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How "Crazy Survivalists" Make The World A Better Place
Alt-Market.com ^ | 9/7/12 | Brandon Smith

Posted on 09/08/2012 7:47:53 AM PDT by Kartographer

Advantage #1: Survivalists Have Their Own Stuff – They Don’t Need Your Stuff
Advantage #2: Survivalists Keep To Themselves – Your Business Is Your Own
Advantage #3: Survivalists Are Handy
Advantage #4: Survivalists Insulate A Region
Advantage #5: Survivalists Cook Up A Mean Barbeque
Advantage #6: Survivalists Stand Their Ground When It Counts
Advantage #7: Survivalists Are Time Capsules For Liberty
Advantage #8: Survivalists Are Not Afraid To Remind Society Of Its Mistakes

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: preparedness; preppers
I have always pointed out that in times of disasters preppers are a big plus. Preppers are least likely need to draw on what ever limited resources their maybe after a disaster and are in fact are the ones most like to argument those limited resources. Every prepper family removes themselves from the potential pool of victims needing help and support from first responders and thus actually increases the number of people that can be helped.
1 posted on 09/08/2012 7:47:59 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 09/08/2012 7:50:31 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I am definitely #5!


3 posted on 09/08/2012 8:02:35 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (Obama A man without an American mission.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

It isn’t as mean if you kill it before you grill it.


4 posted on 09/08/2012 8:13:50 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Kartographer

Approaching the idea of survivalism from a different perspective, that of psychology, I have what *should* be a “classical” psychological study (but isn’t, at least officially), called “The U.F.O. Test”.

Take a group of average Americans and put them in a lecture room, somewhat removed from the daily ebb and flow of people. Then someone who “looks official”, wearing a military uniform or a lab coat, gives them a “briefing”.

He tells them that the government has learned that alien spacecraft are approaching Earth and should be here soon. He has some astronomy pictures which he tells them show the aliens ships at a great distance. And the government “wants their opinions” as to what they should do about it.

Then they are given an opinion survey.

However, this is a false front. Among them are people are psychologists who look like ordinary people, who will just talk to them, to find out what they “really think”.

So what are the expected results of this?

1) There will be small numbers who go absolutely bonkers. That is, who assign superhuman or religious abilities to the aliens as angels or demons. Some would want to commit suicide or go on a rampage.
2) The next largest groups will be those who want to be completely friendly to the aliens, and those who want to kill them as soon as they arrive.
3) The largest group, though, plan to do nothing negative or positive, and “go inert”, waiting to see what the aliens will do. That is, they will stop leading their ordinary lives, not go to work, or do much anything else. At a national level this would be disastrous, as almost our entire economy would shut down.

4) But the smallest group would likely be the survivalists.

That is, good or bad, while watchfully waiting to see what the aliens actually did, they would continue to do what they had been doing, after making some adjustments to their routines.

Likely, no matter *what* the aliens did, they would be the first to realize that what everyone else is doing is *causing* a disaster. That unless they went back to work, doing the ordinary things they used to do, it could cause an incredible disaster, even threaten our civilization.

(In conclusion, the hardest part of this psychological test is to insure that none of the test subjects could be allowed to leave until they were absolutely convinced that it was just a hoax, a fake, that no aliens are coming. Some people could suffer a mental breakdown, or need tranquilizers, or become extremely dangerous to themselves or others. However, knowing the results of this test would be invaluable in national disaster preparedness.)


5 posted on 09/08/2012 8:21:32 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: Kartographer

I’m going out to work in my prepper garden, pick some vegetables. I compiled a useful reference book if anyone is interested.
http:www.futurnamics.com/garden.php


6 posted on 09/08/2012 8:49:02 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Kartographer

That is my point; that one has a moral obligation to prepare for a disaster. If people are prepared, then the emergency responders can concentrate on the genuinely unfortunate rather than having to take care of the unprepared.

There simply is no one so poor that they can’t have three days worth of water on hand, some TP a few plastic bags and such.


7 posted on 09/08/2012 9:24:07 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Has anyone told you that you are weird? And somewhat disturbing? ;)

Not that there is anything wrong with that... some of us are thinking about forming a club....

/johnny

8 posted on 09/08/2012 9:32:53 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: RedStateRocker
Problem is that most non-preppers, not armed with the proper mind-set, have resources that they don't recognize.

During the potato famine, some families starved with maize in the barn. You see, it was animal food.

/johnny

9 posted on 09/08/2012 9:35:33 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer
Advantage #13: Preppers keep things neat and tidy.

As in: "HEY! YOU! ZOMBIE! GET OFF MY LAWN!"

