswu

Did you see The Fantastic Mr. Fox? I thought it was great. I know that some folks around here can’t stand George Clooney but politics aside he is a great (voice) actor in the film. It helps if you can appreciate Roald Dahl’s twisted sense of humor.


47 posted on 06/18/2012 4:05:53 PM PDT by 31R1O
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To: Bubba_Leroy
The movie would have you believe that in just 80 years from now we have corporations sending-out huge FTL ships bearing people who have been in hypersleep while traveling 500,000 light years in two years time.

Is the 500,000 figure from the movie? Our galaxy is 100,000 lys across. Perhaps a nearby dwarf galaxy ? Was this covered in the movie ? ( That's a joke. )

48 posted on 06/18/2012 4:09:43 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: pabianice

Best review I have seen explaining all the plot holes ...

Red Letter Media talks about Prometheus - SPOILERS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x1YuvUQFJ0

By the way, it had a 70% box office drop off from week 1 to week 2. People were excited about it as far as an intelligent Sci-Fi prequel to Alien/Aliens and instead got migraine inducing plot holes with some cool A+ settings and eye candy. It is definitely being killed off by word of mouth and internet reviews.


49 posted on 06/18/2012 4:11:23 PM PDT by Gen-X-Dad
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To: Bubba_Leroy
It has been over 50 years since we landed on the moon

As a citizen of the future, do you have any good stock tips?

50 posted on 06/18/2012 4:43:51 PM PDT by whd23 (Every time a link is de-blogged an angel gets its wings.)
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