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That Honey You Just Bought Might Not Really Be Honey (76% of all supermarket Honey is fake)
Yahoo News ^ | 11/8/2011 | Yahoo News

Posted on 10/19/2012 5:01:39 PM PDT by Dallas59

First we find out that we're getting ripped off in the fish department. Now, a new study commissioned by Food Safety News shows that most of the honey on supermarket shelves isn't really honey.

More than 60 types of honey from several major supermarkets, drug stores, and shopping clubs--including Stop and Shop, Safeway, Wegman's,A&P, Kroger, CVS, Walgreens, Sam's Club, and Walmart--were tested by Vaughn Bryant, a professor at Texas A&M University. He found that most of them had all of the pollen filtered out. Without any pollen, it's impossible to figure out whether the honey came from a safe source, or whether it's even actual honey at all; much of the ultra-filtered honey may come from China, may be contaminated, or may be diluted with High Fructose Corn Syrup.

(Excerpt) Read more at shine.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: china; fake; fakehoney; honey
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1 posted on 10/19/2012 5:01:44 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

I’ve got a bee keeper right down the road and his honey is the real deal.


2 posted on 10/19/2012 5:04:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Dallas59
Authentic trustworthy honey is what neighbors and farmers' markets are for.
3 posted on 10/19/2012 5:05:11 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Dallas59

I buy from a local beekeeper. He even has the Fall Wildflower, darker with a deeper flavor. My favorite.


4 posted on 10/19/2012 5:08:43 PM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: Dallas59

Even Ray Liotta honey?


5 posted on 10/19/2012 5:10:14 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Dallas59

‘Real’ locally produced honey is $10 to $15 a qt.

Sure is good though...


6 posted on 10/19/2012 5:12:26 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Dallas59

Honey is best purchased from a local source.


7 posted on 10/19/2012 5:14:41 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Dallas59

that’s why I went to Whole Foods and got Manuka honey from New Zealand - 100% the real deal - nothing else smells or tastes like it.


8 posted on 10/19/2012 5:18:54 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Dallas59

I get mine at the farmers market. It’s local and real


9 posted on 10/19/2012 5:19:13 PM PDT by Figment
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To: cripplecreek

Here is an article with more information:

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/11/tests-show-most-store-honey-isnt-honey/

The article states there is only one reason to remove the pollen and that is to hide the source. If we aren’t testing it anyway, why bother?


10 posted on 10/19/2012 5:22:21 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: Steely Tom

Is Honey Boo Boo real?


11 posted on 10/19/2012 5:22:56 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Dallas59

We have a honey wagon that comes around weekly.


12 posted on 10/19/2012 5:23:12 PM PDT by Starstruck (Looking into the abyss.)
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To: Dallas59

So is this the Honey Boo Boo I have been hearing about as of late?


13 posted on 10/19/2012 5:23:58 PM PDT by al baby (“If Barack Obama has a Harvard law degree, he didn’t earn that. Somebody else made that happen.”)
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To: Starstruck

seriously? that’s cool!

where you living? Walton’s Mtn?


14 posted on 10/19/2012 5:38:36 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Dallas59; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

My honey was fake. Thankfully, we are divorced now.


15 posted on 10/19/2012 5:42:59 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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Here’s a list of Comb Honey suppliers by state, city.

http://www.honeylocator.com/locator/find/comb-honey/


16 posted on 10/19/2012 5:43:45 PM PDT by deport
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To: Dallas59

The title from Yahoo reads: “That Honey You Just Bought Might Not Really Be Honey”

So who added the false 76% statement?

The Yahoo news piece was the pimping of Food Safty News for a few honey producers and nothing more.


17 posted on 10/19/2012 5:43:52 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: cripplecreek

Me too and that’s where I’ll get it from here on out.


18 posted on 10/19/2012 5:44:38 PM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Dallas59

There is a store that opened near me that calls itself the Honey Shop. It is owned by some Middle Eastern guys. I stepped in and axed if they had Tupelo honey. They never heard of Van Morrison.


19 posted on 10/19/2012 5:44:45 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Dallas59

The “honey” you get at KFC for your biscuits contains less than 7% real honey.


