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VANITY - Could the Obamacare decision start the ball rolling for CWII?
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Posted on 06/28/2012 2:19:42 PM PDT by lado

Here's my thinking. I understand that states can refuse to accept the funding for Obamacare, thus not paying for the parasites in their state. Some ultra-lefty states, like California, Illinois, Massachusetts, are going to go all out for the money, so all their bangers, illegals and other assorted welfare cases can get theirs. Other states like Texas may refuse the money.

What I can see happening over time is the parasites in red states moving to blue states to get the 'free' healthcare, while the producers in blue states who are paying for this BS will move to red states to escape, setting up a geographic divide. I think that divide will be a necessary factor in precipitating CWII.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: civil; obamacare; states; war

1 posted on 06/28/2012 2:19:48 PM PDT by lado
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To: lado

Border populations will skyrocket.


2 posted on 06/28/2012 2:22:11 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: lado

No.


3 posted on 06/28/2012 2:29:13 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: lado
I don't think so. How would it be possible for say, Idaho to join with Alabama and Texas?

The redstates are too scattered.

4 posted on 06/28/2012 2:36:21 PM PDT by Copenhagen Smile (Are you not entertained?!)
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To: lado
Corey Cogdell
5 posted on 06/28/2012 2:39:30 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: lado

Well, I certainly wouldn’t mind the scenario in which all the freeloading scum migrates itself away to blue-states, hopefully breaking the backs of their state budgets, descending them all to the hell they so richly deserve for ushering in the traitorous Kenyan Marxist to begin with.


6 posted on 06/28/2012 2:40:48 PM PDT by greene66
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To: newzjunkey

LOL no kidding. The whole red/blue thing is an idiotic and inaccurate. If blue state people are going to red states (which they are) then those red states are becoming blue states themselves. Most of the so called red states are most heavily infected with illegals already. If anything the states will flip.

That said, a civil war is an idiotic desire that would kill a lot of innocents on both sides.

What we need is a nationwide economic revolt driven by the states themselves.


7 posted on 06/28/2012 2:44:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: lado

If they are too lazy to have healthcare, they are too lazy to move.


8 posted on 06/28/2012 2:47:06 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: lado

Hell no! The new season of American Idol starts in January. The populace can’t he bothered by missing that!


9 posted on 06/28/2012 3:05:35 PM PDT by JoshuaLawrenceChamberlain
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To: Copenhagen Smile
Depending on next November, lots of Blues may end up saying Adios Rojos. Won't be any CW2, this time the economic balance is on the seceders side. If anything the Reds will come crying when they are without pot to pee in or window to throw it out of.

Something dramatic has to change. At minimum the Tax authority under the Constitution needs to be more clearly defined and requiring 2/3rds vote to increase or enact any new tax or fee, Balanced Budget, no more funny accounting practices on budgets, annual independent accounting audit on all departments, very harsh criminal penalties for vote fraud, no one on welfare in any form allowed to vote.

10 posted on 06/28/2012 3:05:46 PM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: X-spurt
"...no one on welfare in any form allowed to vote."

Millions of "professional" Americans who appear to be well-to-do (debt to their gills) are about to be forced onto welfare by law and tax penalties (up to approximately $30,000 a year for families of four for Medicaid). Matter of fact, most of those opting out will be some of those who won't owe taxes each year--the few hard working and more independent folks among the poor). ...no tax owed, no penalty for avoiding insurance/medicaid.

More likely, we who are going "Galt" (self-sufficiency, no welfare, little income, little spending, little revenue generation,...) will be somehow denied the vote by the debt/revenue-sucking, government-pensioned/employed, political, regulating NIMBY neighbors.

On with the default process to small government. Have some popcorn. Enjoy watching the political/regulator class, as it riots tomorrow.


11 posted on 06/28/2012 3:36:06 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: lado

We have a choice - we can surrender or re-group and counter-attack. Counter-attacks frequently lead to victory.

I am ready to reload and advance forward!


12 posted on 06/28/2012 3:36:29 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: lado
"...ball rolling for CWII?

Won't be an "CWII." ...only zombie, ex-government income recipients trying to steal chickens.


13 posted on 06/28/2012 3:42:47 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: lado

Nah. Americans no longer have the stomach for any fights, much less CWII.

The only thing that will prompt a change at this point is a complete economic collapse. We took a giant step forward towards that today.

Shouldn’t be too much longer now, and the Kenyan’s work will be complete.


14 posted on 06/28/2012 4:27:03 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: cripplecreek

“What we need is a nationwide economic revolt driven by the states themselves.”

In other words, a Civil War III. The first two (1776 and 1861) were based on economics, as well.


15 posted on 06/28/2012 6:24:14 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

But it wouldn’t be anything like a civil war and its unlikely a shot would be fired. The only states that would likely side with the feds would be Northeast and west coast states with Illinois maybe.

If you get enough states trading among themselves while refusing to collect federal taxes, the feds would quickly find themselves wanting to sit down at the bargaining table. There is a lot of wealth in this country and the feds use it for control but seizing control of our wealth would drive change in a hurry.


16 posted on 06/28/2012 7:08:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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