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Rape charges against high school players divide football town of Steubenville, Ohio
Cleveland Plain Dealer ^ | 9-2-12 | Rachel Dissell

Posted on 09/04/2012 2:08:23 PM PDT by trailhkr1

STEUBENVILLE, Ohio -- It’s Monday, and ominous-looking clouds are pushing over Harding Stadium as dozens of football players in practice jerseys prepare to take on Cleveland’s Benedictine Bengals.

But this day two key players are missing from the field.

(Excerpt) Read more at cleveland.com ...


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: barbarians; cellphonecamera; clintonlegacy; football; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; ohio; rape; steubenville
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-16 year old girl is drugged at party-goes unconscious

-football team members(up to 6-8 allegedly), nicknamed themselves "The Bangers", record entire incident on video including team members carrying her out by her ankles and wrist and putting her on back of trunk of car and taking her to a secluded spot.

-Allegedly rape her

-afterwards urinate on her

-post entire video on Youtube and Facebook under the title "The Song of the Night Is Rape"

-Video goes viral among students

-2 students arrested so far

-Tweets of "rape" also go viral. Worst nasty comments about the night you can imagine. One student tweets of unconscious girl how she can sleep "while getting a wang up the butthole" and other students talk about the "rape"

-Tweets saved at prinnified.com (local woman saves all the info and is reporting of the alleged crime)

-Story finally getting some traction as it happened in April.

-2nd 14 year old girl comes forward today announcing she was also raped though did not name suspects and police not saying it is related or not.

1 posted on 09/04/2012 2:08:28 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1
Some other tweets..what is wrong with these kids??? Zero conscious

After the arrests a Steubenville student Tweeted to one of the arrested teens, "f - - - em bro. i got ur back man. Someone took s - - - to far."

Yet another football player opined, "Were not gonna let dumb s - - - like this mess up our state championship goal."

2 posted on 09/04/2012 2:12:37 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1

Let me guess; the football players are Eric Holder’s people, and the victim is not.


3 posted on 09/04/2012 2:16:10 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah; TSgt; brytlea; Marie
moral absolutes ping.

Looks like the community here (with some exceptions) is a bit better than happy valley about recognizing a limit on the value of football ambitions.

4 posted on 09/04/2012 2:19:00 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Let me guess; the football players are Eric Holder’s people, and the victim is not.

Actually only one is black. I grew up near this area and have some inside info as do most people in my area-everyone knows what is happened.. the shiite is gonna hit the fan..

5 posted on 09/04/2012 2:19:42 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1

My parents would have shot them!

6 posted on 09/04/2012 2:20:22 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

I’m all for public hangings.


7 posted on 09/04/2012 2:22:43 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: trailhkr1

Didn’t this happen during a drinking party at one of the coaches’ houses?


8 posted on 09/04/2012 2:23:17 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: trailhkr1
From Wikipedia page for Steubinville OH:

Political corruption

Steubenville has had a reputation for political corruption. The U.S. Department of Justice alleged that the city and police force had subjected numerous individuals to "excessive force, false arrests, charges, and reports" and had engaged in practices regarding "improper stops, searches, and seizures." The report from the Department also stated that excessive force was levied against individuals who witnessed incidents of police misconduct, and against those who were known critics of the city and its police force. Those individuals were also falsely detained if the city and the police agreed that they were "likely to complain of abuse." It also stated that the officers involved also falsified reports and tampered with official police recorders so that "misconduct would not be recorded.

Over a period of 20 years the city lost, or settled out of court, 48 civil rights lawsuits involving its police force. The city paid out more than $800,000, $400,000 of which was between 1990 and 1996. As a result, the city's police force became the second city in the United States to sign a consent decree with the federal government due to an excessive number of civil rights lawsuits. The decree was signed on September 4, 1997 under the "pattern or practice" provision. Under this agreement, the city agreed to improve the training of its police officers, implement new guidelines and procedures, establish an internal affairs unit, and establish an "early warning system."

