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Is SETI at risk of downloading a malicious virus from outer space?
io9 ^ | 6/27/12 | George Dvorsky

Posted on 07/11/2012 2:09:03 PM PDT by LibWhacker

We take it for granted that the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) is a safe endeavor. Seriously, what could possibly go wrong with passively searching for interstellar radio signals? Unfortunately, the answer is quite a lot –- especially if the incoming signal contains something malicious, like a computer virus or Trojan horse.

And according to the experts, this isn't just idle speculation – the threat is very real. So, just how concerned do we need to be?

To get a better sense of this possibility, we spoke to two experts on the matter: Andrew Siemion, a PhD candidate in astronomy at SETI-Berkeley, and Milan Cirkovic, Senior Research Associate at the Astronomical Observatory of Belgrade and a leading expert on SETI.

We'll get to their answers in just a second, but it's worth doing a quick review to understand where this idea came from –- and not surprisingly, it's science fiction inspired by science.

Visions of viral doom

Science fiction writers have been worried about this possibility ever since the advent of SETI, back in the early 1960's.

Soon after the launch of Frank Drake's Project Ozma in 1960, which was the pioneering attempt to listen for extraterrestrial radio signals, the BBC produced A for Andromeda, a television series that was written by the acclaimed cosmologist and science fiction writer Fred Hoyle. The story concerns a group of scientists who detect a radio signal from a distant galaxy that contains instructions for the design of an advanced computer. The scientists decide to go ahead and build the computer, which in turn produces a new set of instructions for the creation of a living organism, named Andromeda. It's at this point where one of the scientists raises an objection, amid fears that Andromeda's purpose is to subjugate humanity.

In 1968, Stanislaw Lem reprised this issue in his novel His Master's Voice. In the story, scientists work to decode what seems to be a message from outer space, specifically a neutrino signal from the Canis Minor constellation. As the scientists decode the data, they conclude that it is a mathematical description of an object, possibly a molecule or even an entire genome. They go on to construct two strange substances that exhibit odd properties, a glutinous liquid and a solid object that looks like a slab of red meat. They learn that the liquid can cause an atomic blast at a remote location –- which, if used as a weapon, would make deterrence impossible. As a result, many of the scientists become convinced that it's an extraterrestrial weapon of some sort.

And more recently, the idea of receiving instructions from aliens was explored by Carl Sagan in his 1985 novel Contact (which was made into a major motion picture in 1997). But unlike his worrywart sci-fi predecessors, Sagan portrayed aliens as being genuinely friendly.

In Sagan's story, extraterrestrial contact is made, with the aliens transmitting the blueprints to a massive engineering project — supposedly for us to build. After much consideration, the device is constructed, and it turns out to be a transportation device for a single human occupant.

Carl Sagan always held firmly to his belief in benign aliens. He was convinced that any advanced civilization had to be friendly by default — that overly aggressive or misguided aliens would have destroyed themselves prior to advancing to such a stage. His theory suggested that an interstellar selectional effect was happening, and the only advanced aliens left standing would be the good ones.

Be careful

Sagan's optimism notwithstanding, we should probably be more than a little bit wary of receiving a signal from a civilization that's radically more advanced than our own.

When we spoke to SETI-Berkeley's Andrew Siemion, he admitted that SETI is aware of this particular risk, and that they've given the issue some thought. He stressed that SETI's primary objective is just to detect a signal. "Detecting signals is far easier than decoding them," he told io9. "Our searches don't attempt to decode or decipher any information content from signals that trigger our algorithms." In other words, the folks at SETI-Berkeley are only concerned with whether or not a signal is present, and whether it's real.

But that doesn't mean they're still not careful. When we asked Siemion about the possibility of inadvertently receiving or downloading a virus, he stressed that the possibility is extraordinarily low, but not impossible.

"Our instruments are connected to computers, and like any computers, they can be reprogrammed," he warned. "Our software receives input that ultimately comes from unknown sources, and again, while this input is never executed or decoded, we don't perform rigorous checks to validate this unknown input like a computer security conscious programmer might do with an internet application."

Siemion speculated that, if an extraterrestrial intelligence had very deep knowledge of the software systems we use for our experiments and the architecture of our computers, they might be able to send a sequence of signals that would cause a memory buffer to overflow and perhaps allow arbitrary code execution.

"However, if ET had this level of knowledge about terrestrial technology," he said, "it would make far more sense to use a similar technique with the thousands of satellite downlink stations dotting the globe, or the billions of cell phone radios constantly listening for a ping from a cellphone tower."

Siemion stressed that this doesn't apply to such projects as SETI@Home and Astropulse, which he said are "thoroughly vetted by very competent computer security professionals, and every effort is made to ensure [their] safety."

In regards to the threat of a Trojan horse, Siemion admitted the possibility, but doubted that humanity would ever blindly follow a set of blueprints or instructions that we received from another intelligent civilization.

