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TROUBLE WITH THE FR SITE?
October 25, 2012 | ME

Posted on 10/25/2012 9:35:59 AM PDT by SMARTY

I am having a hard time with the FR site. It has been this way for a couple days.

It's slow, herky jerky and I get a lot of 'document not found' and 'error'.

What's going on? I can't do without FR during the election!


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1 posted on 10/25/2012 9:36:00 AM PDT by SMARTY
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To: SMARTY

Daily poll results posted nine times a day in Breaking News.

Duplicate threads.

The servers are straining. We won’t be on line on election night. I guarantee it.


2 posted on 10/25/2012 9:38:41 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR: Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: SMARTY

Correct observation. FR operation is very viscous lately.


3 posted on 10/25/2012 9:39:36 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SMARTY

uh oh... you better get ready... all the folks are gonna ask you how much you give to the FR-eep- a-thons.


4 posted on 10/25/2012 9:39:47 AM PDT by stevecmd
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Running very slow posting comments.


5 posted on 10/25/2012 9:40:18 AM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: SMARTY

There is something going on that involves more than FR. It has been terribly slow and often cannot connect. But I play card games on MSN Games, too, and lately it has been incredibly slow.


6 posted on 10/25/2012 9:40:50 AM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: SMARTY

Yep. I suspect database issues.


7 posted on 10/25/2012 9:41:13 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: SMARTY
We are at two weeks left and counting.

 

Hope you enjoyed your ride.

8 posted on 10/25/2012 9:44:23 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: advertising guy

Need your *reasons why* info here, ping...


9 posted on 10/25/2012 9:45:18 AM PDT by carriage_hill ("0bummer's a towering figure" - even a Garden Gnome casts a long shadow at sunset.)
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To: SMARTY

ditto, you better make alternative plans for election night, I have

My whole internet access is running poorly and unreliably

I wondered if it was affecting others

Red Dawn coming?


10 posted on 10/25/2012 9:46:59 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: SMARTY

It takes about 20 seconds just to finish a click-through on a link. Even longer to post and half the time an error page. Perhaps the DHS is siphoning posts into their database and running interference on the site. Hmmmmm..


11 posted on 10/25/2012 9:47:08 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: SMARTY

It’s the network. NTT cannot handle the traffic. It bottlenecks more often than not lately.


12 posted on 10/25/2012 9:48:39 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: SMARTY

experiencing same...


13 posted on 10/25/2012 9:49:10 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: carriage_hill

I’m out......Jim wrot in 3 instances that he ain’t got a clue....John will not talk to Jim and John refuses outside IT types

when you refuse to carry a tire wrench changin 4 flats is tough


14 posted on 10/25/2012 9:50:06 AM PDT by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
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To: silverleaf
You might not be kidding.

Make sure your car is full of gas before the election just in case.. Also make sure car has room for 'bug out boxes' which you've prepared in advance for getting the heck 'out of dodge' if need be.

We're all going to have to pray deeply this election. It's do or die for America. One of the most critical moments in America's history.

15 posted on 10/25/2012 9:52:18 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: SMARTY

Me tOO...

THe leTTERs KEep GettING ScreWED uP....

BUt..

Once I set my beebers to stune, it was all roses again...


16 posted on 10/25/2012 9:52:43 AM PDT by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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To: SMARTY

It’s not traffic - plenty of server. I don’t know what the problem is but there is one for me too.


17 posted on 10/25/2012 9:52:54 AM PDT by Principled (Vote Romney to stop Obama. Vote for conservative Reps and Senators to stop Romney. [ZET 7/30/12])
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To: silverleaf

My internet connection is fine, whether it’s using the internet, or live-streaming on my Roku. The only site I have had problems accessing since the first debate is FR. I’ve switched to Firefox to access FR, but I’m still getting “document can’t be found” messages from time to time, and when refreshing, pages hang or time out. Election night will be a nightmare. I don’t use Twitter, Facebook, etc., so if I can’t access FR, then I’ll go without until it comes back up.