Politics

The current political make-up of Steubenville is largely Democratic and an above-average number of registered Independents. There are six Democrats for every one Republican in Steubenville.

The City of Steubenville is part of the 6th Congressional district of Ohio and represented by Bill Johnson. The 6th district is the longest US House district in Ohio and runs along the southeast state borders of Ohio.

Representative Johnson is a Republican.

9 posted on 09/04/2012 2:23:23 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: trailhkr1

If true, that should be the end of football at Steubenville.


10 posted on 09/04/2012 2:24:41 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: MrEdd
Trent Mays and Ma’lik Richmond, both 16-year-old students at Steubenville High School in Ohio, each face one charge of rape and one charge of kidnapping. Mays is also accused of taking a nude photo or video of the victim, reported the Herald Star Online.

Charged: Ma¿lik Richmond, pictured, and Trent Mays, both 16-year-old students at Ohio's Steubenville High School, each face one charge of rape and one charge of kidnapping. They allegedly attacked a 16-year-old girl at a party

11 posted on 09/04/2012 2:25:26 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: trailhkr1

If I was the parent of a player, my kid would be quitting the team! They shouldn’t even be taking the field until everyone who knows anything this cooperates with the police. I wouldn’t let my kid be part of a team that is okay with players who had anything to do with this being part of the team.


12 posted on 09/04/2012 2:27:31 PM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: Jedidah
Didn’t this happen during a drinking party at one of the coaches’ houses?

yeppers (allegedly lol)...as I said I know people in the area and they are relaying info to me..small town, everyone knows everyone else, knows all the names. Lot of info not being reported yet.

13 posted on 09/04/2012 2:28:56 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yes, Wolf Blitzer, Rachel Maddow and Brian Williams “missed” this story as they still were holding candles at Trayvon Martin’s vigil.

It doesn’t fit the MSM PC victim narrative, so no Holder, Perez, Nappy or NYT coverage.....


14 posted on 09/04/2012 2:30:19 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers.....)
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To: trailhkr1

15 posted on 09/04/2012 2:30:45 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Steely Tom

Aw, Steubenville, childhood home of Dean Martin. Sigh!!


16 posted on 09/04/2012 2:31:23 PM PDT by Catsrus
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To: wac3rd
Yes, Wolf Blitzer, Rachel Maddow and Brian Williams “missed” this story as they still were holding candles at Trayvon Martin’s vigil.

Only one of the alleged perps is black...the rest are white.

17 posted on 09/04/2012 2:32:38 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1

Hubby was telling me about this the other day.... the version he heard was quite different and while vile, not nearly as vile as this. Changes my perspective on it quite a bit.


18 posted on 09/04/2012 2:36:27 PM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: trailhkr1

Eh, what do you expect will happen when you combine alcohol, teenage hormones and girls that have no sense whatsoever. Who would have thought a girl going alone to this kind of unsupervised party may have something bad happen to her? Where was the father of this young woman? Most likely long since divorced and alienated from her and in no position to lay down the law, or for those boys/young men, where were their fathers teaching them right from wrong?

Sad to say but this will only get worse as the family continues to break down under the joke of a system called family court. Kids raised by single mothers ultimately end up having no respect for either women or the law. How many of these types of crimes have we seen in the past few years? Expect to see more as the family continues to breakdown and fathers are sidelined in the raising of their children.


19 posted on 09/04/2012 2:40:27 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: trapped_in_LA
Where was the father of this young woman? Most likely long since divorced and alienated from her and in no position to lay down the law, or for those boys/young men, where were their fathers teaching them right from wrong?

Not in this case. Her parents are not divorced and her dad took her to the local hospital when she was brought home.

20 posted on 09/04/2012 2:43:13 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Catsrus
Aw, Steubenville, childhood home of Dean Martin.

And Traci Lords.

21 posted on 09/04/2012 2:44:57 PM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: trapped_in_LA

Teen age drinking-——————Dumb
Rape—————————————Stupid
Taking photo’s————————More stupid
Posting them on Utube-————Out of their friggin minds

This is what we are trying to educate these days?