"Just as human cultures establish trust over many decades and centuries moving in small steps, humanities' relationship with an extraterrestrial civilization would likely evolve slowly over perhaps many millennia," he told io9. "Maybe after many thousands of years, when humanity has established some level of rapport with our cosmic neighbors, we might feel comfortable accepting and utilizing their technology."

Be afraid

Like Siemion, Milan Cirkovic also believes that the risk of acquiring something nasty from an ETI is very real. But he's a bit more worried. Alien invaders won't attack us with their spaceships, he argues — instead, they'll come in the form of pieces of information. And they may be capable of infiltrating and damaging or subverting our computing networks, in a manner that's similar to the computer viruses we're all too familiar with.

Cirkovic admits, however, that the possibility should be taken with a grain of salt. In order to work, an alien virus would have to somehow know or intuit our protocols and operating systems.

"The efficiency of a virus in achieving its malicious task is proportional to the degree of its specialization. More general viruses are, therefore, less efficient," he tells io9. "To be able to infiltrate our networks, the alien virus should be general to a fantastic degree."

When we asked Cirkovic what the purpose of an ET virus might be, he responded, "If we discard anthropocentric malice, it seems that the most probable response is that they have evolved autonomously in a network of an advanced civilization -– which may or may not persist to this day." If this is the case, speculated Cirkovic, these extraterrestrial viruses would probably just replicate themselves and subvert our resources to further transmit themselves across the Galaxy. In other words, the virus may or may not be under the control of any extraterrestrial civilization –- it could be an advanced AI that's out of control and replicating itself by taking over the broadcast capabilities of each civilization it touches. A very frightening thought.

To prevent this, Cirkovic suggests that we should sever any connection between the SETI and METI (messages to ET) equipment, and the rest of the human info-sphere. He admits that this is easier said than done.

Cirkovic's fear is not without warrant — after all, people write viruses here on Earth all the time, for no particular reason. Perhaps signals such as these are the ultimate manifestation of computer viruses — a self-replicating information system that finds compatibility with others, thereby infecting it.

It's clear from our conversations with Siemion and Cirkovic that extraterrestrial life may be more bizarre and dangerous than we can imagine. Should humanity eventually receive a transmission from the depths of space, we would do well to treat it with great caution and consideration.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: malicious; seti; virus; xplanets
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To: LibWhacker
If humanity is gullible enough to accept the likes of Obama and Stalin and Lenin and Hitler and Ahmadinejad and Castro and Mao and Chavez, as leaders, then, we are gullible enough to accept viruses from alien civilizations that could destroy us. More proof of that, is the fact that, billions of people are willing to accept the lies of the global warming hoaxers, and would vote to re-elect Obama.

Plus, there will always be those who will feel the need to "explore" the alien signals, even as they knew that, there is a danger involved in doing so.
21 posted on 07/11/2012 3:17:52 PM PDT by adorno
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To: LibWhacker
This alien has asked to look at my hard drive. I will get back to you . . .


22 posted on 07/11/2012 3:21:47 PM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: LibWhacker

First find simple bacteria on Mars and then we can worry about these supposed super aliens.


23 posted on 07/11/2012 3:24:08 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: LibWhacker
Y'all are aware that there is a group of people-- though I don't know how large (unless you count scientologists) who think aliens are already among us, and controlling us... and that only those "in the know" (like our power leaders) really know what's up.

This is an explanation of the bizarre "one world order" worldism of GHW Bush, Clintoonians, GW, and bamalamadingdong. It's all "part of the plan". That and legalizing loco weed to better "convey" the proles to their proper place. Hey, it worked for the Incan ruling class with mama coca!! This has been around since the TV show "The Invaders"... don't forget to look at the little finger!

24 posted on 07/11/2012 3:27:53 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: LibWhacker
without knowing the architecture of earthly electronics and the computer code running them, i fail to see how they could do much harm...
25 posted on 07/11/2012 3:28:37 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: LibWhacker

Wouldn’t be funny if aliens were from an OSX world. And they all revered Windows. Yeah...that would be funny.


26 posted on 07/11/2012 3:31:05 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: LibWhacker
"Carl Sagan always held firmly to his belief in benign aliens. He was convinced that any advanced civilization had to be friendly by default — that overly aggressive or misguided aliens would have destroyed themselves prior to advancing to such a stage. His theory suggested that an interstellar selectional effect was happening, and the only advanced aliens left standing would be the good ones. "

Sagan, like all liberals, understood nothing about human nature, or about nature in general. Anyone who did could never make the claim he made. There is nothing in nature or in man's history to indicate that advanced civilizations do anything other than despoil inferior cultures and supplant them with their own--mostly in the name of conquest.

Siemion and Cirkovic seem on a more likely track. My personal beliefs run along the line of Edward Harrison's solution to the Fermi Paradox.

