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Caribbean coral reefs on verge of collapsing: study
Yahoo ^ | 9/10/12 | Ron Recinto | The Lookout

Posted on 09/10/2012 6:40:12 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Less than 10 percent of the coral reefs in the Caribbean show living coral cover and are on the verge of utter devastation, a new study reported in the Guardian states.

Global warming, pollution and overexploitation are the main causes for the damage to reefs, Carl Gustaf Lundin, a director at the International Union for Conservation of Nature, ..

"The major causes of coral decline are well-known and include overfishing, pollution, disease and bleaching caused by rising temperatures resulting from the burning of fossil fuels," Lundin said. ..

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Global warming is a big factor with coral reefs, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration points out, as more bleaching and infections break out when temperatures rise. Also more carbon dioxide in the air alters the chemistry of the oceans, and slight changes in acidity could alter the growth rates of coral.

However, ScienceDaily, in reporting the work of researchers of Australia's Great Barrier Reef, quoted Terry Hughes of James Cook University: "The good news is that, rather than experiencing wholesale destruction, many coral reefs will survive climate change by changing the mix of coral species as the ocean warms and becomes more acidic."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Outdoors; Science
KEYWORDS: caribbean; collapsing; coralreefs; verge

1 posted on 09/10/2012 6:40:17 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Guardian link

Caribbean coral reefs face collapse
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/sep/10/caribbean-coral-reefs-collapse-environment


2 posted on 09/10/2012 6:41:12 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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Here’s sand in your snorkel .. the days I remember were cloudy due to storm passing thru .. the reefs near St Johns and St. Thomas had been damaged pretty bad .. Oh well, that’s mother nature.


3 posted on 09/10/2012 6:44:27 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge
"The major causes of coral decline are well-known and include overfishing, pollution, disease and bleaching caused by rising temperatures resulting from the burning of fossil fuels," Lundin said...

Racism. He forgot to include racism.

4 posted on 09/10/2012 6:44:27 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: NormsRevenge

in the history of this planet, how many coral reefs do you imagine might have come and gone?


5 posted on 09/10/2012 6:45:37 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: NormsRevenge

I’m assuming they’re like trees. One dies and another replaces it.


6 posted on 09/10/2012 6:49:41 PM PDT by gotribe
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To: gotribe

Yes they do, but they take longer to grow than most trees.


7 posted on 09/10/2012 6:52:30 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: terycarl

GO to Russia, Perm and see the Great Permian Reef, hundreds of millions of years old, but dead.

Same for the fossil coral reef outside of Stroudsburg, PA.

They come, they go.


8 posted on 09/10/2012 6:54:24 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: NormsRevenge

No reefs, no problem.

Sucks to be a fish there. Kinda like being born in Detroit.


9 posted on 09/10/2012 6:55:43 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: NormsRevenge

***”The major causes of coral decline are well-known and include overfishing, pollution, disease and bleaching caused by rising temperatures resulting from the burning of fossil fuels,” Lundin said. .. ***

Ok, tell me how much the ocean tempurature has risen in the last 20 years, when you were decrying the total loss of the coral reefs before. One degree? Three degrees? How much variance is there in the ocean throughout that entire region? Five degrees? ten?


10 posted on 09/10/2012 6:57:42 PM PDT by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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To: gotribe

They had me until ‘Global Warming’.


11 posted on 09/10/2012 7:00:55 PM PDT by IncPen (Educating Barack Obama has been the most expensive project in human history)
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To: NormsRevenge

While the ocean gets too warm in one area, it would be getting just warm enough for coral in another area.


12 posted on 09/10/2012 7:02:07 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: NormsRevenge

IF it’s global warming then they are doomed because the environmental phonies have absolutely no plan to reduce carbon “pollution”. The rates will only increase from our commie friends in China. And this article says 90% of the coral is gone and it can’t withstand the tiniest changes.

Just saying. I’m sure the article is 75% bs, though coral reefs are fragile.


13 posted on 09/10/2012 7:08:47 PM PDT by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Most of that article is bunk.


14 posted on 09/10/2012 7:09:42 PM PDT by madison10
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To: NormsRevenge
They've been blithering about coral reef ill-health and slow 'extension rates' since the early 60's.

One study in the late 1990's said:

Our results suggest that coral growth (extension) rates alone are poor indicators of coral reef health, particularly where anthropogenic eutrophication may play a role in reef degradation. This study documented normal coral growth rates on reefs undergoing net reef erosion. (emphasis added)

That is, they grow, and decline, and then grow again. Overall, coral reefs grow and decline in rhythm not well documented by honest science these days.