Don't forget to pick up plastic shotgun waddings after clearing the front lawn.

/johnny

10 posted on 09/08/2012 9:37:52 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I keep things neat and tiday so I can find my ammo - is that what you mean?


11 posted on 09/08/2012 10:06:44 AM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I keep things neat and tidy so I can find my ammo - is that what you mean?


12 posted on 09/08/2012 10:07:21 AM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Marcella
I'm not sure that I could NOT find ammo. When I vacuum(not often, catz hate it) I check the floor for .22LR. The vacuum cleaner makes a heck of a noise when it eats one.

If you don't trip over ammo, or have at least a partial box of .22LR in the silverware drawer, you don't have enough. ;)

/johnny

13 posted on 09/08/2012 10:10:33 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I imagine a lot of people think preppers are weird. However, if you think about it, a big part of *not* being caught unprepared is thinking “outside the box”.

I actually based that “UFO Test” idea on a historical event, of how a society basically destroyed itself because its agreed upon reality was fractured by something from outside the system.

In that case, the powerful Aztec empire was wiped out because the Conquistadors were so alien to their way of thinking that it fractured their understanding of reality itself. By the time the European plagues hit, their empire had already collapsed.

The similarities to space aliens are bizarre. The Spanish ships, utterly alien things, were reported to have come from out of the Sun (arriving from the East at the end of the day), and from them disembarked tall creatures with six legs and shiny skin (Conquistadors on horseback wearing armor). This is what the runners from the coast reported to their capital city.

And they just happened to arrive on the first day of the “month of Corn”, which was when a possible apocalypse was supposed to happen. Importantly, the empires of Mesoamerica were surrounded by the ruins of the empires that had come and gone before them, so “the end of the world” was a very tangible thing to them.

The Conquistadors placed their king under control, and their religious and military organizations had no idea what to do for weeks.

And the typical Aztec-on-the-street had no idea what to do either, so did nothing until they were told what to do.

Pretty soon they figured out the Conquistadors were not gods, and drove them out, but their zeitgeist had been shattered. Many likely just “went inert”, until the plagues hit and killed the vast majority.


14 posted on 09/08/2012 10:28:13 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
$phrase = "were so alien to their way of thinking that it fractured their understanding of reality itself.";

@weird_events = ('Conquistadors','Nazis','Progressives');

foreach $event(@weird_events)

{

print "$weird, $phrase \n";

}

Your analysis is valid over many historical events.

Doesn't stop you from being 'strange'. ;)

/johnny

15 posted on 09/08/2012 10:42:48 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

You mean we can’t grill up an alien or two to feed to the dog? If the dog was fine 48 hours later, I was thinking of a inviting you over for a bbq. Anyone know if aliens taste like chicken?


16 posted on 09/08/2012 10:42:56 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill
Only chicken tastes like chicken.

I am available for consultation on any BBQ that may occur. I can do recipes and logistics.

Will cook for beer. Have knives, will travel.

/johnny

17 posted on 09/08/2012 10:46:36 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Problem is that most non-preppers, not armed with the proper mind-set, have resources that they don't recognize.

Bingo! When spring cleaning, you'd be amazed at how many forgotten items or things you would normally toss can be placed in the prepping area.

18 posted on 09/08/2012 10:50:13 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Kartographer
would you rather have me as a neighbor, with my guns, ammo, food supply, off-grid solar power and water, and anti-establishment angst, or, would you rather have some superficial sickly fake friendly suburban yuppie with a Mercedes, an overpriced boat, a $100,000-plus debt obligation, a repressed inferiority complex, a vicious department store-addicted trophy wife, three spoiled crusty children with a vocabulary of 80 words or less, and an empty pantry? In a crisis, who is the real threat?

That describes all the rich city liberals who have invaded this neighborhood. Just yesterday, the yard man confirmed my opinion of the ones next door as having no common sense. I'd much rather have their elderly yard man than them living next door in a crisis.

19 posted on 09/08/2012 10:59:00 AM PDT by bgill
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To: JRandomFreeper

Ok, folks, first alien invasion, JR is doing the bbq!


20 posted on 09/08/2012 11:01:11 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill
I exist only to serve. You want fries with that?

/johnny

21 posted on 09/08/2012 11:05:08 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: bgill

Remember that TV series where the aliens had lizard skin? Johnny will have to skin mine - I’m not eating lizard skin.


22 posted on 09/08/2012 11:06:42 AM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Marcella
Crispy fried dinosaur skin (aka chicken skin) is good eats.

I just won't tell you where the cracklins came from. ;)

/johnny

23 posted on 09/08/2012 11:20:03 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

24 posted on 09/08/2012 11:23:25 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: dfwgator
Certainly a classic. Notice how Alice leaves the coffee pot almost empty.