This is what we are pissing money away to keep in schools?


22 posted on 09/04/2012 2:49:21 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer; trapped_in_LA
This is what we are pissing money away to keep in schools?

The girl in question goes to the local Catholic HS. This stuff is happening at all schools. Society is decaying.

23 posted on 09/04/2012 2:58:55 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trapped_in_LA

I was drunk around teenage girls back in the day. My parents were divorced. I didn’t participate in any gang rapes at parties.


24 posted on 09/04/2012 3:02:26 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: trailhkr1
Trailhkr1 -

Must suck having to cleanup all the ignorant statements some on this board jump to conclusions to make. Keep up the good work. I don't envy you.

25 posted on 09/04/2012 3:07:21 PM PDT by onceone (0311, K Co., 3/5 1st Mar Div, RVN '68)
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To: trailhkr1
Some other tweets..what is wrong with these kids??? Zero conscious

It's not just the kids, it's the parents who are circling the wagons around the rapists, the coach and the team........

26 posted on 09/04/2012 3:07:40 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: EEGator
+1
27 posted on 09/04/2012 3:08:30 PM PDT by tomkat (:-)
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To: trailhkr1

We don’t know that the victim was even drinking. She could have had a coke with something in it (GHB or similar) and passed out without having done anything wrong.

We do know that the guy videotaping the event was producing child pornography, and that the guys having sex with a girl who was unresponsive were (1) disgusting, and (2) rapists. I hope all the rapists will be identified, prosecuted as adults, and given long sentences. As a parent of girls, this disgusts and angers me - children should be safe. As a parent of boys, this disgusts me with the boys involved and angers me with their parents - children should be taught to behave decently and respectfully.


28 posted on 09/04/2012 3:11:33 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: workerbee
the version he heard was quite different and while vile, not nearly as vile as this.

So, how "not nearly as vile" makes sex with a drugged 16 year old any less vile?

At this point, I'm no longer focused on the perps but rather the townspeople, the school administration and most importantly, the coach of the football team who are refusing to take the appropriate action.....

29 posted on 09/04/2012 3:12:45 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: Hot Tabasco

“So, how “not nearly as vile” makes sex with a drugged 16 year old any less vile?”

Well, I have it on good authority (Whoopi Goldberg) that Roman Polanksi’s having sex with a drugged 13-year old is not really “rape-rape” http://www.lvrj.com/blogs/sherm/Rape-rape_and_legitimate_rape.html So I guess it just depends on who you are and who you’re with etc.......


30 posted on 09/04/2012 3:27:14 PM PDT by DrC
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To: trailhkr1

John Adams said, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” If that is true, judging by current and even accelerating cultural shifts, we might already have passed the point of no return.

The prudent American will trim his sails accordingly.


31 posted on 09/04/2012 3:28:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: trailhkr1

It’s common knowledge how children often feel invincible. Add hormones to that and you have a recipe for disaster. These kinds of things happen when you elevate childish young men to the status of gods.


32 posted on 09/04/2012 3:29:44 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: EEGator
I was drunk around teenage girls back in the day. My parents were divorced. I didn’t participate in any gang rapes at parties.

Thank you for mentioning that!

"Hello???" (to those who semi-excuse this type of atrocity.)

33 posted on 09/04/2012 3:34:07 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: servo1969

Children had raging hormones and got drunk 100 years ago, 50 years ago, and 25 years ago. Young athletes were always elevated beyond all reason. But I don’t recall this kind of cold, proud, conscienceless gang raping, including bragging and videos.

That is a new thing. And very evil, portending much worse.


34 posted on 09/04/2012 3:39:51 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: trailhkr1

This is a terrible thing no matter who fault it is.


35 posted on 09/04/2012 3:49:43 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: trailhkr1

I could not imagine growing up when everybody had a video camera in their pocket and an inane desire to post to YouTube. A smartphone describes the phone not the owner.


36 posted on 09/04/2012 3:55:00 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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To: Travis McGee

It’s ridiculous scapegoating. I expect these “boys” to act like civilized humans, not savages.

