Researchers find evidence of ritual use of ‘black drink’ at Cahokia

Heritage Daily ^ | 8-7-2012

[zot]

Thanks for the ping. Very interesting.

And I didn’t know that the people in Chaco Canyon NM drank liquid chocolate which doesn’t grow anywhere near there.

[muawiyah]

The vomiting has nothing to do with the tea. That comes from the emitics taken in the ceremony ~ including, no doubt, peyote freshly imported to Cahokia from West Texas ~ the very center of that cactus is currently occupied by the FLDS.

The tea is simply a tea, and the plant was misnamed due to a misunderstanding of the botonists.

[SunkenCiv]

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[bert]

———Cahokia was ultimately a failed experiment.-——

Cahokia existed longer than America has as a nation.

Cahokia is located smack dab in the middle of the country and is on the way to everywhere.

I was there last October and wish I cold have stayed much longer. When you see the exhibits in the museum and the massive earthen structures and the Woodhenge and grasp the shear size...... you will be amazed. Cahokia was larger and more populous than London and some other European cities at the time.

You should make an effort and reserve a day or so to go to Cahokia on the way somewhere else. there is a strong likelyhood that the Indians who lived near you traded with those at Cahokia. The influence was pervasive

[Renfield]

On our recent trip to England, we were in a group with a very nice couple who live just a few miles from Cahokia, and invited us up. We’ll go some time.

[muawiyah]

Cahokia didn't actually fail. The Indians in the immediate vicinity were among the first in the Americas to take to the horse. They then conquered the Great Plains ~ which the masses of buffalo had earlier made quite chancy for permanent human habitation.

That round feather contraption Cherokee and other Indian dancers wear on their behinds is called, in a variety of languages, a "Butterfly", and frequently it's called a "cho", a very specific term in many East Asian languages meaning "Butterfly".

It's the Cherokee and affiliated tribes who brought the horse East to Oklahoma and Cahokia ~ their tradition is a group said "Let's move ~ not enough game. So, they had a horse. The message came to the tribe ~ probably through their shaman ~ "Cut the horse loose" so they did and followed him to roughly Tulsa. From there they moved out everywhere else.

The arrival of the horse in Mid-America changed the lifestyle required of human beings to survive. They no longer had to grow corn. I've always suspected the Cherokee picked up the term "Cho" in Cahokia.

[blam]

I have one of these Holly trees in my yard.

Wonder how to make tea?

Yaupon Holly Tea Preparation

[1010RD]

That would fit a pattern. I wonder if human history and civilizations go back much farther than what we’ve found so far?

[Bernard Marx]

I don’t consider vomiting, extreme sweating and diarrhea to be a very “fair trade” just for a caffeine buzz.

I guess you didn't read the article. It wasn't for a caffeine buzz, it was a bodily purification ceremony. They knew exactly what they were doing.

[Billthedrill]

You got some ‘splainin’ to do, bud.

[newheart]

Well, there you have it. I can read. But perhaps I am just of a different opinion. One man's vomiting, sweating and diarrhea is another man's purification ceremony. Whatever floats your boat.

[Darksheare]

I swear it wasn’t me and I have never messed with the semi-linear-almost-never-altered flow of time.

[BenLurkin]

For some reason that kind of “swirl” pattern was a favorite of pre-historic artists world wide.

[Billthedrill]

Those are your fingerprints on that pottery vessel. ‘Fess up.

[Darksheare]

I deny the involvment of coffee zombies in the destruction of any ancient cultures.

[Ramius]

How did I live to be fifty, even having been fairly well educated and traveled almost the whole of the continent... And never even -once- hear of a place called Cahokia?

[Ditter]

I have Yaupon growing all over my yard, some bushes have berries, some do not.

[muawiyah]

no idea ~ but you must not be from the Midwest!

[mware]

I'm from South Jersey, and we have just the opposite of you.

A bumper crop of chokeberries, wild grapes including goosegrapes, wild cherry, huckleberries, teaberries, mushrooms and persimmons.

[mware]

Actually I have read that the bark of the chokeberry bush was used by native americans to treat diarrhea.