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So, who got screwed worse by Schwarzenegger: Maria or California?
one man's opinion....

Posted on 10/02/2012 7:36:33 AM PDT by ken5050

I've pretty much ignored anything and everything to do with Ah-nuld, especially his latest round of public mea culpas to promote his book ( and attempt to restart his movie career.) He's a buffoon. But this morning, with Fox&Friends on in the background, as usual..I caught some of his interview with Gretchen Carlson ( and did you see the way she was glaring at him...hoo-boy!!) and Brian Kilmead. Which prompts the question..


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When asked about California's economic and fiscal problems, Arnold pooh-pooed them.."other countries have it much worse than California..California won't need a bail out...every Governor, including Reagan, raised taxes.." yada yada yada. I was disgusted.

Boy, did he fool all of us. We thought he was the voice of sanity when he first announced he was running. What a disappointment. And California is going down the toilet, and much of the blame can be laid at his feet. Instead of standing up and fighting the Dems..he caved...

Which leads to the obvious question...Who got screwed over worse..Maria or California?

1 posted on 10/02/2012 7:36:39 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050

>>>Who got screwed over worse..Maria or California?
California.


2 posted on 10/02/2012 7:41:57 AM PDT by jennychase
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To: ken5050

Arnold told very good lies. Only the best of us, not including me, had him pegged. It turns out we would have been better off voting for McCLintock, win or lose, or sticking with Davis. What a horror of a human being and governor.


3 posted on 10/02/2012 7:44:24 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: ken5050

He destroyed the CA GOP and delivered the state back to Jerry Brown and the ultra-Stalinist Democrat Left on a silver platter (even as the rest of the country turned to the GOP in 2010).


4 posted on 10/02/2012 7:45:57 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: ken5050

Both...


5 posted on 10/02/2012 7:46:15 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: pogo101

Bingo, and to think I got excoriated by the Ah-nold sycophants around here and had my FR account suspended twice for exposing that fraud 9 years ago (and supporting McClintock). Still boils my blood.


6 posted on 10/02/2012 7:47:48 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: ken5050

Well, WE know the maid did ,for sure......


7 posted on 10/02/2012 7:48:19 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: ken5050

Ahnowed iss an equal opportunity phuquer .. they both got it.


8 posted on 10/02/2012 7:48:41 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: ken5050

Maria is personal.
California is political.
The two are not comparable.


9 posted on 10/02/2012 7:53:18 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: ken5050

I think Maria would have liked to have been screwed as well as California (or her Maid).


10 posted on 10/02/2012 7:56:21 AM PDT by montag813
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To: pogo101; fieldmarshaldj
On Drudge Radio at the time, before the election, Drudge went bonkers against Arnold one Sunday.

Not being close to Kali, I thought it was overkill, but it quickly became obvious that Drudge knew what he was ranting against before the election.

11 posted on 10/02/2012 7:57:11 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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Maria was in it for the glory of being California’s first lady.

No one really believes she found out everything the day he was removed from office.

She is a typical Kennedy.


12 posted on 10/02/2012 7:58:58 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: ken5050

Does anyone believe for a moment that he loved Maria?? Ridiculous...he’s low life...


13 posted on 10/02/2012 7:58:58 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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The man was in bed with the Kennedys. He wanted his offspring (at least the legitimate ones) to be of Kennedy DNA. His use of women made him a perfect Kennedy in-law, being just like one of the boys.

That was a red flag like the one the SOL waved shortly before 911.

California is Arnold’s Oldsmobile. Californians, you are Mary Jo.


14 posted on 10/02/2012 8:09:56 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: ken5050

The Kennedy’s have been screwing this country for years. At least Ahhhhh-nold was screwing one of them for once.


15 posted on 10/02/2012 8:10:57 AM PDT by jrg
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To: pogo101

I admit being initially wrong (although I wised up pretty quickly once Ahnold was in office). My thinking was that CA was so hopelessly liberal that having someone “fiscally conservative but socially liberal” would probably be acceptable as the best the state could muster. So I was okay with it, observing as an outsider.

