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Civitas Poll: Obama, Biden Lead Romney, Ryan in NC 49% - 45% (Taken 9/18-9/19)
Civitas Poll ^ | 9/24/12 | Civitas Poll

Posted on 09/24/2012 1:22:03 PM PDT by Adriatic Cons

A new poll from the Civitas Institute found that the Democratic ticket of President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden is 4 percentage points ahead of the Republican slate — presidential candidate Mitt Romney and his running mate, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan.

The Civitas Poll of 600 likely North Carolina voters was taken Sept. 18-19 and had a margin of error of plus-minus 4 percent. Asked if the election were held today who they would vote for, 49 percent chose Obama/Biden and 45 percent chose Romney/Ryan. (This is the first 2012 Civitas Poll to include the vice presidential candidates.)


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To: Adriatic Cons

Check this link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2935679/posts

The PA guys insist that all the others are using at least a +7 Dem model, which they reject. Here in Montgomery Co., OH, the diff is +3 with Indies increasing by the day. If you look at all the polls you list except MI and WI (+12 ridiculous), that means that Romney is probably leading or tied in CO, NV, IA, leading in FL, and so on.


41 posted on 09/24/2012 1:55:02 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: pburgh01

He beat a weak Mc Cain campign in 2008 and I know the people in North Carolina have elected for the first time a GOP house and Senate sense 1898 and the current Gov isn’t even running for reelection


42 posted on 09/24/2012 1:55:54 PM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: MNJohnnie

Correct and he was running against McCrap


43 posted on 09/24/2012 1:56:54 PM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: marstegreg

Yeah I found the breakdown for their poll:

* 31.3%Republican
* 43.4%Democrat
* 25.3%Independent/Other

http://www.nccivitas.org/2012/july-2012-poll-results/


44 posted on 09/24/2012 2:00:18 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

45D-33R-22I sample in a state Obama won in 2008 by .03 of a point


45 posted on 09/24/2012 2:00:58 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Looked like a tag team. The poster signed up on 9/21. The commenter signed up on 9/13.


46 posted on 09/24/2012 2:03:26 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I know this is a little far-fetched but I am starting to think they are saying Obama is ahead not to demoralize republicans but to account for voter fraud. Am I paranoid??


47 posted on 09/24/2012 2:06:09 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: Adriatic Cons

Left wing British, soros funded “think tank”!

Civitas (think tank)From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is about the British think tank. For the Roman political concept, see Civitas.

Civitas: The Institute for the Study of Civil Society was founded by David George Green and Robert Whelan early in 2000 as an independent think tank. It is a British registered charity (No. 1085494),[1] financed by private donations. It receives no government funding and has no affiliations with any political party.

Contents [hide]
1 Activities
2 Policy Interests
3 People
4 Publications
5 Involvement in schools
6 See also
7 References
8 External links

Activities: The stated underlying purpose of Civitas is to deepen public understanding of the legal, institutional and moral framework that makes a free and democratic society possible.

They state that what they do is:

Support informed public debate and encourage consensus by:
Providing accurate factual information on today’s social issues.

Publishing informed comment and analysis.
Bringing together leading protagonists in open discussion.
Work towards pragmatic solutions to current social problems.

Implement pioneering projects to demonstrate what can be accomplished.

Supply schools with teaching materials and guest speakers.
[edit] Policy InterestsThe think tank describes itself as “classical liberal” and “non-partisan”. Its director David G. Green writes occasionally in The Daily Telegraph and its deputy director Anastasia de Waal frequently contributes to the Guardian’s Comment is Free.[2] Its areas of policy interest include:

Crime Civitas authors have argued for more consistent crime policies that straddle the left-right divide, for earlier and pre-emptive interventions with prolific offenders and for crime statistics to be more digestibly and honestly presented. They have also advocated rehabilitating prisoners through drug programmes and vocational education.
Education Civitas research seeks out an objective view of standards of education in Britain in order to offer an improved perspective on how best to deliver equitable and high standards of education for all. The particular aim is to generate evidence-based policy, with realisable strategies for implementation.
]
Family Its authors have examined the impact of social policy and changing social norms in families, looking in particular at family structure and the socioeconomic significance of marriage in the UK.
Health Civitas authors have called for an end to the NHS’s monopoly on public healthcare and greater diversity in the system with the aim of creating a more equitable system for all.

Immigration Its authors have sought to analyse the pros and cons of mass immigration, including the costs for the public sector and downward pressure on low-paid jobs.
Economic growth The Wealth of Nations project was established to encourage a more balanced economy and especially to explore how best to stimulate manufacturing in order to foster a more resilient economy and to generate jobs across the ability range.

PeopleDirector:
David G. Green[3]
Deputy Director (Research): Anastasia de Waal
Director of Civitas Schools: Eleanor Rogerson
Editorial Director: Robert Whelan
PublicationsBooks

Crime

The Public and the Police (2008) Harriet Sergeant
Crime and Civil Society: Can we become a more law-abiding people? (2005) Dr David G. Green, Emma Grove and Nadia A. Martin

Crimes of the Community: Honour-based Violence in the UK (2007)
James Brandon and Salam Hafez Education

What Your Year 1 Child Needs to Know (2011) E. D. Hirsch, Jr. (ed.)
Liberal Education and the National Curriculum (2010) Prof. David Conway
Inspecting the Inspectorate: Ofsted Under Scrutiny (2008) Anastasia de Waal
Corruption of the Curriculum (2007) Robert Whelan
The Butterfly Book: A Reading and Writing Course (2007) Irina Tyk
The Butterfly Grammar: A Course for Better English (2008) Irina Tyk and Ed Dovey
Family

Second Thoughts on the Family (2008) Anastasia de Waal
Health

Putting Patients Last (2009) Peter Davies, James Gubb and Donald R. Keogh
Quite Like Heaven? Options for the NHS in a Consumer Age (2007) Nick Seddon and Bernard Ribeiro
Immigration

A Nation of Immigrants? A brief demographic history of Britain (2007) Prof. David Conway
Disunited Kingdom (2009) Prof. David Conway
Manufacturing

Nations Choose Prosperity: Why Britain needs an Industrial Policy (2009) Ruth Lea and David G. Green
[edit] Involvement in schoolsCivitas provides teaching materials and guest speakers for schools, in particular on family structure and on the EU.

