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Best Inexpensive Guns for Home Defense
Prep-Blog ^ | 9/24/12 | Thoreau

Posted on 09/24/2012 6:24:41 PM PDT by Kartographer

This prepping and survival blog post is a discussion of the best inexpensive guns for home defense across various categories of guns. On this subject, opinions vary greatly. If you have a different opinion, feel free to comment on this post. However, I’m talking about home defense guns here, not self-defense guns generally. You might want a self-defense gun for carry that is compact, lightweight, concealable. But all of those features are low priority in a home defense gun. In my view, the most necessary features in a home defense gun are these seven:

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1. Reliable

2. Accurate

3. Moderate power

4. Moderate range

5. Inexpensive gun

6. Availability of ammo

7. Ammo capacity

1 posted on 09/24/2012 6:24:48 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!

For your consideration, discussion and critique.


2 posted on 09/24/2012 6:26:03 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

If you insist on the moderate power and range, the Ruger 10/22 is probably the closest match.

If you simply want the best gun, I would say a Remington 1187 or some of the other nice 12 gauge automatics.


3 posted on 09/24/2012 6:27:58 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Kartographer

7.62 x 25 Russian for $200-250.


4 posted on 09/24/2012 6:28:13 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Kartographer

H&R Pardner - an 870 clone.

perfect home defense shotgun.


5 posted on 09/24/2012 6:28:45 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Kartographer

Mossberg 12 ga pump shotgun. Thus sayeth Mr. Trimom.


6 posted on 09/24/2012 6:28:50 PM PDT by trimom
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To: Kartographer
5. Inexpensive gun

A Hi-Point gun.

7 posted on 09/24/2012 6:30:19 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Kartographer

Used pump shotgun, 20 or 12 gauge.

If you want new, the Chinese are making very good knock-offs of the Remington 870. (They’re so good that parts and accessories are interchangeable)

Norinco, IAC, also being offered as the Harrington & Richardson (H&R) “Pardner”.

Under $200 new.


8 posted on 09/24/2012 6:31:49 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: Kartographer

You cannot beat a good old fashioned 12 gauge shotgun. We like the Mossberg 500.


9 posted on 09/24/2012 6:32:13 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kartographer

Mr. Trimom also wanted me to mention that the Mossberg is 100% American made.


10 posted on 09/24/2012 6:32:36 PM PDT by trimom
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To: yarddog
If I could have only one survival gun, the Ruger 10/22 would be it. You can hunt for food with it, 22’s are dirt cheap. It can head shot larger game in a pinch. It is rather quiet vs a full power rifle, is accurate.

In a urban setting when you might want to “eat Chinese” and have meow tacos, you can fire the squirrel rounds that are subsonic and it is as if the rifle had a silencer.

Strictly survival though, very un-kosher to hunt larger game with a 22, unless your life depended on it. I have killed quite a few coons with subsonics that were trapped in havaharts to not "disturb" my liberal neighbor.

11 posted on 09/24/2012 6:32:55 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Kartographer
I have been thinking about a 420 gage shotgun for home defense

take down anything and not take out structural walls

What do you think?

Small enough to teach my young daughters to practice with a real shotgun

And the ammo is so tiny its almost CUTE

I know.. I'm weird

12 posted on 09/24/2012 6:34:48 PM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: Kartographer

Related:

http://www.americanrifleman.org/GalleryItem.aspx?cid=22&gid=198&id=1770&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Disaster-text&utm_campaign=SuppressionScoop


13 posted on 09/24/2012 6:35:31 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kartographer

Mossberg 500


14 posted on 09/24/2012 6:35:31 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Obama gives us the gift of downward mobility)
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To: Kartographer

Before I even read the other responses ... Ruger 10/22
(it is a must have)

TT


15 posted on 09/24/2012 6:36:34 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: Mr. K

A person could get by with a .410 but a 20 gauge would be better if you don’t want to go 12.


16 posted on 09/24/2012 6:38:07 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: TexasTransplant

plus the 10/22 is just plain fun and dirt cheap to shoot


17 posted on 09/24/2012 6:38:23 PM PDT by al baby (“If Barack Obama has a Harvard law degree, he didn’t earn that. Somebody else made that happen.”)
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To: Kartographer

Mossberg 500.

