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Word For The Day, Thursday, September 13, 2012 - tu quoque
WSJ | 13 September 2012 | Thursday's sub

Posted on 09/13/2012 4:13:08 AM PDT by secret garden


In order that we might all raise the level of discourse and expand our language abilities, here is the daily post of "Word for the Day".

tu quoque \ˈtü-ˈkwō-kwē, ˈtyü-, -ˈkō-\ noun, interjection
you likewise: a retort made by a person accused of a crime implying that the accuser is also guilty of the same crime

Example sentence:
We found this quote through Weigel, who thinks he has effectively answered conservative criticism of the current administration with a tu quoque. But in contrast with the Bush State Department, neither the president nor Mrs. Clinton vigorously, or even limply, defended the right of free speech.
---James Taranto, Best of the Web, WSJ, 9/12/12

Etymology:
1671, from Latin, literally "thou also" (or, in modern slang, "so are you!"); an argument which consists in retorting accusations.

The sentence must, in some way, relate to the news of the day. The Review threads are linked for your edification. ;-)
Practice makes perfect.....post on....


Review Threads:

Review Thread One: Word For The Day, Thursday 11/14/02: Raffish (Be SURE to check out posts #92 and #111 on this thread!)
Review Thread Two: Word For The Day, Tuesday 1/14/03: Roister
Review Thread Three: Word For The Day, Tuesday 1/28/03: Obdurate

WFB's attempt to emulate us ; ) No pushing at the door please!


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1 posted on 09/13/2012 4:13:11 AM PDT by secret garden
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To: secret garden; Fierce Allegiance; Jack Deth; K4Harty; miskie; Dutchgirl; cardinal4; MoochPooch; ...

Rise and shine!


2 posted on 09/13/2012 4:14:32 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: secret garden

Hi


3 posted on 09/13/2012 4:22:09 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (When the Obama poster fades, the portrait of Che Guevara beneath it shows through.)
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To: secret garden

When conservatives claim that we’re broke, we
Are hit with the liberals’ tu quoque
“George Bush did it too!”
And while all that is true
Next to Barry, George spent quite slow-pokely


4 posted on 09/13/2012 4:31:26 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (When the Obama poster fades, the portrait of Che Guevara beneath it shows through.)
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To: secret garden

Romney’s objection to the Administration’s apology to the Cairo agitators was met by a tu quoque from the Obama-fawnign media who tried to shame him for raising the question.


5 posted on 09/13/2012 4:38:52 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: secret garden

Romney’s objection to the Administration’s apology to the Cairo agitators was met by a tu quoque from the Obama-fawning media who tried to shame him for raising the question.


6 posted on 09/13/2012 4:39:08 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Well done! A+ for you!
7 posted on 09/13/2012 4:43:00 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Exactly right, and the Journolist is in collusion again to promote its agenda(and it's on tape). A for you!
8 posted on 09/13/2012 4:44:45 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: secret garden
Pre-emptive accusations by the useful idiots to put the innocent on defense are all the rage.

It makes me, like Indiana Jones, sigh "more in sadness than in anger" in response to the ever-escalating point-counterpoint, and reach instead for a way to end the argument with finality.

Which would obviate the possibility or utility of a tu quoque, n'est-ce pas?

9 posted on 09/13/2012 5:16:25 AM PDT by NicknamedBob (Clint Eastwood has been invited to chair the next Republican Convention Committee.)
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To: secret garden

I know you are but what am I? ; )


10 posted on 09/13/2012 5:50:07 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

Meanwhile, in Fayette county...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/13/jackie-hatter-roadside-stripteases_n_1879662.html


11 posted on 09/13/2012 5:53:42 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: secret garden
Sorry but he`s 1500 years too late- The Latin Mass had it 2000 years ago

“Nobis quoque peccatoribus” – “to us also, thy sinful servants.”

12 posted on 09/13/2012 5:56:40 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Fidem scit non. Who knew??)
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To: SoothingDave

Btw we had to circle before landing last night and landed half an hour late so that the Kenyan might get airborne. Been up since 4 am. Internal clock goes off no matter what.