18 posted on 10/25/2012 9:55:23 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Responsibility2nd
NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!

Really? I didn't know that.

19 posted on 10/25/2012 9:58:31 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Ditto. It’s sloooooooowwwwww. Even now.


20 posted on 10/25/2012 9:59:37 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: SMARTY

They want us to give money but won’t buy the servers to fix the problems, so I don’t know why I should give any money.

Solving this issue is not tough.


21 posted on 10/25/2012 10:02:01 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: SMARTY

With a name like yours we were kinda looking for answers from you..../S


22 posted on 10/25/2012 10:02:40 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: luvbach1

Yup....and has been for every debate, which makes me have FR withdrawals!


23 posted on 10/25/2012 10:03:27 AM PDT by txmissy
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To: econjack

And I didn’t know soup was dumb.

But if your read my posts, you’ll know why libertarians and liberals are all alike.

If I read your posts, will I know why soup is dumb?


24 posted on 10/25/2012 10:03:52 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: arrogantsob

FR is in real trouble with no signs of resolution in sight. No change will eventually deliver no hope.

BUT, you are so right! To a lesser degree there are problems happening elsewhere on popular sites for our side. It behaves like a virus on my internet but it isn’t so as you say something, may be sun flares, but something IS going on.

I get better connections to lighter traffic sites, so capacity must be enormously strained. Every soul is online all the time.


25 posted on 10/25/2012 10:03:54 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY)
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To: stevecmd

“gonna ask you how much you give to the FR-eep- a-thons”

AS IF I would make that public information... duhhh


26 posted on 10/25/2012 10:08:49 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: advertising guy

I think they gave Jim Thompson a job temporarily while they left town for vacation.


27 posted on 10/25/2012 10:09:57 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SMARTY

I’ve been getting “Failure to Connect to Web Server” messages since Monday. I have to hit the refresh button 3 or 4 times now before it will connect. I am having no problems with other sites.


28 posted on 10/25/2012 10:12:20 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: Principled

A years or so previous, when FR was having similar sluggishness, JohnRob discovered it was something with some coding (the program). Once he corrected that, FR was loading rapidly.

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If it is the increased activity during live events, I wonder whether they could create a ‘sub’ program.

During a major live event, traffic is directed to a sub location. Users could still post reference links to the existing FR database, however, those links would not necessarily be available for immediate opening.

Save the postings in the live event thread.

At the conclusion (say, 24 hours after the event), merge the ‘sub’ live thread with the main FR database for archiving and future reference.

==

Whatever the problem is, they need to resolve it. They are losing users. FR is a product, and it is currently a poor quality product.


29 posted on 10/25/2012 10:17:34 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

You waited only 20 seconds? I just waited 90 for this click through! Sometimes I wait 2 minutes and still get a “cannot display web page” screen.
I have been having the same problems for the last two weeks and this is a new comouter.
I am very frustrated. Earlier in the day, say 7am, it isn’t as bad.


30 posted on 10/25/2012 10:19:26 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Don’t forget the significant number of FReepers, who, knowing the site is busy and running slowly, post one line vanities such as “OMG, I saw Biden pick his nose just now !!1!1!1,” and the other group, seeing the above, post vanities wondering if FR is running slowly due to a DOS attack.


31 posted on 10/25/2012 10:19:27 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

You waited only 20 seconds? I just waited 90 for this click through! Sometimes I wait 2 minutes and still get a “cannot display web page” screen.
I have been having the same problems for the last two weeks and this is a new comouter.
I am very frustrated. Earlier in the day, say 7am, it isn’t as bad.
I’m still waiting for this comment to post, although I clicked post three minutes ago.


32 posted on 10/25/2012 10:22:23 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: SMARTY; Jim Robinson

For what it’s worth department. As you can see Jim has addressed the issues but the problem/solution isn’t defined.

