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‘What global warming really looks like’ – Michael Oppenheimer FAIL
Watts up with That? ^ | June 28, 2012 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 06/30/2012 9:15:08 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well, I warned everybody yesterday. That briefing was put together by Climate Nexus, an advocacy and communications group. An accompanying report on heat waves and climate change was released simultaneously at climatecommunication.org

The usual suspects put that document together. See below.

Expert Reviewers:

Now with a telephone press conference, Climate Nexus seer Michael Oppenheimer says he knows “what global warming looks like”, and it apparently is a hazy yellow-orange.

“It looks like heat, it looks like fires, it looks like this kind of environmental disaster… this provides vivid images of what we can expect to see more of in the future.”

In Colorado, wildfires that have raged for weeks have killed four people, displaced thousands and destroyed hundreds of homes.

Because winter snowpack was lighter than usual and melted sooner, fire season started earlier in the US, with wildfires out of control in Colorado, Montana and Utah.

The high temperatures that are helping drive these fires are consistent with projections by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which said this kind of extreme heat, with little cooling overnight, is one kind of damaging impact of global warming.

Others include more severe storms, floods and droughts, Oppenheimer said.

The stage was set for these fires when winter snowpack was lighter than usual, said Steven Running, a forest ecologist at the University of Montana.

Full article here h/t to reader Alwyn Poole.

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I wonder, did global warming look like this same yellow-orange hazy hellfire back in 1988 before Jim Hansen turned it into a cause?

Above – The Fires at Yellowstone National Park, 1988 when CO2 was at the “safe level” of approximately 350 parts per million according to Dr. James Hansen in this non peer reviewed declaration.  Image from yellowstonecountry.org

The NPS talks about fire history of the region in the context on 1988:

Such wildfires occurred across much of the ecosystem in the 1700s. But that, of course, was prior to the arrival of European explorers, to the designation of the park, and the pattern established by its early caretakers to battle all blazes in the belief that fire suppression was good stewardship. Throughout much of the 20th century, park managers and visitors alike have continued to view fire as a destructive force, one to be mastered, or at least tempered to a tamer, more controlled entity. By the 1940s, ecologists recognized that fire was a primary agent of change in many ecosystems, including the arid mountainous western United States. In the 1950s and 1960s, national parks and forests began to experiment with controlled burns, and by the 1970s Yellowstone and other parks had instituted a natural fire management plan to allow the process of lightning-caused fire to continue influencing wildland succession.

We are living in the age of crazy.

UPDATE: Here is some important data to counter these crazy claims. From SOS Forests who writes:

The founder and purveyor of Watts Up With That, the premier climate realist website and blog (twice the winner of the Best Science Blog), the estimable Anthony Watts, has posted some of our fire graphs [here].

But they are outdated (my fault). Here are the latest:

Data are from the National Interagency Fire Center.

There are some evident trends.

1. Total acres burned has increased from the 1960’s to this Century, from an average of 4.6 million acres per year to 6.8 million acres per year.

2. Average acres per fire has also increased, from a low in the 1970’s of 21 acres per fire to 83 acres per fire in this Century.

3. Number of fires per year has decreased from a high (1975-1984) of nearly 190,000 fires per year to 83,000 fires per year this Century.

Fewer but larger fires this Century, and more acres burned in total.

To me this suggests a legacy of poor fuel management rather than “global warming”.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax

1 posted on 06/30/2012 9:15:12 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: All
The Drudge Report is focusing on the weather...:

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2 posted on 06/30/2012 9:20:21 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Lancey Howard; ...

fyi


3 posted on 06/30/2012 9:23:55 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Look at the weather from around 1930 to 1940. Major records were set all over the scale. High temps, low temps, droughts, heavy rain etc, all were represented.


4 posted on 06/30/2012 9:30:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
Posted this earlier:

‘Climate is not what you expect, the weather is what you get’

From post #10;

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Then again at the right time scales, repeating patterns every 6558 days for the past 73 years, are in phase enough to forecast daily weather at about 65% accuracy for precipitation, and hitting the daily temps within 3 degrees 23% of the time,

5 posted on 06/30/2012 9:42:26 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
THE UNDERLYING—AND NOT SO SUBTLE—DERANGED AGENDA 0F SOME OF THE ENVIRO-NUT MOVEMENT’S LEADERSHIP

These quotes will AMAZE you AND SHOULD FRIGHTEN EVERYONE These people are deadly serious and have more influence on public policy in our country than ever before.

“The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States.
We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the US.
WE HAVE TO STOP THESE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES RIGHT WHERE THEY ARE.
” - Michael Oppenheimer, Environmental Defense Fund

“We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public’s imagination… SO WE HAVE TO OFFER UP SCARY SCENARIOS, MAKE SIMPLIFIED, DRAMATIC STATEMENTS AND MAKE LITTLE MENTION OF ANY DOUBTS…Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.” - Dr. Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology, lead author of many IPCC reports

“The emerging ‘environmentalization’ of our civilization and the need for vigorous action in the interest of the entire global community will inevitably have multiple political consequences. Perhaps the most important of them will be a gradual change in the status of the United Nations.