15 posted on 09/10/2012 7:14:35 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Joe 6-pack

“The major causes of coral decline are well-known and include overfishing, pollution, disease and bleaching caused by rising temperatures resulting from the burning of fossil fuels,” Lundin said...
Racism. He forgot to include racism.”

And he forgot George Bush.


16 posted on 09/10/2012 7:26:45 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: NormsRevenge
Great. First there were the "Truthers." Then there were the "Birthers."

Apparently, now we have the "Reefers".

17 posted on 09/10/2012 7:30:46 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Ron C.

This isn’t about the reefs. Its about using propaganda about reefs to gain support for additional socialist controls over Americans. Oh and redistribution of wealth.


18 posted on 09/10/2012 7:37:14 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Caribbean coral reefs face collapse

*************

BS Flag_1

19 posted on 09/10/2012 7:43:52 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: NormsRevenge

“The major causes of coral decline are well-known and include overfishing, pollution, disease and bleaching caused by rising temperatures resulting from the burning of fossil fuels,”

Idiocy stated as fact. I loathe these people.

Look up in the sky on a clear day. What do you see?

It’s not difficult - at all.


20 posted on 09/10/2012 7:44:05 PM PDT by TheZMan (Obama is without a doubt the worst President ever elected to these United States)
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To: Joe 6-pack
now we have the "Reefers"

Reefer Madness!

21 posted on 09/10/2012 7:45:57 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: NormsRevenge

Yeah, whatever. And how about the Vandenberg and other ships that they sink to make artificial reefs? The fish love them. Not saying we should deliberately destroy the coral, but it’s not as big a crisis as these hair-on-fire boneheads would have us believe.


22 posted on 09/10/2012 7:48:18 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: driftdiver

LOL - Yep, another 10-20 lies every day to hoodwink the clueless.


23 posted on 09/10/2012 7:53:48 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: NormsRevenge

” - - - rising temperatures resulting from the burning of fossil fuels,” Lundin said.”

Not so. There is no known cause and effect between temperature change and the burning of any fuel. Well, unless you are roasting chestnuts, or something - - - .

Burning fuel releases CO2 which is essential for the CaCO3 in coral skeletons.

BTW, as a true-blue member of famous ‘Coral Reefs Forever Conservatory,’ my question is: “Are we producing enough CO2?”


24 posted on 09/10/2012 7:54:49 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: NormsRevenge

Vi$it the reef$ before it’$ too late.


25 posted on 09/10/2012 7:57:11 PM PDT by logitech (Who's here so vile, that will not love his country? If any speak, for him I have offended)
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To: NormsRevenge
Just a little FYI, I have had a 200 gallon coral reef tank in my home for over 10 years. My system runs 82 at night and climbs to 89 degrees by evening when the lights go off. Hard corals like the ones mentioned in the story don't seem to give a darn about the temp swing. Sooo, global warming of 1 or 2 degrees? Big whoop! I will also mention that the faster growing stag corals DO seem to go through a cycle where they can RTN (rapid tissue necrosis) almost overnight and then start growing new corals on top of the old skeleton bases. Maybe thats the way they build up 20 floor reef beds. :p

IMO the article is lying.

26 posted on 09/10/2012 8:05:43 PM PDT by Casie
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To: driftdiver
Oh and redistribution of wealth.

Right, the redistribution of wealth right into their own pockets.

27 posted on 09/10/2012 8:11:15 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: driftdiver
Nonsense!

This is all about.....

Finding NEMO!

(need I say it.../Sarc)

28 posted on 09/10/2012 9:19:48 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: gotribe

except that corals are animals, not plants ;)


29 posted on 09/10/2012 9:54:50 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: gotribe

except that corals are animals, not plants ;)


30 posted on 09/10/2012 9:56:26 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Andrei Bulba

Coral reefs are not fragile as anyone who has raised corals in their fish tank can attest. It takes a particularly poisonous soup to kill coral.
The Caribbean reef is larger than the Great Barrier Reef. It encompasses its entire body of shallow water including all of Mexico, South America and the thousands of islands at its mouth.
Like many others, I have dived many of these littoral regions. While some of Florida’s reef is dead the rest is thriving. The article is pure bunk with no basis in fact.


31 posted on 09/10/2012 10:13:25 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Global warming is a big factor with coral reefs, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration points out, as more bleaching and infections break out when temperatures rise.

And the exact same thing can be said about global cooling.

Also more carbon dioxide in the air alters the chemistry of the oceans

Only in lagoons with a few feet of water.

and slight changes in acidity could alter the growth rates of coral.

Yes. They can slow or increase their growth rates based on the acidity/alkalinity of seawater.

In other words, they have said nothing.

32 posted on 09/11/2012 3:48:51 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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