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Glass Slivers That Store Data Forever Unveiled By Hitachi
AFP ^ | 24 September 2012 | AFP

Posted on 09/24/2012 4:24:00 AM PDT by fella

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To: fella

Hmmm....I was thinking along the lines of ‘Babylon 5’ data crystals coming into existence.


21 posted on 09/24/2012 6:15:20 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: agere_contra
This means that - in a few hundred million years - forensic archaeologists from the unthinkably distant future will still be able to read our posts.

I am increasingly becoming convinced that archaeologists, when confronted with something whose purpose is non-obvious, simply make something up. Typically, they say it was an object used in religious ceremonies. So ironically, if they find an archive of posts from godless DU, they will claim that these glass slivers with strange dots on them appear to be religious artifacts.

22 posted on 09/24/2012 6:15:43 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: visualops
A square inch the thickness of a cd, for only 40 mb? That’s going to pile up rather quickly.

You would generally use it for things that you wanted to keep around for a long time: corporate data, music archives, video archives. For individual people, this would be a medium to transfer video recordings of their children growing up, family pictures, stuff you want to be able to pass on to your grandchildren.

23 posted on 09/24/2012 6:22:21 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: fella

darn...and I thought the 64G USB memory thingy I bought yesterday was cool....


24 posted on 09/24/2012 6:33:03 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: GeronL
"Forbidden Planet" used them to play old and weird music but no video.
25 posted on 09/24/2012 7:21:15 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again")
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To: fella
Glass Slivers That Store Data Forever Unveiled By Hitachi

I've been trying to forget this Sliver.

26 posted on 09/24/2012 7:56:15 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: jmcenanly

“Open the pod bay doors Hal” will become “open the family photo album hal”.


27 posted on 09/24/2012 8:06:53 AM PDT by freefdny
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To: fella

This concept was first proposed as a memory method at least 20 years ago. Finally glass memory storage may be coming to fruition, it appears.


28 posted on 09/24/2012 9:55:55 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: visualops

This is only proof of concept stuff, I suspect. It is likely that it won’t be long before this is able to be many more than four layers of data, and that data can be much more compressed than 10Mb/sq.in/layer, if the history of the advance of technology is followed.

Nevertheless, the most important part of this announcement is the longevity and permanence of this data storage device.


29 posted on 09/24/2012 10:06:34 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: visualops
A square inch the thickness of a cd, for only 40 mb? That’s going to pile up rather quickly.

But that's as much as 5 Thumbdrives!


30 posted on 09/24/2012 10:29:59 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: fella

OK, so the data will last for centuries - how about the devices to ‘read’ that data?


31 posted on 09/24/2012 10:55:05 AM PDT by GOPJ (You only establish a feel for the line by having crossed it. - - Freeper One Name)
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To: BenLurkin; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks BenLurkin. The problem is, picking it up without cutting yourself.


32 posted on 09/24/2012 5:52:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Oztrich Boy
LOL!


33 posted on 09/25/2012 4:13:12 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: AFPhys
the most important part of this announcement is the longevity and permanence of this data storage device.

That's what they always say! :)
34 posted on 09/25/2012 4:15:40 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: visualops

You misread. It has the information density of a CD, not the thickness of a CD.


35 posted on 09/25/2012 4:16:23 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: AFPhys

Actually, thirty years ago, the guys in the lab next door to mine at the research center in El Segundo, CA, an offshoot of Xerox’s PARC, Dr. P. McQ. and his assistant, Bob, were working on glass memory with micro lasers just before PARC closed the entire lab and laid us all off.

This is sweeeet! They never should have closed that lab down, but it was political. The director of the Advanced Development Lab made someone among the PTB at PARC really angry about something, and that was that.

We could have skipped a whole lot of media-storage steps if they hadn’t made that corrupt decision in 1982, which is ahead in the running for the worst year of my life.


36 posted on 09/25/2012 1:00:46 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: aruanan

No I didn’t. The article refers to data density (which isn’t that great actually if no better than a cd) and thickness. The thickness is actually a little higher than a cd, at .08 inches for this glass vs about .05 inches for a cd.
The mistake I made was a thinking a cd was about 2mm thick when it’s thinner.


37 posted on 09/26/2012 4:23:54 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: TheOldLady

Yes. I kind of low-balled it when I estimated when I first heard discussions of glass structures used for computer memory. I am not surprised to hear that PaloAlto was involved in such research. It is rather surprising for me to hear that you were involved in some way with that research!


38 posted on 09/26/2012 5:54:34 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: AFPhys

Oh, I thought I told you a while ago that I was an RA-5 at a PARC division. I didn’t work on the glass memory; the guys in the lab next door to mine did, and they were pretty excited about it at the time and explained it to me.

I used to go in their lab to use the SEM and a few other pieces of their equipment. My lab was electroplating and photolithography, too fumy and chemically to house their sensitive equipment.

I was working on the resistor/capacitor electrographic writing head for Xerox machines at the time. I completed the first prototype before they closed the division. It worked, too!


39 posted on 09/26/2012 6:27:31 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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