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VANITY: Freeper input invited re purchase of new (used) work truck
Vanity ^ | 10-13-2012 | Vanity

Posted on 10/13/2012 8:10:16 AM PDT by OKSooner

Nowhere on earth better for well-informed input, so this is the deal...

My valiant old 1993 F250, 4.9l, is blowing oil out the main seal and is being expected to perform way past its limits pulling my big (17') landscape trailer.

So, I'm trying to do some diligence on a new (used) truck. Here's what I'm thinking...

Gotta be under $10k, even less if possible. Don't mind if it's ugly so long as it works.

If 3/4 ton, 4wd is preferred. (A risky proposition, I know, but I gotta stay within certain parameters.) If 1 ton, rwd is okay.

Need to get some kinda gas mileage, considering the application. What that means to me is no fat block gassers, i.e. Ford 460, Dodge V10, et al... unless I can steal one...

Which takes us to the diesels... My impression is that the Cummins diesel is the M1 rifle of the diesel truck world. An object made by man and thus fallible, but the best bet overall.

The many different diesels that Ford has offered since I test drove a 7.3l diesel back in 1979 or whenever... I've just heard and read some different things that make me leery of them.

I don't know much about diesels except they don't have spark plugs, they ignite by compression, they burn diesel fuel, and they're often turbocharged. That's it. :)

The GM/Chevy diesels, I know little about and have less interest. (They're called duramax or something like that, aren't they? Not that it really matters.)

So - who has an opinion about a direction to look in for a reliable truck with good traction to pull my landscape trailer around town and UPHILL AT THE LEAF DUMP, and also to drive around in the snow?

Just as a starting point, I've spied the following:

1998 Dodge 3500, rwd, 240k miles, cummins diesel, some kinda redneck exhaust pipe sticking up behind the cab on the passenger side, no other known modifications. Looks like it's been taken care of other than the stupid pipe up behind the cab.

1998 Dodge 3500, 4wd, 150k miles, 5.9l v8 gasser, in good shape the best I can tell.


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A hypothetical point for sure, but informed freeper opinions invited. Anyone know of any sleepers out there to look for, like an old Ford (what year(s)?) with the original Navistar 7.3l diesel? TIA
1 posted on 10/13/2012 8:10:27 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Red Badger

Ping to you for starters. :)


2 posted on 10/13/2012 8:11:26 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner

I don’t think you’ll find a truck like you need for $10 thousand. Worn out or nearly so, maybe.
Avoid Dodge at all costs.


3 posted on 10/13/2012 8:14:54 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I know I’m asking for a lot but I’ve gotta do something. :)


4 posted on 10/13/2012 8:20:03 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner

for $10K you can’t put a new engine in your truck, and even rebuild the trans?


5 posted on 10/13/2012 8:23:00 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: OKSooner

I am a Silverado owner both the 8.1 vortec whith its awesom power plus another with the Duramax 6.6 of which I have a ton of respect for. Not a fan at all of the Intl. 7.3 though the Cummins in the Dodge is good the truck itself is poor designed. I am a diesel mechanic of over 30 years.Ford is the most reliable, Chevy more comforts, Dodge can be the bargain but is a mechanics nightmare. My personal suggestion is the Silverado 3500 dually with the 8.1 and 4wd, what I drive. Its gas but easiest to maintain.


6 posted on 10/13/2012 8:24:03 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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To: Excellence

Yes, I could, but it’d still be straining to pull that big trailer, and probably getting stuck again at the dump.


7 posted on 10/13/2012 8:25:28 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner

Also, at least at one point, Ford was offering lifetime warranties on dealership work. Let Ford rebuild your truck and you are set for life.


8 posted on 10/13/2012 8:26:01 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: OKSooner
You did not mention the rest of the motor.

is it using oil? What is the compression readings in the cylinders?

The rear main seal is cheap. labor costs to get to it, which can be negotiated to done your self.

There are many shops that will replace that seal for a fraction of what a new or used truck costs.

Bottom line, how is the rest of the vehicle?

9 posted on 10/13/2012 8:27:54 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: OKSooner

We are a Dodge family. Son has a 92 Dodge dually 4X4 diesel for his landscape business. In it’s previous life it was our farm truck, towing horse trailers and hay trailers. It will move a mountain if necessary.

Hubby has 99 Dodge 2500 4X4 diesel. It is our current farm truck, towes 4 horse trailer, hay trailer, dump trailer with no problem. If we need to pull the tractor on a trailer somewhere it will do it.

My vote would be an older Dodge diesel but they are hard to find. The ones after 2002 and for several years I think have problems. I’d have to ask my son what they are/were.

My step-son has a new Dodge truck(2012)gas that he loves.


10 posted on 10/13/2012 8:28:05 AM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: OKSooner
Dodge 3/4 ton diesel 4x4, and you will forget you've got that 17’ trailer behind you.

I've forgotten I had a 32’ trailer with a backhoe on it.

11 posted on 10/13/2012 8:29:04 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: OKSooner

You might want to check out the county sheriff’s offices in your area, a lot of them run auctions on vehicles. Check other auto auctions for repossed vehicles.
There are also dealer auctions, so if you know a car dealer - pay him to take you. I used to know a car dealer here in NY, he took me to auctions and I bought 2 cars at those auctions at about 60% of retail book value.


12 posted on 10/13/2012 8:30:52 AM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: OKSooner

The Cummins is solid, but the Dodge trucks, not so much.

The 7.3 Ford/Navistar engine is likewise solid, but avoid the 6.0. Some people say the 6.4 is OK...I dunno. The trucks are good.

The Duramax is a very good engine. The trucks are OK.

I ended up buying a newer Chevy recently, and I have no real complaints other then the typical GM dash noises. I would rather have bought a Ford, but I don’t trust the engines from the model years I was looking at.


13 posted on 10/13/2012 8:32:31 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: OKSooner

So what you have now is not 4wd? Ah, I get it.


14 posted on 10/13/2012 8:33:22 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: OKSooner

Email The Magic Mechanic (Larry Perry): http://www.magicmechanic.net/

bttt


15 posted on 10/13/2012 8:33:24 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ( ‘An Armed Man is a Citizen – A Disarmed Man is a Subject’ ~ Allen West)
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To: OKSooner

...consider rebuilding the motor, and looking around for a new lighter alumimmmmmmm trailer


16 posted on 10/13/2012 8:37:26 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: OKSooner

I think you can find a three or four year old Ford diesel for low $20’s. If you buy a junker, you’ll make up the difference in the first few repair bills.


17 posted on 10/13/2012 8:41:01 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: OKSooner
Dropped a new engine in my 95 F150 4x4 for under $5,000. Runs like a charm.
18 posted on 10/13/2012 8:42:50 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: OKSooner; All
To be clear: Current truck, good as it is, isn't up to pulling 17' trailer every day. Also it's rwd with a 4.10 OPEN DIFFERENTIAL and I've gotten stuck in it twice.

My choices are to either come up with another truck or go out of business.

19 posted on 10/13/2012 8:50:23 AM PDT by OKSooner
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If the body is still in good shape, get a replacement engine with a warranty. Probably would last a lot longer than a used truck for the same cost.


20 posted on 10/13/2012 8:54:21 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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