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When did the first law against felons owning guns first appear?
self curiosity | August 30, 2012 | knarf

Posted on 08/30/2012 4:39:43 AM PDT by knarf

I was thinking about the law that allows some felons to vote and some could not, depending on the state ...


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KEYWORDS: felon; gun; ownership
.. and I wondered also about the gun issue.

If a felon with a gun violation could vote in some states, why couldn't a felon WITHOUT a gun violation NOT vote in others.

I couldn't reconcile these thoughts (outside of states rights), and then I wondered ...

WHEN did the law that prevented a felon from owning a gun first appear on the books ... and why.

I really tried to research and find this answer, but I apparently don't know the correct reference word or it is something that just ... appears.

Can anyone shed some light on this

Thanx

1 posted on 08/30/2012 4:39:51 AM PDT by knarf
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To: knarf

That would be the Gun Control Act of 1968 (Public Law 90-618).

Signed by President Johnson on 22 October 1968.

It prohibited convicted felons from purchasing or possessing firearms


2 posted on 08/30/2012 4:55:07 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: knarf

IIRC the gun control act of 1968 made it illegal for felons to own guns. I’m not sure, but it is a place to start.


3 posted on 08/30/2012 4:55:42 AM PDT by rgboomers (This space purposely left blank)
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To: knarf

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91942478

US GUN LAWS: A HISTORY

Semper Guns!
*****


4 posted on 08/30/2012 5:03:00 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: knarf

As far as I’m concerned any man not in prison should be able to own a gun.


5 posted on 08/30/2012 5:11:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Short sheeting the ladies?

Just kidding, I get your point.


6 posted on 08/30/2012 5:58:53 AM PDT by enraged
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To: cripplecreek

Even criminals with prior weapons charges?


7 posted on 08/30/2012 6:37:41 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: knarf

Google “Felony disenfranchisement” Goes back to ancient times.
In America a “Governors Pardon” would be given after many years(varied) of “good conduct”


8 posted on 08/30/2012 6:39:06 AM PDT by capt B
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To: moonshot925

“That would be the Gun Control Act of 1968 (Public Law 90-618). Signed by President Johnson on 22 October 1968.”

It was also a dead bill until once certain Charlton Heston and the NRA pushed for it. That’s right, we can thank the NRA and Charlton Heston for pushing through the 1968 GCA.


9 posted on 08/30/2012 6:49:12 AM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: stuartcr

Yes. If they’re dangerous they should be in prison.


10 posted on 08/30/2012 6:56:47 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: CodeToad
It was also a dead bill until once certain Charlton Heston and the NRA pushed for it.

This is an interesting posit. I know Wikepedia is a sketchy reference at best, but it states, about Charlston:

In the 1950s and 1960s he was one of a handful of Hollywood actors to speak openly against racism and was an active supporter of the Civil Rights Movement. Initially a moderate Democrat, he later supported conservative Republican policies and was president of the National Rifle Association from 1998 to 2003.

Without further explanation on your part, what you stated seems dubious.

11 posted on 08/30/2012 7:03:19 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: CodeToad

After further review of the Wikepedia site, what you stated appears to be true. Apologies.


12 posted on 08/30/2012 7:07:20 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: stuartcr

“Even criminals with prior weapons charges?”

The law doesn’t make distinctions between what kind of felony. That’s why it is in my opinion, a crock of s—t.

So, that argument is a classic straw man.

One more time for those that don’t know. A felony is a law for which the penalty can be one year in jail or longer. Doesn’t mean you have to serve one year in jail. 500 fine? no guns or vote. 30 days and 1000 dollars. no gun. Suspended sentence and probation. no guns. Etc. etc.

Just a gun grab and a means of controlling the populace. That’s it and that’s all.


13 posted on 08/30/2012 7:13:51 AM PDT by saleman (!!!!)
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To: stuartcr
Even criminals with prior weapons charges?

Are they allowed to own knives? Baseball bats? Gasoline and matches? Cars? Ropes? Archery equipment?

14 posted on 08/30/2012 7:45:46 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Are they allowed to own knives? Baseball bats? Gasoline and matches? Cars? Ropes? Archery equipment?

It all boils down to a very simple question. Is the right to self defense a natural God-given right or not? If it is, then they shouldn't be debarred the posession of arms as long as they are not in physical custody/control/protection of the state.

15 posted on 08/30/2012 8:03:09 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: moonshot925

***Signed by President Johnson on 22 October 1968.***

With these words! “TODAY we make America safe by taking guns out of the hands of criminals!”-LBJ

I knew a man who committed a felony back in 1939. (leaving the scene of an accident that was not his fault).

He got TEN YEARS in prison, released in three years if he would join the military. He did and was issued a M1 rifle, collected many handguns from the Germans, returned to the US and never did anything wrong again.

In 1968 LBJ made it illegal for him to own a gun.


16 posted on 08/30/2012 8:20:31 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tyrannies demand immense sacrifices of their people to produce trifles.-Marquis de Custine)
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To: stuartcr

Shall not be infringed does not have a caveat for criminals. It was that way for about two hundred years.


17 posted on 08/30/2012 8:25:13 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: CodeToad
***It was also a dead bill until once certain Charlton Heston and the NRA pushed for it.****

I lived at that time, the bill was NOT DEAD! It was worse. The NRA managed to prevent real registration with an alternative that was modified so only very small European handguns and army surplus rifles were banned.

If the NRA had not done this we would have a draconian gun registration system in which most firearms would be banned by now.

If you did not live at that time you will never know the hell gun owners had been going through after the death of JFK and Bobby.

The MSM had primed the US mind for gun control and when Bobby got shot they went berzerk with false claims against comic books, TV shows, Movies, the Vietnam war, conservatism, toy guns.

The reason we have a movie rating now is because of “self policing” by the movie industry which basically did nothing but throw off constraints and give us more blood and explicit sex than was ever shown up through 1968.

18 posted on 08/30/2012 8:32:51 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tyrannies demand immense sacrifices of their people to produce trifles.-Marquis de Custine)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Your memory doesn’t serve you very well. The bill had trouble getting passed, having failed at least twice before. If Charlton Heston had not pushd as he had the bill would have died.


19 posted on 08/30/2012 8:42:14 AM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: saleman

OK, understand, thanks


20 posted on 08/31/2012 7:41:58 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: DuncanWaring

Please see my #20


21 posted on 08/31/2012 7:43:36 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Ratman83

Please see my #20


22 posted on 08/31/2012 7:44:08 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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