Nothing says you’ve entered the wrong house like the sound a pump shotgun being jacked. (Except maybe a slightly worn slide on a 1911).

If I had only one gun a 10/22 would be high the list but the question had do do with inexpensive home defense.


18 posted on 09/24/2012 6:39:29 PM PDT by lrdg
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To: Mr. K

I think you mean a .410 gauge Mr. K, and I concur. I bought my daughter a nice used Ithaca Model 66 super single 20 gauge, and it’s too much for her.

Shoulda went lighter....


19 posted on 09/24/2012 6:39:43 PM PDT by onona (This space for rent....cheep)
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To: Kartographer

300 bucks will get you a Winchester Defender in 12 or 20 gauge. 18inch barrel, 8 shell pump. They work.


20 posted on 09/24/2012 6:40:29 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: 2111USMC

Why would you recommend a gun that is a rip-off, made by commies?


21 posted on 09/24/2012 6:40:48 PM PDT by NowApproachingMidnight (47%, pull off the leeches in 2012!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
"We like the Mossberg 500."

Cant go wrong there.....Lots of different configurations.

22 posted on 09/24/2012 6:41:53 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: onona

My advisor here says that a 20 gauge is half the shot load and twice the kick. And that a 28 gauge is a better choice for girls...the 410 is more of an “expert” weapon.


23 posted on 09/24/2012 6:42:49 PM PDT by trimom
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To: Kartographer

You decline to differentiate between urban “home defense” and rural. For urban settings, Mossberg 500 gets my vote.
For rural, Ruger 10/22 with Leupold variable scope will keep ‘em from getting clost to the home.


24 posted on 09/24/2012 6:43:22 PM PDT by Fireone (Impeach and imprison, NOW!)
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To: Mr. K

shotgun ballistics are not like rifles. A 12 gauge target load is 1 to 1 1/8th ounce of shot at 1200 feet per second. A .410 is 1/2 or 11/16 ounce of shot at 1200 feet per second.

For a light recoiling defense shotgun I’d suggest a 20 gauge (7/8th ounce) semi automatic.


25 posted on 09/24/2012 6:43:39 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Kartographer

Ping


26 posted on 09/24/2012 6:43:39 PM PDT by STJPII
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To: Kartographer

You can pick up a Remington 870 tactical 12-gauge pump, the no-frills model, for $330 in my area. Up to $400 some places. Holds seven rounds, 2 3/4 or 3 inch.

Pump rather than auto because you minimize concern about jams.

Shotgun rather than rifle or handgun because you minimize concern about missing.

Defense model rather than big old long gun because you can manuever in small rooms, around corners, so much easier.

You’ll be surprised at how secure you’ll feel with that little black bulldog in your hands.


27 posted on 09/24/2012 6:43:59 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: jwalsh07

There is a 12 gauge Winchester Defender near my bed right now. I only paid $189 at Wal-Mart but that was a few years ago.

It is tactically just as good as an 870 but I sure like the feel of the 870 better.

Right now it is loaded with 8, 2/34 inch OO buck shot, tho at times I have gone with BB shot, #4 buck and even number 8 bird shot.

I have arthritis in my hands and I added a pistol grip along with the same type butt and pump handle. I find the pistol grip (it looks much like an AR-15 type) makes it much easier to handle with my arthritis.


28 posted on 09/24/2012 6:47:31 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Kartographer

I have the Marlin model 60, awesome rifle. I def need to get that hi-point.


29 posted on 09/24/2012 6:47:53 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: All
If any of you folks are going to buy a shotgun, I'd suggest you forget the games and buy a real one with at least 3" chamber(s) and the absolute top all around shotgun I know of is going to be the Beretta Xtrema-2 which can be had on gunbroker for around 1100 (last time I looked at least) and can basically do everything.

The Xtrema-2 is Beretta's semiauto hunting gun with a 3.5" chamber and a heavy spring and bleed-off valve meaning it can shoot skeets one day and geese or deer the next with just a chamge of ammo, said to be self cleaning which is only a tiny bit of a lie, you have to clean the barrel and I normally clean the piston chamber and piston but that isn't difficult.