P.S. I can’t believe not one person did or said anything. It blows my mind.


37 posted on 09/04/2012 4:01:36 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Let’s just say I know these guys on an “educational level.” Only one of the seven is black. All others are white, middle class students in the school’s university scholars program. They all have either old money names or new money names. These are what would be considered “good kids.” in fact, at the schools web site you can see many of the alleged seven in the academic awards banquet pics. Two are in jail but five more are on deep crap.what is becoming a possibility is that we have a little gang of serial rapists. The house of cards might really topple if/when it is discovered that adults knew about it.


38 posted on 09/04/2012 4:07:20 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Hot Tabasco; DrC

There was no drugging of the girl in the version he heard, nor penetration. Bascially it was a case of drunk kids and some naughty pictures.

We have 4 daughters. Believe me, we are not prone to be “lenient” when it comes to rape.


39 posted on 09/04/2012 4:07:44 PM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: Venturer
Posting them on Utube

I'm familiar with Youtube but I've never heard of Utube.

40 posted on 09/04/2012 4:09:40 PM PDT by Isabel C.
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To: goodwithagun

**Correction: One of the boys not in jail is a recent graduate. It is my understanding that OSU yanked his full academic ride.


41 posted on 09/04/2012 4:13:47 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: workerbee

Unfortunately the video showed otherwise, plus there is this lovely Tweet: You don’t sleep through a wang in the butt. In addition, there was enough evidence of rape to arrest and charge two of the boys. The pic of them holding her is disgusting. I don’t know how she wasn’t drugged because never in my life have I seen somebody that drunk. She in fact looked dead, which is why she is referred to in many Tweets as “the dead body.”


42 posted on 09/04/2012 4:20:31 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

Yes, clearly what hubby heard was not even close to the full story. Disgusting.


43 posted on 09/04/2012 4:29:00 PM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: trapped_in_LA
Who would have thought a girl going alone to this kind of unsupervised party

Can your stupid cr@p.

The girl was at a party at one of the coaches homes, not some unsupervised romp out at the river. There was supposed to be supervision when she went.

44 posted on 09/04/2012 4:34:45 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: trapped_in_LA

“Kids raised by single mothers ultimately end up having no respect for either women or the law.”


My brother and I were raised from pre-school age by a single mother.

Our father died at age 31.

Don’t paint with such a broad brush.

.


45 posted on 09/04/2012 4:41:18 PM PDT by Mears
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To: goodwithagun
**Correction: One of the boys not in jail is a recent graduate. It is my understanding that OSU yanked his full academic ride.

The latest I heard is the prosecutor is trying to get all these guys tried as adults..good.

And yes, this is also about old money/new money why this story was covered under the rug for so long.

How many people have seen the video/pics? I have heard quite a bit..it was around for a while.

46 posted on 09/04/2012 4:44:38 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: workerbee
There was no drugging of the girl in the version he heard, nor penetration. Bascially it was a case of drunk kids and some naughty pictures.

uuum no..to all 3...but yes on drunk athletes.

47 posted on 09/04/2012 4:47:25 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: workerbee
Bascially it was a case of drunk kids and some naughty pictures.

Despite the tweeted pics and the youtube video which has since been pulled, if you want to believe it was just some naughty photos and drunk kids then I'm not going to argue with you........

48 posted on 09/04/2012 4:50:26 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Please re-read #18, my original post. What are you not understanding here?

1) I never heard about this case, other than what my husband told me the other day, which as I’ve stated, differed greatly from this account.
2) I never saw any pics or videos, thank God.
3) I have acknowledged that my husband’s original account, as he heard it, was inaccurate and made the incident sound not nearly as “bad” as what apparently took place.

If you want to feel morally superior, do it somewhere else. And while you’re at it, stop attributing thoughts and judgments to me that are of your own making.


49 posted on 09/04/2012 4:56:28 PM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: EEGator

I can’t post what I’d be likely to do.


50 posted on 09/04/2012 4:56:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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