20 posted on 10/19/2012 5:45:59 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Starstruck

That’s funny. We used to dump our planes urinals in the “honey wagon” at Kamh Rhan Bay.


21 posted on 10/19/2012 5:47:35 PM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: cripplecreek

Dittos 4 miles down the road is some of the best honey i ever had right from the hive fresh spun glistening gold sweetness ...

I don’t see how you could fake honey with fructose corn syrup unless you’ve never tasted honey before ...


22 posted on 10/19/2012 5:48:03 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: Dallas59

Don’t buy honey from a supermarket period.


23 posted on 10/19/2012 5:50:23 PM PDT by BipolarBob (G Orwell was an optimist it seems.)
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To: Dallas59

This probably does not apply to honey, but I’ll mention it anyway. The report said that the produce at farmer’s markets (which is much more expensive than at the local supermarket, I have found) is often lower quality than the produce that these same farmers sell to wholesalers (and which ends up in supermarkets) because the farmers have discovered that the dumbed up public thinks that veggies and fruits that don’t look perfect are more authentic.


24 posted on 10/19/2012 5:50:33 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Dallas59
So, honey keeps longer with the pollen removed, so we can't prove it's honey if there is no pollen, so it's all fake because we can't prove it isn't. BS.

I just bought two small “bear” bottles of Kroger Pure Clover Honey. Looking at the bottle, it says “Pure Clover Honey”, “Grade A, Product of USA”.

This is part of my prepper supplies and I want honey with the longest life which is, without pollen it lasts forever.

This article is extremely misleading.

25 posted on 10/19/2012 5:50:56 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: Revolting cat!
There is a store that opened near me that calls itself the Honey Shop. It is owned by some Middle Eastern guys. I stepped in and axed if they had Tupelo honey. They never heard of Van Morrison.

Not much of a Honey Shop, is it?

26 posted on 10/19/2012 5:51:31 PM PDT by dfwgator (World Series bound and picking up steam, GO GET 'EM,TIGERS!)
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To: Dallas59

They might be selling fake ketchup too


27 posted on 10/19/2012 5:51:32 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Dallas59

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/hundreds-counterfeit-heinz-ketchup-bottles-discovered-jersey/story?id=17511614#.UIH1LHaiJ4E


28 posted on 10/19/2012 5:53:03 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
They might be selling fake ketchup too

"Real tomato ketchup, Eddie?"

"Nothing but the best!"

29 posted on 10/19/2012 5:53:12 PM PDT by dfwgator (World Series bound and picking up steam, GO GET 'EM,TIGERS!)
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To: TurboZamboni

It was a joke. I just remember the honey wagons when I was stationed in Germany back in the sixties.


30 posted on 10/19/2012 5:57:02 PM PDT by Starstruck (Looking into the abyss.)
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To: al baby
I prefer Honey West, myself


31 posted on 10/19/2012 5:59:57 PM PDT by dfwgator (World Series bound and picking up steam, GO GET 'EM,TIGERS!)
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To: SueRae
Buckwheat honey is hard to mistake ~ but Karo syrup is good fer' ye, man and beast!

One of the difficult to detect tricks is the use of wheat flout in honey, maple syrup, sorghum (for what reason I have no idea ~ maybe trying to trick Ethiopians or something), or various sorts of candy. Properly processed it has most of the characteristics of un-refined sugar and can "pass" ~

32 posted on 10/19/2012 6:01:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Dallas59

I bought some fried chicken and a biscuit several years ago and put honey on them. Something was wrong. I looked at the ingredients on the honey packet, and it was honey flavored syrup.


33 posted on 10/19/2012 6:02:08 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Dallas59

I do not believe it is impossible to tell the difference by chemical testing between honey and corn syrup.


34 posted on 10/19/2012 6:03:53 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Marcella
So, honey keeps longer with the pollen removed, so we can't prove it's honey if there is no pollen, so it's all fake because we can't prove it isn't. BS.