/johnny

25 posted on 09/08/2012 11:26:45 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“I just won’t tell you where the cracklins came from. ;)”

I’m so old, I know what cracklins are - and I don’t want any.


26 posted on 09/08/2012 11:44:35 AM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“I just won’t tell you where the cracklins came from. ;)”

I’m so old, I know what cracklins are - and I don’t want any.


27 posted on 09/08/2012 11:45:50 AM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: JRandomFreeper
During the potato famine, some families starved with maize in the barn. You see, it was animal food.

Yeah....I know.

Some co-workers and I were getting ready to cook on our little grill out in the parking lot of our hotel....when I noticed we were out of lighter fluid.

When I saw two of them decide lacquer thinner was the way to go...I shuddered in the thought for a second of spending the night at the ER with whichever one suffered the worst burns....then I cracked wise about their manhood and their "countryboy" personas. Then I went over to the big pile of small limbs that had obviously been sitting there long enough to be a fire hazard...right behind the hotel dumpster.

They had no clue how or what I was doing. Instead of watching and learning...they made snide comments like..."I don't want ash in my food"..."I don't wanna taste privot limbs in my food".

I stacked a tee pee of limbs with a few bricks of charcoal...and lit it. After the limbs burnt down...and the starter bricks were goin..I added the rest of the charcoal needed.

Bout 20 minutes later...with the red hot glowing coals goin...I said y'all cookin. Never got a thank ya or nothin.;)

Then there's this bud of mine who has stockpiled his house...which is indefensible..and plans to gut it out there. He gets upset with me when I explain what force ratio is required to defend a fixed position...no matter how many firearms or ammo stash he has.

Me....I live about 50 miles east of Talledega National forest....and 20 minutes west of downtown Atlanta. There are several different mountains there that have caves...fresh clean water flow...plenty of edible roots...plants..etc and I have a small book packed that identifies them...and more wild hogs than I can eat in a lifetime.

I can get there from home and never touch asphalt. I'll have those spots to myself. I'm good. :)

28 posted on 09/08/2012 12:03:58 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Dave Mustaine for president.)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
When I saw two of them decide lacquer thinner was the way to go...I shuddered in the thought for a second of spending the night at the ER with whichever one suffered the worst burns

A teachable moment, wasted, through compassion. ;)

Daughter: "You were going to let him do that?!?"

Me: "He would have learned a lesson."

Daughter: "He's your grandson, it could have killed him!"

Me: "You have extras, we don't need the dumb ones."

I lived through that kind of training... I figure my grandkids can, too. ;)

/johnny

29 posted on 09/08/2012 12:10:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Blessed are the cracked, for it is they who let in the light.”

:)


30 posted on 09/08/2012 12:19:21 PM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

LOLOL!

Naw...I let them try....and fail...over an over until they gave up. :)

I got a 23 yo daughter...and two grandbabies. Chloe is three and the boy turned two today.

We’ve had that exact conversation several times. One of those was at the shallow creek behind the house....I was also getting it from “gramma” too...right before she stepped in a hole between two rocks toes first and faceplanted...breaking all 5 toes and some foot bones.

Took me 45 gotdang minutes to get gramma up out the creek and securely sitting in the back of the blazer I had to drive down there. Gramma argued about heading right to the hospital..she had to change first.

Right when gramma slid her clean jeans on..the intense pain I knew was coming hit. The granbabies learned why it’s important to listen to grandpa...a lesson gramma hasn’t ever learned.


31 posted on 09/08/2012 12:23:59 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Dave Mustaine for president.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Yep.

Cody Lundin makes the vital point that the single most important thing in prepping is ones MIND.

All the food, tools and ammo in the world are useless unless your head is wrapped around the will and the strategies to survive.

Having a plan and the right mindset plus a little water and a leatherman beats 20 guns, 10K rounds of ammo, a hundred grand in gold and 10 years worth of food if the person so provisioned freaks out and panics.


32 posted on 09/08/2012 12:57:44 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: RedStateRocker
Drop me naked in any un-inhabited place in North America, and I'll do fine. I don't even need a leatherman (though they are nice to have). Paleolithic skill sets 101 gets you through a lot of stuff.

/johnny

33 posted on 09/08/2012 1:04:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

Hey Kart, fyi I went to the article, and tried to view the movie trailers. They would not play...got a message:

“Internet Explorer has stopped working - A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available.”

Looks like that movie trailer might be a must-see if it is cherry picked not to download....


34 posted on 09/09/2012 9:35:13 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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