13 posted on 09/13/2012 6:33:08 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: secret garden
a retort made by a person accused of a crime implying that the accuser is also guilty of the same crime

A rather incongruous image came to mind of a stereotypical hood utilizing the Latin form:

"Tu quoque, bud, I ain't takin' the rap alone!"

14 posted on 09/13/2012 6:39:05 AM PDT by mikrofon (Fuggedaboudit)
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To: NicknamedBob
Verdad. A for you.
15 posted on 09/13/2012 6:51:20 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: xsmommy
Your inner middle schooler is showing.(TWSS) :-)
16 posted on 09/13/2012 6:52:38 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: bunkerhill7

A+ for you. Send me a link. Welcome to WFTD!


17 posted on 09/13/2012 6:54:36 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: mikrofon

Thug Latin, worth an A+!


18 posted on 09/13/2012 6:55:25 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: xsmommy

Don’t fall asleep while sunning yourself by the pool.


19 posted on 09/13/2012 7:12:46 AM PDT by tioga (Biden is the intellect of the Dem party. Clint Eastwood)
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To: secret garden
The Democrats engage the Republicans in a daily barrage of various tu quoque. Some are true but most are not and the Media always sees guilt only to the right never on the left.

BTW, I thought Mitt Romney looked more Presidential in his press conference the the current Idiot in Chief>

These deaths overseas are going to slime Hilary as well Since she is the Secretary of State when it all went down.

.....good bye 2016 Presidential bid if Romney wins.

20 posted on 09/13/2012 7:34:26 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: thingumbob

I agree. A+ for you.


21 posted on 09/13/2012 7:40:31 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: secret garden

tu quoque

While the guys were sitting around the garage this word came up along with...(not to mention...well,... not to mention) from last night.

Guillum said he added several foot/pounds of tu quoque as well as over 20 ho respower to his re stored Hudson sedan.

Some times he is just tu coo coo.


22 posted on 09/13/2012 8:08:40 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: tioga; SoothingDave

Xshub has his meeting from now. I’m breakfasting poolside then I have a massage scheduled. He walked me thru the casino part. How weird. We’re staying at the four seasons which sits atop the Mandalay Bay. I need to get my bearings bc I’m exploring alone. I was taking pix with my phone and he was acting embarrassed of me! I said when am I ever going to see these people again?? It just looks so odd to me. I’d never choose this as a destination but it’s fun since I’ve never been. Soother didn’t pick up on my movie reference the other night. Lost In America with Albert Brooks and Julie something. Retire and plan to travel the country they stop in Vegas she gets sucked in and LOSES THE NEST EGG of life savings to the gambling tables. I told Xshub, I hope I don’t lose the nest egg !


23 posted on 09/13/2012 8:09:45 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

Who gets Albert Brooks references?

Take $40 or $60 and go play some quarter slot machines. Try the ones with the real reels, not the video ones.

It’s cheaper than a massage and it might have a happy ending!


24 posted on 09/13/2012 8:20:26 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

I’m too intimidated to do it on my own ill wait for Xshub.


25 posted on 09/13/2012 8:24:40 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: SoothingDave
Guess you weren't born in 1985. It's the year we got married.
26 posted on 09/13/2012 8:34:13 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: SoothingDave; xsmommy

Have you ever seen Defending Your Life? It might be the best Albert Brooks movie ever.


27 posted on 09/13/2012 8:35:01 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: count-your-change
Always colorful, you are. /Yoda
A for you.
28 posted on 09/13/2012 8:36:15 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: xsmommy

Newlyweds. We celebrated 29 years this past weekend.


29 posted on 09/13/2012 8:37:58 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: secret garden

Ha-ha! I corrected it to 28 and it went through wrong anyway. We’re on our 29th year now.


30 posted on 09/13/2012 8:39:02 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: xsmommy

Wasn’t watching a lot of Albert Brooks movies in my high school years. Or ever. Are there even a lot of Albert Brooks movies?


31 posted on 09/13/2012 8:44:02 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: secret garden; xsmommy
It might be the best Albert Brooks movie ever.

It probably is. Not that that's saying much.

My wife has a copy of it. I've seen parts of it, but never sat through from beginning to ending.