It all depends on what is is (thank you mr clinton) Doing some research it may be that honey doesn't crystallize as much with the pollen removed. Many people think honey is bad when crystallized and don't realize all you have to do is put in boiling water to change it back to liquid form. But how many of us would buy crystallized honey from the store so it does extend market life, but not useful life?
35 posted on 10/19/2012 6:07:39 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: Marcella

re: So, honey keeps longer with the pollen removed, so we can’t prove it’s honey if there is no pollen, so it’s all fake because we can’t prove it isn’t. BS.

My take on it as well.


36 posted on 10/19/2012 6:08:28 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: muawiyah

Wheat flour would make the honey unsuitable for my gluten intolerant innards.


37 posted on 10/19/2012 6:08:40 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Dallas59

Bee sure to bee really careful about that.


38 posted on 10/19/2012 6:12:38 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: Nevadan

Actually some good information from NPR of all places:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2011/11/25/142659547/relax-folks-it-really-is-honey-after-all


39 posted on 10/19/2012 6:13:28 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: Dallas59

Anybody know about Trader Joe’s brand Clover Honey?


40 posted on 10/19/2012 6:16:42 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PeterPrinciple

So the next step in fraudulent honey is to add in pollen to make it look real...

I wish I lived in the NC mountains - sourwood honey. Tupelo honey is real good too, as is tulip poplar. Thyme honey = cough syrup.


41 posted on 10/19/2012 6:17:00 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: Starstruck

We have a honey wagon that comes around weekly.”

In the olden days it was the milkman who came once a week to visit the lady next door.


42 posted on 10/19/2012 6:19:59 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Myrddin

Mine too ~ so I never eat anything with honey in it, on it, around it, or underneath it unless I bought the honey from a reliable, known vendor ~ e.g. Safeway or Giant ~ and you know exactly how I came to understand their reliability.


43 posted on 10/19/2012 6:20:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: PapaNew

I’ve read that Trader Joe’s was one of the few places that could be counted on to have pollen in its honey. Our local TJ doesn’t carry clover honey, only Mexican mesquite.


44 posted on 10/19/2012 6:20:16 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: Afterguard
dump our planes urinals in the “honey wagon”

Think they used to call them the "honey buckets".

45 posted on 10/19/2012 6:25:15 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Dallas59

There was a president who allowed Chinese honey into the USA for $.50, when US wholesale average was $1.15. The Commerce Department also eased up on inspections, so you wouldn’t know if the “honey” was real or if it had pesticide residue in it. Eventually the shenanigans got to be too eggregious and a special tax was put on honey sourced from China (about 12 years ago iirc), so China switched tactics.

Chinese processors hyperfilter the pollen out, so you can’t determine the source, then add HFCS, color, and sometimes flavor. Then they unload a lot of “honey” in, say, Chile, where it will sit in a warehouse for a year then be relabeled as Chilean or Paraguayan, then into the USA. Even if we inspect it, we can’t discover the origin, and since HFCS has almost the same sugar profile as honey, they often can’t see the adulteration.

Meanwhile US beekeepers are plagued with new bee diseases and parasites.

Without live bees, we’ll take a productivity drop of at least 50% due to lack of proper pollination.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2245&dat=19940426&id=598zAAAAIBAJ&sjid=TTIHAAAAIBAJ&pg=6506,7487708

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2531925/posts


46 posted on 10/19/2012 6:27:03 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Dallas59
or may be diluted with High Fructose Corn Syrup.

Not surprising at all, since Honey is natures HFCS.

47 posted on 10/19/2012 6:27:22 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: Dallas59

HFCS gives me a sore throat. Some honeys do and some don’t. I can believe they’re diluted.


48 posted on 10/19/2012 6:28:29 PM PDT by Ellendra (http://www.ustrendy.com/ellendra-nauriel/portfolio/18423/concealed-couture/)
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To: Dallas59

I’m even suspicious of venders selling honey at farmers markets, probably most of it you can tell whether it is the real thing by the taste but you never really know, they might of bought an imported 50 gallon drum of honey from China and filled their own jars up with it with their own phony labels.


49 posted on 10/19/2012 6:31:50 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: Dallas59

Would be nice to know what manufacturers brand they are.


50 posted on 10/19/2012 6:32:07 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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