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Paul Ryan Has News For The Birthers: Hes Not One Of Them
TPM ^ | 10/5/2012

Posted on 10/06/2012 12:09:40 PM PDT by Kleon

Paul Ryan has figured out a way of letting the birthers down gently.

Like many of his fellow congressmen, Ryan has been bombarded for years with letters from conspiracy theorists who believe President Obama was somehow secretly born in Kenya and so is ineligible to be president. The missives began even before Ryan became one of the president’s biggest foes on budget issues and more recently as he joined the GOP ticket alongside MItt Romney.

But unlike some in his party who have been embarrassed by their own clunky and awkward responses to the birthers, Ryan has come up with an easy solution to deal with them.

He simply sends them a copy of the president’s birth certificate.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: 2012veep; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; moonbatbirthers; naturalborncitizen
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1 posted on 10/06/2012 12:09:44 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon

He’s another who checked his huevoes at the city limit of D.C.


2 posted on 10/06/2012 12:11:20 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Kleon

The whining on this thread will be fierce.


3 posted on 10/06/2012 12:16:54 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Kleon

The ruling elites obviously are counting on Obama being defeated in November so the whole eligibility issue can be swept under the rug.


4 posted on 10/06/2012 12:17:20 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: bgill

I’m glad he’s not getting side-tracked with this. History may present the full birth story eventually, but it is not Ryan’s job to deal with. He needs to make the positive case for Romney/Ryan, and show how bad another Obama four years would be.

Go Ryan!


5 posted on 10/06/2012 12:19:36 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Menehune56

There is no need for anything to be under any rug. There is no evidence that Obozo was born anywhere but Hawaii. The prevailing legal opinion is that a US citizen is either born or naturalized.


6 posted on 10/06/2012 12:23:27 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: married21

But think how much easier would it be just to disqualify someone who was never eligible for office. Why does that guy deserve to run again??


7 posted on 10/06/2012 12:23:53 PM PDT by edge919
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To: allmendream

The prevailing Constitutional requirement for president is to be a natural born citizen, not just a U.S. citizen, and especially not by simply being “born or naturalized.” It’s why the SCOTUS said the 14th amendment does NOT say who shall be natural-born citizens. There’s a material difference between these classes of citizens. Obama is not and cannot be eligible.


8 posted on 10/06/2012 12:26:16 PM PDT by edge919
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To: 1rudeboy

Looks like you decided to beat the rush.


9 posted on 10/06/2012 12:26:53 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I’m not sure if your comment qualifies as a whine, but it’s close.


10 posted on 10/06/2012 12:29:39 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: married21
Exactly! The truth will come out. People may be willing to lie and cover for a POTUS, but once he's just another ex-pres (and the pay-off checks stop coming) someone will sell the evidence. Right now, Ryan and Romney's job is to stay focused on jobs and the economy like a 20 million candle power spotlight.
11 posted on 10/06/2012 12:31:14 PM PDT by Casie
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To: Kleon
Yah, sure, Ryan should get himself involved in this side issue right before election.

I'm a semi-birther myself in that I think he was a foreign student of some kind, but if I were Ryan I'd send these politically-naive agitators who are bugging him a manual on how to win elections in modern-day America.

Leni

12 posted on 10/06/2012 12:38:02 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Kleon

i am a “birther”. i do not believe that he should have been president because his father was not a natural citizen. that made it for me, along with the fact that he had a book out that declared that he was a “kenyon”.

sorry, you can’t go on for years and then recant. you correct things immediately, unless you are hiding the truth.

his birth certificate is false. let the him defend it. \

i paid no attention to this in ‘08. i do now.

as far as i am concerned, he should have been vetted, should prove who he is, and at the least should provide his college transcripts and his admission papers.

Trump is right about this.’

Blessings, bobo


13 posted on 10/06/2012 12:38:43 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: MinuteGal

Ryan and Romney haven’t won anything yet. McCain certainly couldn’t beat Obama, so it’s rather naive to assume that one tactic will prevail over someone who is irrationally popular, when it would be Constitutionally correct simply to have Obam disqualified from office.


14 posted on 10/06/2012 12:40:46 PM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919

The Constitution describes only three types of US citizen. Currently one is either natural born or naturalized. There is no fourth category. Only naturalized citizens are barred from the Presidency.


15 posted on 10/06/2012 12:44:11 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: married21

Ryan should say it’s not the proper time for him to deal with this right now, but that it will be dealt with.

Hawaii state registrar Alvin Onaka has already confirmed that the HI birth record for Obama is not legally valid so no birth facts can be certified as the way the birth actually happened. And he has confirmed that the White House image is NOT “a true and accurate representation of the original record on file”.

Though the claims actually entered on the WH BC image “match” the claims on the HDOH record, the claims are NOT “identical” - presumably because the WH record leaves blank one or more items that contain actual content in the HDOH record.

The 2 items that were left blank on the WH image are mother’s mailing address and evidence submitted for late and altered BC’s. And the HDOH has already indirectly confirmed that Obama amended his BC in late 2006 or January of 2007, and former OIP Director Paul Tsukiyama has indirectly confirmed that there are affidavits filed to support the claims on Obama’s BC - which would not be necessary if it was a routine Kapiolani birth that was reported, as the BC now claims.

The 1960-64 birth index has been proven to contain at least 2 name from non-valid BC’s, so Obama’s presence on that index says nothing about the legal validity of his record.

Fukino’s statement never verified that Obama WAS born in Hawaii - only that she had seen the vital records (plural) verifying that Obama was born in Hawaii. That is referring to the affidavits that Tsukiyama confirmed exist - affidavits “verify” (swear to) a claim. The word that Onaka used when referring to what the official record claims was “indicating”; he did not say that the birth certificate “verifies” a Honolulu birth.

So there is nothing that Hawaii officials have brought forth which refutes Onaka’s disclosures. Indeed, his disclosure fits very well with what Gov Abercrombie said to his friend Mike Evans.

The truth needs to get out there, but not by Ryan or Romney. Still, R&R should simply say that it will be dealt with in its proper time.


16 posted on 10/06/2012 12:49:44 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: allmendream

The SCOTUS said the definition of NBC is found OUTSIDE of the Constitution. It’s why they said the 14th amendment does NOT say who shall be natural-born citizens. The SCOTUS acknowledged at least four different types of citizens, if not more in the Minor decision. Read it. While the 14th amendment contemplates two types of citizenship, it doesn’t describe every way of becoming a citizen. The requirement for president is NBC, and only those persons who are born in the country to citizen parents meet this requirement. The court was very clear.


17 posted on 10/06/2012 12:50:02 PM PDT by edge919
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To: allmendream

agreed. Much more evidence shows a a Hawaii birth than any alternative. There is question around the birth certificate, no doubt, and there are a TON of questions about Obama’s life. Whether it is in his education, career or upbringing. At this stage it is not enough to sidetrack what is important in November 2012.

The only thing that might be of interest from an election standpoint would be his college funding. If he did lie about being a foreigner for either entry or funding, that is a legitimate character issue and one that would impact many voters. Unless there is clear cut, inarguable evidence, I wouldn’t even go there.


18 posted on 10/06/2012 12:53:11 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Kleon
Obama Lawyer Admits Forgery but disregards “image” as Indication of Obama’s Ineligibility Damage Control - Tea Party Tribune

Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.

19 posted on 10/06/2012 12:53:40 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Kleon

No one’s perfect. . .


20 posted on 10/06/2012 1:04:03 PM PDT by cricket
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