The EU project publishes a series of free factsheets on the European Union, designed for use by A-level students. Civitas also arranges speakers for talks and debates in schools on the subject of the EU.

Civitas runs supplementary schools on Saturday mornings and after school hours. The schools teach English and maths to children from disadvantaged backgrounds, emphasising traditional approaches such as phonics. There are now eighteen supplementary schools in King’s Cross, Hammersmith, Camberwell, Keighley, Birmingham, Great Yarmouth and Bradford providing classes for over 500 children per week.

Civitas is adapting the American Core Knowledge curriculum for the UK. It is a year-by-year outline of the specific and shared content and skills to be taught in Years 1 to 6. The first Core Knowledge book, What Your Year 1 Child Needs to Know, aroused controversy when released in 2011.[4]

Young Civitas for Medics, a new society founded by medical students for medical students, was launched in 2010 with the help of the Civitas Health Unit. The society aims to plug a gap in the medical curriculum by providing an open and impartial arena for students to learn how the NHS works and debate the future of health policy. It has now become independent.

[edit] See alsoList of UK think tanks
[edit] References^ Civitas, Registered Charity no. 1085494 at the Charity Commission
^ Anastasia de Waal profile at guardian.co.uk
^ David Green biography at civitas.org.uk
^ English version of US fact bible for Year 1s hits the shops at the Times Educational Supplement
[edit] External linksCIVITAS Official website
Young Civitas for Medics Official website
London Boxing Academy
New Model School Company
Civitas Schools
Core Knowledge UK
Top Twelve UK Think Tanks
Retrieved from “http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Civitas_(think_tank)&oldid=490282901";


48 posted on 09/24/2012 2:08:12 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: LS

LS, I remember 4 years ago you were calling Ohio for McCain, quoting early voting data etc. As we know, Ohio went for O by almost 5%.

I see that that experience did not influence your perception of reality. Romney is down in OH by 5%, down in VA by 4%, down in FL and probably down in NC (last 3 polls there all show him down, and none of them are from Dem pollsters).


49 posted on 09/24/2012 2:09:42 PM PDT by ubaldus
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To: marstegreg
[I know this is a little far-fetched but I am starting to think they are saying Obama is ahead not to demoralize republicans but to account for voter fraud. Am I paranoid??]

Not at all. I've heard that mentioned on other threads several times.

50 posted on 09/24/2012 2:11:33 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: ubaldus
No way this poll is accurate, FRiend.


51 posted on 09/24/2012 2:12:52 PM PDT by o2bfree
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To: Adriatic Cons

Got yourself banned noob. Get back to your mom’s basement.


52 posted on 09/24/2012 2:22:20 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: Adriatic Cons

Sure. Obamugabe’s coming out to celebrate sodomy the day after North Carolina rejected the idea is what is putting him over the top.


53 posted on 09/24/2012 2:29:39 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Adriatic Cons

A senior fundraiser in the NC Republican machine just told me that Obama pulled out of NC over the weekend. I thought that was good news, but he said that the R’s had hoped that Obama would spend a fortune here and then lose by 5 points.

Civitas is a great organization and very well respected in the conservative movement. They were big supporters of the Tea Party Movement and I first met their people at a July 4th, 2009 Tea Party rally in Raleigh.

They weighed their poll like the leftist pollsters to see what would happen and to draw Obama back to NC to spend money.

I still believe unskewedpolls.com.

There is NO enthusiasm for Obama in 2012 in NC - none!
The white Obama supporters I know talk of how “disappointed” the are and how they will not vote for him again. Of course, that means they will not vote, period.

The down ticket races are boring and lopsided R and, except for a few R wins in the House, are not worth the usual D GOTV mania.

I hope Obama spends a lot of money here. Several of my friends work in the TV business and would enjoy the year end bonuses!


54 posted on 09/24/2012 2:44:32 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Thank you Brad! I guess it is a little more obvious than I thought.


55 posted on 09/24/2012 3:06:47 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: LS

Based on what we’re seeing with absentee ballots in OH, I just don’t see how any of these polls are legit. So far, we are seeing substantial GOP leads in reddish counties; some GOP lead in some heavily Dem counties; and about the predicted split in Cayahoga County-—except that if the indies go for Romney, then OH goes red.


Good news. How do you know what actual vote counts are ?

Thanks for a response.


56 posted on 09/24/2012 3:15:25 PM PDT by patriotspride
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To: ubaldus

In 2008 there where countless reports of polls oversampling Dems


57 posted on 09/24/2012 3:36:22 PM PDT by zt1053
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To: MNJohnnie
45D-33R-22I sample in a state Obama won in 2008 by .03 of a point.

Good God,*Massachusetts* has party numbers that are close to that.

58 posted on 09/24/2012 3:42:28 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive!)
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To: ubaldus

Sorry but your claims about the polling are across the board wrong. Read it and weep

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/


59 posted on 09/24/2012 3:53:20 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: zt1053
In 2008 there where countless reports of polls oversampling Dems

No there were not. What there were were countless claims that an immeasurable "Brady effect" was going to change the polling data. That white voters were going to not vote for Obama but would tell the pollsters that they were to avoid being accused of racism.

60 posted on 09/24/2012 3:56:47 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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