32 posted on 09/13/2012 8:45:27 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: secret garden

Obv you were a child bride ; ) we waited til we had both graduated law school, passed the bar and both had jobs. Guess he could have thrown me over had I tripped up on any of those steps!


33 posted on 09/13/2012 8:52:34 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: secret garden

http://kankakeelatinmass.altaredesign.com/tag/nobis-quoque-peccatoribus/


34 posted on 09/13/2012 9:01:23 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Fidem scit non. Who knew??)
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To: xsmommy

We had finished grad school by then. That’s where we met. But we both started school when we were 4.


35 posted on 09/13/2012 9:11:08 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: bunkerhill7

Thank you for the link. I was hoping it would explain when the phrase was first used. It is a good reminder that we are all sinners.


36 posted on 09/13/2012 9:14:38 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: secret garden
When they said
Bon Jovi was dead
Someone threw out the tu quoque
That Scott Baio was also not OK*.

*No celebrities from the 1980's were actually harmed.

37 posted on 09/13/2012 10:32:49 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("If I had a son he'd look like B.O.'s lunch" - Rin Tin Tin)
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To: NeoCaveman
Chachi, NO! Or how I think of him, Bob LaBlabla. A+ for you and here's another article about the guy who thinks he is always the smartest one in the room, and I don't mean Romney. As Rush says, show me the evidence that he is smart.
38 posted on 09/13/2012 10:53:44 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: secret garden

http://bobloblawlawblog.ytmnd.com/

Bob Loblaw’s Law Blog


39 posted on 09/13/2012 11:32:31 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

It just brought up a weird pic. I don’t want to register because I need to clean this computer of junk anyway(very sloooow lately). But thanks for showing how to spell his name!


40 posted on 09/13/2012 11:47:09 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: SoothingDave; NeoCaveman; secret garden

Xsbaby got to shake mitts mitt today! No Ryan at this one I guess. Also I spent my hour long massage convincing an undecided NV voter. She thanked me for the info.


41 posted on 09/13/2012 11:48:59 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

That is very cool.

Mitt is in town Friday.


42 posted on 09/13/2012 12:01:36 PM PDT by NeoCaveman ("If I had a son he'd look like B.O.'s lunch" - Rin Tin Tin)
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To: xsmommy

Very cool! He went to her school? And good job talking your masseuse into thinking clearly before she casts a vote.


43 posted on 09/13/2012 12:17:37 PM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: secret garden

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2930458/posts

New Scott Baio sitcom.


44 posted on 09/13/2012 12:18:32 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: secret garden

Everyone I’ve talked to today is freaked out by what is going on, and I can’t figure out why-I’ve been expecting something to happen on 9-11 again since Obama went on his first apology tour...

Obama didn’t really apologize-
He made Hillary do it instead
He’ll make her the fall guy
In case more people end up dead

And when she gets pounced on,
She’ll say tu quoque-not fair!
While the emperor goes off golfing
And campaigning without a care

She wanted a high profile job,
But she forgot, like many of us-
That guy who signs your paycheck
Can throw you under the nearest bus

I keep having these flashbacks to the Carter hostage debacle-the similarities are uncanny, aren’t they? I remember someone doing a spoof of the Knack’s tune “My Sharona”, calling it “Ayatollah”-I don’t remember the words, but it was funny.


45 posted on 09/13/2012 1:08:35 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5
Seen this?


46 posted on 09/13/2012 1:10:42 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

Noi, I hadn’t-very clever and apporopriate...


47 posted on 09/13/2012 1:14:27 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: SoothingDave

I meant “no”...


48 posted on 09/13/2012 1:15:46 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: SoothingDave

freaky


49 posted on 09/13/2012 1:28:45 PM PDT by tioga (Biden is the intellect of the Dem party. Clint Eastwood)
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To: NeoCaveman

The logic of the Liberal....

Criminal bombs abortion clinic, we blame the criminal, not the abortionist.

Idiot makes film, Criminals bomb our embassies, we blame the idiot.


50 posted on 09/13/2012 3:26:54 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the1Tru Conservative that REFUSES to unite us and Save America"you)
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