A 3" magnum buckshot shell will absolutely annihilate any sort of a hoodlum or burglar who ever gets shot with it and available options include large-capacity feed tubes which are normally used by trick shooters but would in fact convert the thing to a home defense weapon.


30 posted on 09/24/2012 6:48:23 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Mr. K
I've seen a lot of fathers turn their kids off to shooting forever by giving them a .410 for a first shotgun. There's so little shot inside those "cute" shells, it's difficult to hit anything, and it's hitting the target that makes a kid think, "This is fun! I want to shoot more!"

Get a decent "youth model" 20-gauge pump with an adjustable stock. I'm a big fan of the Mossberg 500 Super Bantam. If they're not yet big enough to lift, aim, and fire a 20-gauge loaded with light trap loads, they're not big enough to be shooting a shotgun, period.

31 posted on 09/24/2012 6:48:26 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (OVERTHROW OBAMA!)
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To: Kartographer

S&W .38 Special
Model 10 or 64

The amount of training and practice you’re willing to dedicate is another significant factor.

The Glock 17 is 9mm pistol I’d consider as a first semi-auto, if you’re willing to train & practice.


32 posted on 09/24/2012 6:49:33 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: onona

You might want to get a .410/45 Colt chamber adapter from Short Lane for that Model 66. I ordered one last year for around $20.


33 posted on 09/24/2012 6:50:25 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Kartographer

Mossburg 500 or
Remington 870 pump shotguns.


34 posted on 09/24/2012 6:50:36 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Kartographer
For a little over $300 you should consider this shotgun. You get many options with this:

"12 Gauge Mossberg 500 Pump Action Field and Security Shotgun Combo 28" & 18-1/2" Barrels 6 Rounds Wood Stock Blued Finish

Mossberg 500 Field and Security Combo, Wood Stock, 12 Gauge, 28" Vent Rib Barrel and 18-1/2" Cylinder Bore Security Barrel.
Mossberg's 500® pump action shotguns offer an amazing amount of gun for an unbeatable price. The variety of stock, barrel and finish options alone would assure the place of the 500® in the hearts of outdoorsmen. But, of course, its performance in the field goes a long way in cementing its reputation with millions of hunters as well. Quickly and easily change between wingshooting and home security with this combo .

Specifications and features:
Mossberg 500 pump action field & security shotgun combo
Interchangeable barrels
12 gauge
28" vent rib field barrel
18-1/2" security barrel
6 round capacity
Ambidextrous thumb safety
3" chamber
Quiet carry dual action bars
Twin bead sight field barrel
Bead sight security barrel
Accu-Set choke system field barrel
Cylinder bore security barrel
Pistol grip kit
Wood stock
Blued finish
48-1/2" overall length with field barrel
37-1/2" overall length with security barrel
13-7/8" length of pull
1-1/2" drop at comb
2-3/8" drop at heel
Drilled & tapped
7-1/2 lbs.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/46907

35 posted on 09/24/2012 6:51:22 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Kartographer
Whatever shotgun you get, reduced recoil 00 buck is pretty cool stuff- significant reduction in recoil, but still truly sufficient penetration and oomph.

Might I also suggest a pistol caliber carbine like a KelTec SUB-2000?


Folds to 16x7" if you like. Light, compact, better range, more precise, and cheaper to feed (and to practice) than the shotgun. Less recoil and blast too. Takes Glock, S&W, Beretta, or SIG mags. .357 mag ballistics at 50 yards.
36 posted on 09/24/2012 6:51:35 PM PDT by verum ago (Be a bastard, and Karma'll be a bitch.)
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To: Kartographer

Get a single barreled, single shot 12 gauge shotgun. Buy a used one. Use 00 buckshot.


37 posted on 09/24/2012 6:52:12 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: 2111USMC

I love my short barreled 870 Marine Magnum (it’s pretty and has great manuverability). The 7 shot capacity is almost enough to recreate that scene in Predator where they knock down the entire jungle with hot lead.