But the lesson I quickly learned through this case (and several others of similar ilk) in all these intervening years is that any politician who claims to be “fiscally conservative but socially liberal” cannot be trusted an inch. They ALWAYS turn out to be fiscally liberal as well, despite their protests. And very often a degenerate piece of filth to boot, like Ahnold proved to be.


16 posted on 10/02/2012 8:13:01 AM PDT by greene66
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To: ken5050

The Kalifornicator screwed her but they both screwed Kalifornia.


17 posted on 10/02/2012 8:14:45 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Venturer
It has never been a secret that Ahnold has been a womanizer from the time he first began having success in body building. He supported himself by sponging off of one woman after another when he arrived in the United States and more often than not several at a time. It is hard to believe that Maria did not know his history. I doubt whether in his heart Ahnold feels there is anything wrong with having multiple sex partners.
18 posted on 10/02/2012 8:16:29 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: ken5050

I didn’t see the F & F interview. But I did see the idiot on Hannity last night. Sean was pathetic, trying his best to lead Arnold into conservative responses to the questions, but Arnold just couldn’t do it. He said he hadn’t decided who to vote for in the presidential election and would wait to see the debates. Hannity never even called him on it.


19 posted on 10/02/2012 8:18:51 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Don't be afraid to see what you see. (Ronald Reagan))
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To: ken5050

Well, California got screwed worse in the sense that the effects are more immediately applicable to the general American. California’s mounting debt will mean more taxpayer money to keep bailing out the state as the economy keeps going down the tank.

Then there’s Maria, which for the sake of whatever is sacred, I hope this Arnold seriously confesses and repents about what he has done, if he has not done so already, simply because without repentance, an adulterer cannot inherit the kingdom of God.


20 posted on 10/02/2012 8:19:29 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: ken5050
Boy, did he fool all of us.

All of us Kimosabe? You might want to go back and check posts on FR at the time. It was clear CA was on a fast track to financial disaster and that only a new, more conservative Legislature could possibly save the state.

There were those of us who argued it would be better to let a Democrat governor take the well-deserved blame for that inevitable train wreck. Instead, folks here naively bought into the Austrian socialist's Hollywood Terminator persona. They somehow overlooked the glaring fact he was married to a Kennedy, was blinded by political ambition and was probably the country's most notable RINO.

Expecting a vestige of political sanity in a state populated with voters stupid enough to elect Jerry Brown not just once but twice is probably hopeless anyhow. But I suppose it's not as bad as a country that's poised to re-elect a man who will destroy its founding principles and will become its dictator.

21 posted on 10/02/2012 8:19:52 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: fireman15

Well, there are times when I wonder why plenty of wealthy politicians who have sex and kids with multiple women at once don’t bother also supporting polygamy. I guess that’s because they have this special privilege of being wealthy that makes them better than everyone else.


22 posted on 10/02/2012 8:21:50 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: ken5050

Boy, did he fool all of us. We thought he was the voice of sanity when he first announced he was running. What a disappointment. And California is going down the toilet, and much of the blame can be laid at his feet. Instead of standing up and fighting the Dems..he caved...

I wasn’t fascinated with Arnold as a candidate for governor: I was disgusted by it. I was bothered by the prospect of someone with an ego as big as Arnold’s having what it takes to be Governor of California, and doing better at addressing the state’s deficit budget. I was among those who advocated even out of state, not to try taking Arnold up as governor.

I appreciate and understand sarcasm as you sound like that in your post, but the whole recall election thing just to get some big-shot into office was just disturbing, to say the least.


23 posted on 10/02/2012 8:27:15 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: fieldmarshaldj

He destroyed the CA GOP and delivered the state back to Jerry Brown

BINGO


24 posted on 10/02/2012 8:28:38 AM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: ken5050

Who would want to read his stupid book?


25 posted on 10/02/2012 8:36:36 AM PDT by mom.mom
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To: Morpheus2009

Polygamy laws would require that the men financially support their multiple wives and children.

Why would men getting free milk support laws requiring them to buy (and feed) the cows?