Pinging Jim for his info:


Per Jim Robinson on Tuesday, Oct. 23....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2948878/posts?page=130#130

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Well, I’m very sorry about the slowdowns on the big traffic days but none of the above applies. We have a server system that we have built up over the years which has for the most part worked fine. There was no scientific study done to find out how much capacity we needed. We started on a leased server and all worked well for a couple years. When that ran out of steam we purchased two new servers and moved to another provider. Then a couple years later outgrew that and added a couple more servers. We continued adding or replacing servers every couple years until we had about a dozen of them and it became pretty complicated keeping it all up and running. Over the last few years more powerful servers have become available, so John has installed some of those and has taken some of the older failure prone servers out of service. I think we’re now down to about a half dozen servers and he’s moved to something called “virtual server,” I’m guessing to make it more manageable.

We simply do not have the financial wherewithal to hire a “professional staff.” I have 40 years of programming and software project management experience myself (mostly financial accounting systems on now antiquated DEC VAX mini-computers), but I’m not a hardware or systems software tech. John is. And he has 25 years experience providing tech services (built and operated his first online bbs system when he was 14). And he has done an outstanding job of building FR during the last fifteen years or so mostly by himself with no “professional” management or any staff whatsoever. He’s also rewritten all of my old software and added many more functions than I originally had. He also handles all of the hardware/software system maintenance and all other systems and programming tasks and systems security. He’s basically a one man shop.

But it does look like we’ve hit a major stumbling block and it is killing us. I had asked John a couple years ago what it would take to replace the entire hardware system with newer servers. He guessed at that time that we could probably replace the bulk of it for $15,000 or so. So last year when we were have so many crashes I decided that maybe we should tackle at least part of the task and decided to try to raise $12,000 by adding half of it to out first quarter’s fundraising goal and the other half to the second quarter. All went well the first quarter and we raised $6,000 for equipment (still sitting in the bank) but the second quarter I got so many complaints about our increased budget and accusations that I was ripping off the donors that I finally said the hell with it and cancelled the equipment portion of the fundraiser so we never brought in the second half. In fact we’ve reduced our second two quarterly fundraisers from our normal base a bit and decided to cut back where we could.

Unfortunately, I guess I jumped the gun on new hardware. Apparently John was not ready to tackle expanding or replacing the hardware yet. He’s still wrestling with systems software problems that would still be there even if he added more equipment.

And it’s not about ROI. We just haven’t solved the problem yet. The moment John discovers the problem and decides on the solution, we will purchase the equipment, change providers, go to “Cloud” or whatever the solution calls for. FR is far from being dead or irrelevant. As long as people yearn to be free, God willing, we will be here.

John is my partner. The hardware and systems software is his domain. I know absolutely nothing about either. I cannot order him around and I cannot offer him anything other than advice that is probably mostly irrelevant and I know he’s tired of me harping on him every day. It’s getting to the point that he doesn’t want to talk to me. He also has some difficult problems in his personal life right now that are taking a toll on him. Even so, I have complete confidence in his abilities to get the job done. He’s managed to solve all of our technical problems in the past and I’m sure he’ll get this one fixed too. I’m just praying that he gets it fixed before Nov 6. If not, it’s going to be hell around here for awhile.

By the way, Free Republic on facebook worked fairly well last night as a standby site. But there’s no place like home.

Prayers up.

P.S. If John does not use the $6,000 we have sitting in the bank for equipment we can either return it to the donors or reduce future freepathon goals or possibly just hold it in reserve. If what ails us doesn’t kill us, we will be growing again soon.

*****

and from this thread a few days earlier......

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2943599/posts?page=136#136

No excuses, no denials. The system is failing under peak loads. Don’t know why yet. I thought we might be able to solve it by beefing up the servers and the RAM, and raised $6,000 to do so, but guess John does not agree. He’s wrestling with some systems configuration problems at the moment and has not yet found the solution. Unfortunately, I cannot help him with these issues as they’re way over my abilities. I’ve asked him if bringing in a consultant will help, but he appears reluctant to do so. I’ve also asked him to come on to a thread to post the status and answer questions, but so far he hasn’t wanted to do that either. Hopefully he will eventually find the problem. Sorry about the slowdowns during the debates and praying we get it fixed soon. If we end up not needing the $6,000, I will offer to return it to the donors. But I’m still thinking we need to beef up the hardware.

end snip

and here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2945771/posts?page=259#259

and here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2943561/posts?page=1169#1169


33 posted on 10/25/2012 10:23:25 AM PDT by deport
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To: SMARTY

Actual screenshot from a few moments ago...