38 posted on 09/24/2012 6:53:42 PM PDT by gore_sux (Al Franken - Preferred by Minnesota Educated Somali Pirates and Suicide Bombers Everywhere)
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To: yarddog

Same here, but I load #4. Right next to my wifes 22/45. :-)


39 posted on 09/24/2012 6:54:56 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: Kartographer

Any basic pump action 12 gauge. Plenty of different loads for different applications; outside of a serious high power rifle there isn’t really anything that can deliver so much lethality. While I put no faith in the old canard of the racking sound scaring off a bad guy, and at ‘social encounter’ ranges the spread is minimal, it is still my first choice. And quite capable of taking out someone at 25 yards or so. And cheap.

My major concern where I live is that there are young children in the houses in three sides of me, and I’m in the middle of a city; even with thick walls there is a non-zero chance of a bullet leaving the property and that is totally unacceptable in any circumstances.


40 posted on 09/24/2012 6:55:18 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

Because you can get one with all the accessories for $125 and it works like a hose?


41 posted on 09/24/2012 6:55:35 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: trimom

Exactly what I have. Especially like the ambidexrious safety since I am right handed and my wife is left handed.


42 posted on 09/24/2012 6:56:50 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: mylife

God
Country
Neighbor
Self

All greater than China, my freeper friend.


43 posted on 09/24/2012 6:57:06 PM PDT by NowApproachingMidnight (47%, pull off the leeches in 2012!)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

Mr. 2111USMC mentioned the Norinco possibly/probably because it fits the stated criteria very well...

That the firearm be American made is not among those criteria...

I do concur with Mr. 2111USMC re: the Norinco...I personally prefer the Remington, but the Norinco in 12 ga is a good choice...

My own suggestions would be: 10/22, 870 Remington, RRA AR15, Sprinbgfield Armory XD in your choice of caliber, Remington 700 in .308 with min 3x9 glass...

Critical is adequate ammo for each...And get quality instruction, then train, train, train...


44 posted on 09/24/2012 6:57:15 PM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak!)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

Because they’re “inexpensive”, which was the main qualifier in the question. (Although I don’t own one.)

Note first my recommendation was “used”.

If a person is going to purchase a gun strictly for home defense it probably isn’t going to get shot a lot. You don’t need a high dollar weapon to just collect dust in the corner.


45 posted on 09/24/2012 6:57:21 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: Kartographer

Ruger P95 9mm luger 15 rnd. clip


46 posted on 09/24/2012 6:59:57 PM PDT by Paul46360
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To: Kartographer

Without getting into the specifics of the model...watch the ads for Big5. Their buying power suggests over time they will have a great price on whatever you decide.


47 posted on 09/24/2012 7:00:32 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
Why do you recommend a single-shot?

As a hunter safety instructor I've spent a lot of time on the range with a lot of women and teenagers, and they all seem to find a pump action much easier to understand and handle safely than a break-open open-hammer single shot.

48 posted on 09/24/2012 7:00:49 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (OVERTHROW OBAMA!)
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To: Mr. K

Several years back I got on a thread about the best gun for home protection....the overwhelming concensus for a female was a remington 870, 20 gage. I got the youth size it was much more comfortble to handle than a full adult size....females have a tendency to have shorter arms...Pump action holds 5 shells...spent the summer with my son in law teaching me to handle it....its pretty easy gun to use...

I tried several shotguns at the shop and liked this one the best also....freepers know their guns, than God.....


49 posted on 09/24/2012 7:00:55 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: varmintman

I sure like Beretta shotguns, in fact I used a Beretta (maybe model 330 just can’t recall for sure) when I was teaching skeet at Southern Miss.

The school supplied 870 pumps for those who did not have their own gun.

BTW, everyone thinks pumps are more reliable but that is not true. They might be mechanically more reliable but I have seen too many students short shuck a pump that it is not the most reliable in actual use.

My 1200 Defender has a 3 inch chamber but I think having an extra shell in the mag is more important in a home defense gun than the slight extra power of a 3 inch.

Also different brands of shells vary quite a bit in length either in 2 3/4 and 3 inch.


50 posted on 09/24/2012 7:01:34 PM PDT by yarddog
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