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Talk Shows Using Ridiculously High Bitrates
vanity | Spetember 10, 2012 | vanity

Posted on 09/10/2012 7:07:36 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan

I get a number of podcasts, and for some reason, the bitrates are getting ridiculous. The files are so huge, they frequently don't download completely.

Peter Boyles has been sending out his podcasts at 96kbps for years. Now they are 128kbps.

Brian Sussman: 128kbps

John Batchelor: 256kbps!!!

I've tried e-mailing the hosts and others associated with their shows. No response.

There's no reason for a talk show to use a bitrate higher than 32kbps!


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: podcasts; radio; talk

1 posted on 09/10/2012 7:07:44 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

I don’t know what that guy’s talking about but I like a show with a Higher Bit Rate download because it sounds more natural.

Imagine listening to music at a low bit rate.It would truly sound like crap.


2 posted on 09/10/2012 7:12:01 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

I listen to Rush on a 20kbps feed and even that low rate sounds fine.

mms://media.blackcrow.fm/wndb


3 posted on 09/10/2012 7:12:26 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Ping!

;-)

4 posted on 09/10/2012 7:13:50 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Arthur McGowan

Your ears are apparently no longer capable of hearing the distortion of a 32 Kbit talk show audio stream.

96 Kbits is the minimum for a good audio stream for me.

If you can’t handle more on your connection, I’m sorry. Dial-up can give only about 32-Kbit.


5 posted on 09/10/2012 7:15:11 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Arthur McGowan

You can listen through a radio state
Are you one a computer of phone? If you are using a phone, what kind?


6 posted on 09/10/2012 7:15:21 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Arthur McGowan
On the This WEEK in Tech network, the audio for podcasts is sent out using 64 kbps sampling rate MP3 encoding. The sound quality is quite good, and works great for spoken voice podcasts.
7 posted on 09/10/2012 7:19:10 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: ConservativeMind

What’s dial-up? :)


8 posted on 09/10/2012 7:21:34 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Rather than slowing down the bitrate, I would suggest they save by reducing bandwidth. I think you should be able to get by with 11 khz on a talk program. The bumper music might suffer slightly. But higher bit rates are better, at least 64K, but 128K is pretty standard for audiobooks.


9 posted on 09/10/2012 7:22:09 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I have a new zest for life!"--Calvin from Las Vegas)
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To: Arthur McGowan

What bit rate is required to equal the quality of FM radio?


10 posted on 09/10/2012 7:26:54 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

“Thus = 12 x 30,000 x 2 (2 channels) = 720Kbps (CD is 1411kbps) that is uncompressed.”

From here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/366117/radio-bitrates


11 posted on 09/10/2012 7:32:54 PM PDT by TheZMan (Obama is without a doubt the worst President ever elected to these United States)
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To: Arthur McGowan

I think you should just listen faster


12 posted on 09/10/2012 7:37:36 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Arthur McGowan

64k should be plenty good enough for talk radio.


13 posted on 09/10/2012 7:40:20 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: TheZMan

This chart shows 96 kbps for FM quality (32 kbps for AM):

http://www.wma-mp3.org/mp3-settings.html

I wonder who’s right?


14 posted on 09/10/2012 7:40:35 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Arthur McGowan

Only podcast I do is Mark Levin’s . His is 32kbps. I listen on a mp3 player with earbuds. It downloads in a minute or so 25.5 mb in length . My time Warner download speed is 8 to 11 mpbs depending on neighborhood traffic.


15 posted on 09/10/2012 7:44:51 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: Arthur McGowan

It’s a conspiracy, I tell you!


16 posted on 09/10/2012 7:47:17 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: Arthur McGowan

It’s a conspiracy, I tell you!


17 posted on 09/10/2012 7:48:22 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: Yardstick
The table below can help you estimate the kind of mp3 quality/compression and bit rates to use for your own applications. We also give you approximate file sizes to help you compare.
Format Bit rate Compression ratio File size per minute Notes
WAV uncompressed 1:1 10 MB If the wave wav file was sampled at 16 bits/44.1kHz, you've got CD quality sound
MP3 160 kbps 9:1 1.5 MB Very low compression, superior sound quality
MP3 128 kbps 11:1 1 MB The standard "CD quality" bit rate
MP3 96 kbps 15:1 700K Considered "near CD quality"
MP3 64 kbps 22:1 400K About the same quality as an FM radio station

18 posted on 09/10/2012 7:50:43 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Arthur McGowan
The reason AM works so well for talk radio is that you don't need as much bandwidth for talk as for music.
AM does not sound as good as FM, but talk is perfectly understandable on either.
I'm with Mr. McGowan, 32k should be perfectly good for talk radio, it would be nice it it was available.
Not mandatory, just available as an option.

19 posted on 09/10/2012 8:11:06 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Arthur McGowan

I’ve also tried to email Mr. Batchelor about his bitrates. They are all over the place. They’re usually 128 kbps but i’ve seen them as high as 73 megabytes per segment the odd time instead of the usual 27.5 mb’s. In my email I told hime that 32 kbps was the industry standard but I guess I was wrong. Another thing that bugs me is that they sometimes post broken podcasts where the posted file didn’t completely upload to the hosting server and is missing a major portion of the podcast. I always wondered if anybody else was pissed enough to email them. Thanks for trying.


20 posted on 09/11/2012 7:57:18 AM PDT by CanadianPete
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To: Arthur McGowan

Boyles has nothing to do with it and wouldn’t be able to tell you what kbps stands for. When it comes to technology and economics; among a lengthy litany of other topics, Peter couldn’t find his a$$ with both hands if you spotted him nine fingers.


21 posted on 09/11/2012 10:57:51 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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