“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? ISN’T IT OUR RESPONSIBLITY TO BRING THAT ABOUT?” - Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Program

“Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty, reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control.” ” - Professor Maurice King

“GIVING SOCIETY CHEAP, ABUNDANT ENERGY WOULD BE THE EQUIVALENT OF GIVING AN IDIOT CHILD A MACHINE GUN” - Prof Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University

MY THREE MAIN GOALS WOULD BE TO REDUCE HUMAN POPULATION TO ABOUT 100 MILLION WORLDWIDE, DESTROY THE INDUSTRIAL INFRASTRUCTUREM AND SEE WILDERNESS, WITH IT’S FULL COMPLEMENT OF SPECIES, RETURNING THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.” /b> -Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!

“A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” - Ted Turner, founder of CNN and major UN donor

“… the resultant ideal sustainable population is hence more than 500 million but less than one billion.” - Club of Rome, Goals for Mankind

I SUSPECT THAT ERADICATING SMALL POX WAS WRONG. IT PLAYED AN IMPORTANT PART IN BALANCING ECOSYSTEMS.” - John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

“IF I WERE REINCARNATED I WOULD WISH TO BE RETURNED TO EARTH AS A KILLER VIRUS TO LOWER HUMAN POPULATION LEVELS.” - Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, patron of the World Wildlife Fund

“A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells; the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people. We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparently brutal and heartless decisions.” - Prof Paul Ehrlich, The Population Bomb

“I don’t claim to have any special interest in natural history, but as a boy I was made aware of the annual fluctuations in the number of game animals and “Complex technology of any sort is an assault on human dignity. IT WOULD BE LITTLE SHORT OF DISASTROUS FOR US TO DISCOVER A SOURCE OF CLEAN, CHEAP, ABUNDANT ENERGY, BECAUSE OF WHAT WE MIGHT DO WITH IT.” - Amory Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute

“The prospect of cheap fusion energy is the worst thing that could happen to the planet.” - Jeremy Rifkin, Greenhouse Crisis Foundation

“We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. EVEN IF THE THEORY OF GLOBAL WARMING IS WRONG, WE WILL BE DOING THE RIGHT THING IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY.” - Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation

“The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.” emeritus professor Daniel Botkin

“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis…” - David Rockefeller, Club of Rome executive member

“The emerging ‘environmentalization’ of our civilization and the need for vigorous action in the interest of the entire global community will inevitably have multiple political consequences. Perhaps the most important of them will be a gradual change in the status of the United Nations.

“The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.” - Professor Daniel Botkin

“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis…” - David Rockefeller, Club of Rome Ex.Member

“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? ISN’T IT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BRING THAT ABOUT?” - Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Program

6 posted on 06/30/2012 9:46:22 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Its been hot here in southern Michigan for a few days and we even hit 101 on Thursday. On the other hand, I haven’t forgotten that we got down to 39 degrees on Wednesday night.

Patternwise, its been very dry in my corner of the state.


7 posted on 06/30/2012 9:50:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Princeton University’s mucking foron.


8 posted on 06/30/2012 10:07:06 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Hmmmmm.... this picture looks Photo Shop(ped).... :0)


9 posted on 06/30/2012 10:20:51 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A lot if not most of the trouble we’ve had with fires since the 90s arises from SlicKKK KKKlintler’s Interior secretary, Babbit, shutting down the programs which existed until that time of clearing underbrush in forest areas.


10 posted on 06/30/2012 12:54:34 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Bigh4u2
LOL!

Thanks.

11 posted on 06/30/2012 12:58:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Interesting set of graphs.


12 posted on 06/30/2012 2:06:18 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This is great, Ernest. Let's eliminate all CO2 on the planet. After all, if we're producing it, we should be able to stop, right? Right?

Then we'll see a whole planet full of dead and burning vegetation, but the good news is that the CO2 levels will return to normal again from all the burning.
13 posted on 06/30/2012 6:22:09 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady
"..Let's eliminate all CO2 on the planet. ... Then we'll see a whole planet full of dead and burning vegetation.. "

We would be damned lucky if the planet burned if there were no CO2 left other wise we would look like mars in a few months. Because all the planets would be dead with no CO2. At 220 ppm which isn't much lower then we are at today plants stop growing.

14 posted on 07/02/2012 8:56:14 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Of course, I was being absurd. [smiles] It's not possible to get rid of all the CO2, regardless how much the commies accuse us of producing, and therefore controlling it.

I live in the middle of a tiny CO2 production plant (forest).

15 posted on 07/02/2012 11:38:05 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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16 posted on 07/02/2012 8:32:28 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And the fact that we stopped managing our forests in the 80s and we now have turned all our public lands into a massive tinderbox just looking for a spark has nothing to do with this.

These people are idiots.


17 posted on 07/02/2012 11:17:03 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The warmists are trying to fan the flames, but the CAGW fire is now about 50% contained. Like the good little arsonists that they are, they will go somewhere else and try to get another blaze going.


18 posted on 07/03/2012 3:42:23 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Conservatives need to go on the offensive... Two can play this game.

Our side can say it's global cooling. Then we get a bunch of sell-out, washed-out science hacks like they have and give them grants to panic about global cooling.

When winter comes we tell people 'this is what it'll be like'...

19 posted on 07/03/2012 8:30:12 AM PDT by GOPJ (Way to go Kraft Foods. I now associate your brand with anal sex.(Oreo cookies) Freeper agere_contra)
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