26 posted on 10/02/2012 8:46:55 AM PDT by Valpal1
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To: ken5050; pogo101; fieldmarshaldj; greene66; Bernard Marx; Morpheus2009
I blame california voters as much as arnold. Remember the special election with prop 73, 74, 76 and 77 that would have done things like limit union spending, cut tenure, redistricted, etc... Those were defeated big time which basically left him powerless and humiliated with a psychopathic democratic legislature. I feel like at that point he just said whatever, screw California and the maid...

BTW - here is a great throwback free republic thread from the special election - timely given all the talk now about polls. "Don't believe the lies: Schwarzenegger's Propositions all winning" As user Giobruno said in the first message "They'd better or you can kiss fiscal solvency in CA for the next 25 years goodbye." They all lost by large margins.

PS: McClintock is obviously a 1000 times better person.

27 posted on 10/02/2012 8:58:22 AM PDT by MrShoop
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Kind of silly to blame it all on Arnold.

The legislature is in control of spending, and anyway most CA spending is designated for specific purposes by initiatives, etc. Even the legislature can’t impact the direction the state is headed much without repealing a bunch of laws that would immediately cause a whole bunch of lawsuits.

He could have done a great deal more to rally the people behind what needed to be done, the old bully pulpit, but simply by using his powers as governor he could not have made much difference.


28 posted on 10/02/2012 9:12:17 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: fireman15
It has never been a secret that Arnold has been a womanizer from the time he first began having success in body building. He supported himself by sponging off of one woman after another when he arrived in the United States and more often than not several at a time

Arnold has always had a ton of women groupies around him in the early days...there are a ton of pics out there with him and naked women in the weight room..


29 posted on 10/02/2012 9:33:16 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: pogo101

I feel like an idiot! Gray Davis was horrible and was ruining the state. I really believed Arnold could turn things around and actually went to his “coming out” party in San Diego when he officially started his campaign. To make matters worse, I also thanked my Congressman, Darrell Issa, for stepping down and backing Arnold. Boy, was I fooled!


30 posted on 10/02/2012 9:36:22 AM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: jennychase

Yep, Maria was behind pushing the anti-girly man to wed gays.


31 posted on 10/02/2012 9:50:17 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: ken5050

aRnoLD. step-child of the Bilderbergs. he could care less about Maria or California, it was all about him. He could care less who he skrewed on his way to the top.. or is it, the bottom?


32 posted on 10/02/2012 9:53:56 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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Most men would be corrupted by the sexual “opportunities” Arnold has been presented with. The problem is many of us thought that his sexual corruption wouldn’t carry over to his family and political activities. We thought he had already “sown his wild oats”. We should have realized that political power would corrupt him as easily as his sexual opportunities did.


33 posted on 10/02/2012 10:39:47 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: trailhkr1

Most men would be corrupted by the sexual “opportunities” Arnold has been presented with. The problem is many of us thought that his sexual corruption wouldn’t carry over to his family and political activities. We thought he had already “sown his wild oats”. We should have realized that political power would corrupt him as easily as his sexual opportunities did.


34 posted on 10/02/2012 10:39:47 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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“Why would men getting free milk support laws requiring them to buy (and feed) the cows?”

And there you said it, a perfect demonstration of what is wrong with this country. It’s specifically because these individuals don’t want to have legal responsibility or liability for their relationships that they don’t bother. I don’t think we should have state-recognized polygamy, but I do feel that child support bills should apply should some guy reasonably test positive for being a father of some woman’s child. I doubt that politicians would support it, but at the same time, it’s a good idea.


35 posted on 10/02/2012 12:22:38 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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Current law does require child support of bastard children. Here’s the rub. The men have to have jobs and assets to pay support and those type of men generally aren’t the ones making babies with multiple partners.

It’s the gangbangers, thugs and the welfare class. The women don’t keep their knees together because they got Uncle Sam to support them and their get and they supplement that with whatever they can cajole out of the baby daddies.

Turn off the welfare spigot and a lot of problems will start to fix themselves.


36 posted on 10/02/2012 1:20:29 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: jennychase

All Three got shafted big time. I reject him and vow to not support any of his films and I hope Maria takes him to the bank and makes him a penniless—bit actor.


37 posted on 10/02/2012 1:39:53 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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