Posted on 07/01/2012 7:57:19 PM PDT by trekdown
Obamacare is now essentially upheld. There’s only one way it can be overturned. The same way it was passed — elect a new president and a new Congress. That’s undoubtedly what Roberts is telling the nation: Your job, not mine. I won’t make it easy for you.
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He is worse. Roberts is a very evil human being.
Yes he is and eventually even Roberts will recognize that.
Why? Alito voted to rule Obamacare unconstitutional.
and we will discuss it in depth - again and again - many years ahead ...
Make me wonder: what if a pro-life group challenged Roe on the grounds of later hypocrisy in re. the right to privacy, using a list of subsequent Supreme Court decisions that backed up FedGov when it invaded citizens' privacy in any other matter?
Left wing judges don’t give a damn if we know they are biased. Right wing judges bend over backwards to show they aren’t biased.
That is why we will lose the nation. Our side refuses to be street fighters, while their side will bite, pull hair and kick the groin. We lose.
Our gentleman jurists are selling off our freedom. Right is right. You don’t destroy a nation and uphold unconstitutional law just to show how fair you are.
FUJR.
What you have discovered is that the Supreme Court is nothing but an example of any court ruling dependent upon the current fervor of the Democratic Party (or so it seems).
What you and many other have finally understood is that the Courts, including the Supreme Court, are political and have no reality in determining the actual Constitution as written.
That is a major problem for the survival of our Country! If this continues along the same lines as it has been, it will only be up to the people to correct the problem. Either we are a nation of laws (not political laws established by the current prevailing party) or we are NOT! When the laws are established by the politically active and are not based on the Constitution, we are all in trouble. It only gets worse when the Supreme Court disregards constitutionality!
Only time will tell...
Say for the sake of argument you are right.
The sitting Democratic administration threatens to deport the “illegally adopted” children of the US Chief Justice on the eve of the most important ruling he will decide in his career.
Do I understand you correctly? Really? Do you have any clue how it would look if on the eve of the SCOTUS ruling the DOJ comes out and says they are going to deport the Chief Justice’s children when he goes on to rule against the Administration.
Please tell me you are not serious about that. Such a blatantly transparent move would be picked up even by the liberal MSM.
Roberts politicized this decision when he failed to rule the case on the merits. Roberts is the one who politicized the decision.
So you are saying that the law currently on the books should be disregarded and or ignored to allow illegals (regardless of circumstances) to become citizens?
Are you law abiding or not? Are you simply worried about how it would look? For you or for you party?
That is what our problem is! Can we either be a land of laws or just pretend to be and let circumstances dictate the outcome. While I can agree with you emotionally, if you are going to uphold the law, then you have to do it!
Seems to be the same with our Supreme Court. You’ve seen what becomes of their ideals about the law and whether it is valid or not. Geez...when will it end.
Either change the law or uphold it - no in the middle!
The previous response was meant for tbw2...sorry.
Inspite of all of the above, in this particular case, I will repeat after Sarah Palin: Thank you, SCOTUS. This Obamacare ruling fires up the troops as America’s eyes are opened! Thank God
You know, I’ve thought about the idea that they know (are foxes) what they are doing but have decided that they are too dumb to actually come together and find any solution. That does mean that they are too dumb to agree on anything other than what would benefit most of them.
As to the future, I can only grimace, hold my breath, and hope that the electorate actually elects decent leaders. Actually, I;d better not hold my breath or my death would only invigorate them..heh.
Yes, we do seem to be doomed at this point! Still have hope for the future though - check out your local Tea Party.
“Your job, not mine. I won’t make it easy for you.”
What he actually said was “ “It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.”
Well we don’t live in a simple democracy, we live in a CONSTITUTIONAL republic. Meaning that even if the people through their political choices elect representatives that would vote to restrict, say, freedom of speech, that would be an act that the supreme court would be obliged to strike down.
Any law that violates the constitution is “illegal” and it is the duty of the supreme court to invalidate it, or else we’re no longer a constitutional republic. That was the whole purpose of the constitution - to put certain basic rights beyond the reach of simple politics - in a way, to protect people from themselves, from their shortsightedness.
Given that this law violated the constitution through its mandate it should have been struck down. If the proponents wanted it bad enough they could have rewritten it to comply with the constitution and try passing it again.
Roberts instead chose to rewrite it himself and deem his new version passed by congress.
This stands as one of the most cowardly, incompetent and damaging rulings since Roe v Wade and the privacy argument.
Krauthammer is a fool to believe that this sordid episode has enhanced or “repaired” the court’s reputation. All it has done is elevated the scorn for it on the right and taught the left that Roberts can be easily intimidated.
A really sad day for America.
I’m sorry, I really like Charles Krauthammer but he is being way too sympathetic here. The Supreme Court blew it big time and he is trying to give excuses.
Giving the excuse that it is up to the people to overturn this unconstitutional mandate is simply wrong! While I understand his statements regarding the Court, he is just wrong! It is the job of the Supreme Court to uphold the Constitution, not uphold any parties view of the Constitution. Either party! Only on Abortion has the Supreme Court been so political, now with this, it has reached a point of no return. It is now confirmed that even the Supreme Court is subject to political influence even if it creates major conflicts with the U.S. Constitution.
We have come to an end (our own making) of the Supreme Court being the law of the land. It is now the law of the current acceptable outcome.
As I said to before - It is the job of the Supreme Court to specify laws that are unconstitutional. That is a simple and emphatic role that they were assigned. If they decide to go political, that means throwing out the Constitution. No argument, no discussion. If you think that they ignored the Constitution, then they were wrong and not upholding the Constitution as written.
If you think that they were making a political ploy, or caving to a political party then you have just accepted that the rule of law is invalid.
According to my understanding, it does not matter why Roberts "uphold unconstitutional law just to show how fair" he is. What is much more important now is the following result of his action: "more than half of all registered voters - 53 percent - said they were more likely to vote for their member of Congress if he were running on a platform of repealing the law, up from 46 percent before the ruling."
I should add that you are RIGHT... A SAD day for America indeed!
There are more rulings by the Supreme Court that need to be overturned! This is just the latest...Could be that this could become an avalanche?
I’d suggest that overturning the Democrat Party - both the house of Representatives and Senate will be just a start. We need control of the Executive also to insure compliance.
Them we will need the people to revolt (uprising to some) and get some of these laws and regulations passed or repealed (whether through the Congress or through Executive orders). I’ve discovered that the Executive has much more power than previously determined (by watching Obama). The President can override many regulations by all agencies and even allow growth in the economy - what a relief that would be.
Obamacare would just be a simple no fund order by the President. At that point, it would be up to the Congress to reject/pass a different law - maybe even regarding lawsuits... Ah I can only hope and dream (not to conflict with hope and change).
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