The Fermi Paradox states:

The apparent size and age of the universe suggest that many technologically advanced extraterrestrial civilizations ought to exist. However, this hypothesis seems inconsistent with the lack of observational evidence to support it.

Harrison's solution?

An intelligent species beyond a certain point of technological capability will destroy other intelligence as it appears, as is exemplified by the theorised extermination of Neanderthals by early man. Such behavior would be an act of prudence: an intelligent species that has overcome its own self-destructive tendencies might view any other species bent on galactic expansion as a kind of virus.

We should keep our heads down. :)
27 posted on 07/11/2012 3:32:01 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Member of the BBB Club - Bye-Bye-Barry!!! President Barack "Down Low" Obama)
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To: LibWhacker

Just to be on the safe side... I’m playing ALL of my Slim Whitman albums... right now!!

And replaying Charlie Sheen in “The Arrival”, where I always wanted someone to spray the “grasshopper men” aliens with
bug spray— and have one say “This stuff just killlls me!!”


28 posted on 07/11/2012 3:32:30 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Charles Martel

Splendid! Let’s do what we can to bring this poor man home. First - open airlock and start walking...


29 posted on 07/11/2012 3:33:24 PM PDT by Noumenon (I will not pay the Obama jizya.)
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To: ari-freedom

Yeah! I know that they are discovering planets at a furious clip these days, but we’re also learning the limits of habitability, not only on a solar system but also galactic scale. Too much radiation in the inner galactic regions.


30 posted on 07/11/2012 3:33:24 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: adorno
So, in that regard... assuming these greater intelligence aliens have studied us and this predilection for stupidity and self destruction, perhaps they just "check in" every now and then to see if we've done ourselves in.

I tend to like "The Day the Earth Stood Still" , only in the abstract though, because Sagan-like, they assume that Klaatu's species is benign, though powerful. Sort of like world socialism, benign and overwhelming.

31 posted on 07/11/2012 3:44:19 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
So, in that regard... assuming these greater intelligence aliens have studied us and this predilection for stupidity and self destruction, perhaps they just "check in" every now and then to see if we've done ourselves in.

You're not far from the truth.

The truth is that, humanity has not really advanced. Oh, yeah, we have advanced technologically, and knowledge-wise, but, we haven't advanced socially or governmentally or economically. We continue repeating the same mistakes of the past, which prevents us from moving forward and making the world a better place in which to live, socially and economically. Technology only allows us to destroy ourselves a lot faster, while we continue to pretend that, we are "progressing".
32 posted on 07/11/2012 3:50:35 PM PDT by adorno
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To: LibWhacker

Of course not! We’re not even getting pop-up advertising...


33 posted on 07/11/2012 4:33:45 PM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: Charles Martel
Ha ha, sorry suckers, but I already assisted this man am currently waiting for the transfer.

However, I may need to borrow a few dollars to pay for internet since their was a banking glitch and the bank accidentally sent ALL of my money to Dr Tunde after I transferred the $3K. But don't worry, he seems legit and promised to return it.

34 posted on 07/11/2012 4:37:05 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (Why do cops have more lenient ROEs when facing us than troops in combat facing suicidal islamists?)
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To: dead

Yes, seems far-fetched, doesn’t it? I mean, if they are a billion years ahead of us technologically, they ought to be able to download their viruses directly to those wrinkly computers between our ears. Why bother with, what to them, must be primitive silicon-based technology?

It always gets me when people talk seriously about that ridiculous claim that a 100 billion years from now advanced “people” will be able to build a computer as large as the universe itself, using all the matter and energy in the univere, and resurrect everything that ever lived with it. Now, I do not know what the future will bring, but I can pretty much guarantee that the most awesome or wonderful or frightening or useful technology around in those far-distant days isn’t going to have anything to do with something primitive man (and that’s how we’ll be viewed) invented in 1950.


35 posted on 07/11/2012 5:08:59 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Sudetenland

Sagan was a dreamer, we need dreamers, but we don’t need everyone making policy to be dreamers, we need realists too.


36 posted on 07/11/2012 5:13:18 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: LibWhacker

We use CISC chips, we are safe for now cause no sane species would use cisc chips.


37 posted on 07/11/2012 5:14:49 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: omega4179

The. Best solution if we find signals from apparently hostile aliens would be turn earth into “foretress earth” which would involve moving all life on earth underground while nuking the surface repeatedly and sending out fake news signals documenting a “world wide themonuclear war” then sucking all the air off the surface and leaving earth to be a “lifeless” rock and hoping the mothership finds mars a nicer place to pillage....


38 posted on 07/11/2012 5:19:53 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

I hear IED’s work nicely.


39 posted on 07/11/2012 5:36:44 PM PDT by omega4179 ( el 0bama comio un perro)
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To: LibWhacker

“I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.”
- Babbage (1864, father of computing)


40 posted on 07/11/2012 5:41:25 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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