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Windows 8 Oct. 26 Release Approaches: This Could Be ‘Exactly What Microsoft Needs,’
International Business Times ^ | 09/16/2012 | LISA EADICICCO

Posted on 09/16/2012 8:01:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: catnipman
"Obviously you’re not a professional, power PC user. I am. I program for a living. I open dozens of programs dozens of times each during development. No way, no shape, no form does Metro UI allow that quickly. That’s what quickstart, desktop shortcuts, and the Start Menu are for."

Dozens? Really?

Press the Windows key and start typing the name of the program and it shows up instantly.

As far as desktop shortcuts and quickstart? Didn't you notice they are all STILL there?

The reality is that you need not even use Metro Start for much of anything if you dont want to. You can unpin everything other than the Desktop tile.

"I, and thousands of other power users tried W8 and we have all given it thumbs down. I was unable to work until I hacked the registry to disable Metro UI and installed Classic Shell to restore the Start Menu."

So now you clicked Start, and moved a mouse around through sub folders? THAT is what a "power user" does?

That's not being a power user. Those people can work effortlessly in new environments and quickly pick up on new methods. What you are describing is the equivalent of the office hen that writes her supervisor because they upgraded the web browser and she cant figure out how to get to her "email webpage" and thus needs it changed back.

If "thousands" of those types cant use their power skills to wing it, well then there are plenty of others coming up that will and they will have your job eventually who will take to it.

"And don’t tell me I can’t adapt. I’ve worked with computers for 42 years, the last 17 years with PCs. I worked in a corporate environment as the chief network engineer for a corporation with over a 1000 employees. There’s simply no way that Windows 8 as it’s currently configured will be adopted on PCs by anybody except people who have no other choice but to buy their next PC from bestbuy. And even then, i’m guessing most will be taking them back."

And I bet I could have heard the same rant from you when you went from command lines to a desktop GUI as I hear now. In this case that 20th century paradigm that older programmers are rooted in is coming to a close. The age of the pretend desktop is over.

Governments and corporations are simply not going to retrain millions of their employees to use an interface designed to work well only on touch screen devices that have screens the size of a credit card.

They trained people to use a mouse. They trained them to use the internet. They trained them to use tablets and smartphones, and they will do so here as well because technology is always progressing.

My advice? Drop the curmudgeon act and start practicing because the kids coming up are going to be skilled in using this stuff and will be the ones setting the pace in your workplace very soon.

And besides, if it is just that terrible, then just keep using Windows 7. No one is forcing you to upgrade, just dont expect everyone else to stay there with you.
21 posted on 09/16/2012 3:20:22 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: SeekAndFind

Doubtful it’s what I’m looking for.


22 posted on 09/16/2012 5:36:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: usconservative

Here’s the problem with ctrl-key combinations: you have to use the keyboard. Any time I have to take my hand off the mouse and transfer it to the keyboard (except when I have to actually type a text string) and then transfer it back to the mouse, I’ve been defeated. I’ve been WAY slowed down on the work I do. I want to just click, click, click and NEVER EVER touch the keyboard for anything other than typing.

I’m a true power user and if you talk to any other true power user, they’ll probably tell you the same thing.


23 posted on 09/16/2012 6:24:26 PM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: VanDeKoik

LOL!

I noticed that you didn’t deny my assertion that obviously you’re not a power PC user. Instead, you just ranted and raved.


24 posted on 09/16/2012 6:32:42 PM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: catnipman
I’m a true power user and if you talk to any other true power user, they’ll probably tell you the same thing.

You say you write code, and having to touch the keyboard slows you down. Really? Hmmm, I write code too, and my hands are typically on the keyboard so the CTRL-Key functions work very well for me. Every "power user" I've ever met in my career has been keyboard centric and typically abhor's using a mouse to switch windows, much less requiring it's use to 'write code.'

BTW: What kind of coder simply clicks the mouse to write code without hardly ever having to touch the keyboard? I may need to switch.

25 posted on 09/16/2012 6:37:12 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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I’m a true power user

Right. I think that's the fourth time you've made that statement on this thread. Not sure what your definition of a "true power user" is, but most "true power users" I know don't have to brag, they have confidence in their skills and are highly adaptable to learning and exploiting new environments in their craft.

If you're anything in I.T. you know it's a "change or die" environment. Some change, some die. Some assert four times on a thread that they're "true power users" as if that makes them better than everyone else while they whine about not being able to adapt to a new environment.

Change or die. Either way, move on.

26 posted on 09/16/2012 6:41:43 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m running full Enterprise version Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012 Datacenter version on several dozen machines now, and I love it!

Practical and modern, fast, reliable (haven’t had a crash yet - since install on Aug 16 and Sep 4, respectively).

The Start Page (formerly known as Metro) can be modified and any program, application, administrative tool, control panel and associated item, etc can be put there for instant access.

My monitors are all HP 22” Touch screens, beautiful but I have one big, big problem: The Bezel is too deep and my finger too large to activate the pixels that do the swipe commands, so I have to use the mouse. If you’re going to go to touch screens, make sure they have no bezel, just a smooth surface like a tablet.

Windows 8 can do Hyper-V!!! I actually have virtual machines running on it that are themselves running Windows 8, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows 7, Windows XP, Windows Server 2012, and Red Hat Linux Fedora 17. I have 16GB of RAM and a six-core processor on my main machine—wish I could add more RAM but I am maxxed out. This OS and Machine is a Geek’s dream machine. Ultimate developer and tester of all things.


27 posted on 09/16/2012 6:48:26 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: catnipman

You obviously have a problem with comprehension. I never said you couldn’t adapt. My comments were from my experience over the past week with the Metro interface and the absence of the Start button.

But you have too thin a skin to discuss this further. Coupled with a high opinion of yourself, it makes further discussion unwanted. Goodbye.


28 posted on 09/17/2012 5:52:10 AM PDT by bcsco (Bourbon gets better with age...I age better with Bourbon.)
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To: usconservative

I have to agree with your assessment of Win8. It runs better and uses fewer resources. My only real issue has been the shutdown problem I noted in my first post. BTW, the Metro interface can be turned off. I haven’t, but I saw posts through Google on how to do it.


29 posted on 09/17/2012 5:57:00 AM PDT by bcsco (Bourbon gets better with age...I age better with Bourbon.)
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To: catnipman

“Obviously you’re not a professional, power PC user. I am. I program for a living. I open dozens of programs dozens of times each during development. No way, no shape, no form does Metro UI allow that quickly.”

This was your assertion. I told you all the ways to quickly open these “dozens” of programs you supposedly use in one day. 2/3 of that are already existing methods while the third, pressing the windows key and typing the name of the program, works the same way as it does with the current Start menu.

And yes I do use a number of programs myself, SDKs as well as graphics programs on windows 8 without a meltdown.

Then again, I’m able to embrace new tech far easily than some.


30 posted on 09/17/2012 7:33:12 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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