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The Dark Knight Rises might be spectacular to look at... but it's humourless and too long
UK Daily Mail ^ | July 16, 2012 | Chris Tookey

Posted on 07/16/2012 12:29:24 PM PDT by C19fan

Director Christopher Nolan has done an intelligent job of assembling a blockbuster finale that brings back a few previous supervillains and makes a neat, emotionally satisfying conclusion to the trilogy of Batman films he has directed. He also has the courage to grapple, however superficially, with two big themes - the fear of terrorism and economic collapse. .......................................................

The bad news is that it lasts two hours 45 minutes, which is astonishingly bloated – and unforgivable in a film that spends a long, ponderous hour getting started.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: cuban leaf

Yes, I’ve seen Red Tails. Im also a big WWII and military aviation buff. It unnecessarily simplified and trivializes the story of the Tuskeegee Airmen and perpetuates a lot of myths and stereotypes. The location shooting is excellent but the CGI is mediocre, the P-51 was simply incapable of F-22 style maneuvering and supersonic flight, as Lucas’ FX would make it seem.

I cringed repeatedly throughout it. The 7 year old sitting next to me LOVED it . But the kid probably loved Jar Jar too.

The HBO movie, albiet with lower production values, is magnitudes better.


21 posted on 07/16/2012 1:20:38 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: cuban leaf

Yes, sorry, can’t type. I do know the airplane. BTW, saw “Hunger Games” and thought it was very good. Pretty conservative theme, actually: government is oppressive, individuality is stifled.


22 posted on 07/16/2012 1:21:34 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: C19fan

Tell this Brit that, at $15 bucks a ticket, I want my money’s worth.

The longer the movie, the better.


23 posted on 07/16/2012 1:25:08 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: AU72

What is John Carter?


24 posted on 07/16/2012 1:30:16 PM PDT by Mr. K (OBAMA MUST BE STOPPED ROMNEY/GINGRICH)
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To: C19fan

Hugely turned off by the preview showing Catwoman (Selena Kyle) as some kind of idiotic “99 percent-er” lecturing Bruce Wayne about class and money. Idiotic. Selena Kyle wanted to make money even if she had to steal it (albeit with style). She wasn’t a hippie.


25 posted on 07/16/2012 1:31:37 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: Mr. K

I haven’t read the Burrough’s books, but (as you probably know) John Carter was supposed to be a real man’s man. Yet the casting and marketing of the FILM made it look like a workout video for abs of steel or something. Pass.


26 posted on 07/16/2012 1:36:48 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: C19fan

A Brit says it is humourless. Sounds like it must be a thrilling comedy!


27 posted on 07/16/2012 1:46:33 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: Mr. K

[ What is John Carter? ]

Who is John Galt?


28 posted on 07/16/2012 1:47:05 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Mr. K
Casablanca hasn’t been done again yet

Well, there was the five-episode miniseries starring *shudder* David Soul in 1983.

29 posted on 07/16/2012 2:30:24 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: C19fan

The latest production to emerge from good ol’ Hollywood on the Monongahela here.


30 posted on 07/16/2012 2:35:58 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: cuban leaf

I personally think almost every movie would be improved if cut to less than 120 minutes, preferably 90. I can only think of a handful of movies that truly deserve to be longer than two hours ... Lawrence of Arabia, for one.


31 posted on 07/16/2012 2:38:04 PM PDT by oilwatcher
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To: pabianice
Where to start?

You start here, of course.

32 posted on 07/16/2012 2:58:31 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Mr. K
What is John Carter?

The movie bomb released this summer that cost the Disney CEO his job.

33 posted on 07/16/2012 3:09:28 PM PDT by AU72
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To: C19fan

As soon as I see someone say a movie is too long I know that reviewer is into FX not plot. 2 and 45 minutes didn’t used to be a long movie, it used to be just a movie. But summer blockbusters went on a shrinking rampage in the late 80s through the 90s until 1 30 became the “norm”, some movies even dropping to 1 20. Movies are getting long again to compete, actually trying to give people $10 of entertainment, and they’re growing this by putting plot, characterization and setting back. Go back and the original summer blockbuster, Jaws, there’s a good 45 minutes worth of movie that only tells you about the people and the situation, including of course Quint’s speech about delivering the bomb. But of course there’s a generation of reviewer that grew up on hour and a half block busters that see those scenes as “things that happen between explosions”, which is sad for them.


34 posted on 07/16/2012 3:17:55 PM PDT by discostu (Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.)
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To: pogo101

Selena is a tool used by the League of Shadows. Remember, in Batman Begins, they wanted to use economics to destory Gotham but it didn’t work before so they resorted to terror.

Now they have to get rid of Batman and are using the 99% crap as another economic tool and an excuse to create violence.

Nolan has been good in using current topics as plot background. The Dark Knight was loosely based on the war on terror.


35 posted on 07/16/2012 3:23:04 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are useless and useful idiots.)
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To: Mr. K

Casablanca hasn’t been done on the big screen again. But there have been 2 attempts to turn it into a TV show and 3 tries at a musical only one of which hit the stage. Of course even all the way back then Hollywood loved remakes, just the year before Casablanca Bogie was in the 3rd movie made in 10 years from the novel Maltese Falcon. Given how expensive movies are to produce Hollywood has always preferred things with a known audience, so they do books, and plays, and remakes, pretty much from day 1.


36 posted on 07/16/2012 3:24:42 PM PDT by discostu (Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.)
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To: C19fan
Batman is supposed to be humorless ...

And we all know whose fault that is ...

(And whose fault it is that Batman has to wear a hard girdle-like costume now.)

37 posted on 07/16/2012 3:27:38 PM PDT by x
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To: C19fan

Humorless and too long...sounds like life under a second Obama term.


38 posted on 07/16/2012 3:55:31 PM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: C19fan
The bad news is that it lasts two hours 45 minutes, which is astonishingly bloated – and unforgivable in a film that spends a long, ponderous hour getting started.

Hm. So, in other words, it's more or less like Nolan's two other Batman movies, which both managed not to suck, despite starting slowly before building momentum.

Personally, I'm disappointed he killed off Harvey Dent in the last film. He made for an interesting character, and could have been the principal villain in the third.

39 posted on 07/16/2012 4:18:12 PM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: discostu

‘Humorless and too long’ sounds like a good description of Nolan’s films in general. Especially the self important Batman films he’s made. They’re tricked out with as much cheap cynicism as he can muster to convince the 15 year olds in the audience that they’re watching something serious.


40 posted on 07/16/2012 8:54:15 PM PDT by Borges
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