TROUBLE WITH THE FR SITE?
10/25/2012 10:17:34 AM PDT · 29 of 29
TomGuy to Principled
DENIED! Allred Strikes Out, David Corn Weeps
10/25/2012 10:17:21 AM PDT · 60 of 60
Mrs. Frogjerk to robowombat
DENIED! Allred Strikes Out, David Corn Weeps (UPDATE: Allred,”The Globe ‘double-crossed’ me!”)
10/25/2012 10:17:19 AM PDT · 11 of 11
arrogantsob to jmstein7


34 posted on 10/25/2012 10:24:09 AM PDT by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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To: Principled

Load balancing and the pipes are too small.


35 posted on 10/25/2012 10:25:59 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SMARTY

http://www.internettrafficreport.com/


36 posted on 10/25/2012 10:26:13 AM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: SMARTY

the website needs a real expert to fix the problem.

Whoever is in charge is obviously in over their head and in denial about it.


37 posted on 10/25/2012 10:26:13 AM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: stevecmd

I always give $100.00 every FReepathon and lately I have been giving $150.00. I am going to send in another $50.00 next week to match the $100.00 I gave already during this FReepathon. FR has problems... it acts at times just like it did on the debate nights. I do not know where the problem lies but we certainly have problems.

LLS


38 posted on 10/25/2012 10:27:43 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: advertising guy
Jim wrot in 3 instances that he ain’t got a clue....John will not talk to Jim and John refuses outside IT types
when you refuse to carry a tire wrench changin 4 flats is tough

Jim's been upfront about the problems, I'll certainly give him that. But having the entire site rest on the shoulders of one person is dangerous as hell. And it looks like that will continue for awhile yet. See these links for details:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2948878/posts?page=130#130

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2948878/posts?page=182#182

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2948878/posts?page=201#201

And this is the scary part:

Well, I’m very sorry but for good reason John has security locked down tight on FR’s hardware and software. I do not even have access myself and I’m senior partner. Appreciate the offers very much, but I can tell you from experience that there’s no way he’s going to allow anyone into the secure environment.

39 posted on 10/25/2012 10:31:22 AM PDT by CedarDave (Presstitutes: Journalists who refuse to ask hard questions and who report by omission or distortion)
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To: Responsibility2nd
If I read your posts, will I know why soup is dumb?

Probably not. I was just hoping for a quick explanation.

40 posted on 10/25/2012 10:32:07 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: SMARTY

reminds me of a ‘Valley Forge moment’ for FR..

It separates the sunshine posters and lolligaggin’ ol’ coots from the yodelers and oarsmen amongst us..

Hang in there..


41 posted on 10/25/2012 10:32:37 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: arrogantsob

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/freerepublic.com+wattsupwiththat.com+drudgereport.com+msnbc.com#


42 posted on 10/25/2012 10:33:25 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SMARTY

Things are no better at Lucianne.com. On the days of the dates both sites are impossible to get through to. I suspect it is the traffic volume. Sites like drudge, breitbart, and theblaze have absolutely no problem. I am concluding it is a server capacity issue.


43 posted on 10/25/2012 10:39:33 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: rockrr
"Yep. I suspect database issues."

I suspect denial of service attacks from cowardly democrats who are afraid of even letting FR discuss the elections.

44 posted on 10/25/2012 10:39:58 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: djf

I have noticed that the time stamps on the threads are sometimes hours off. I hit refresh they comeback fine. My guess would be they are experiencing multple issues.

I wonder how they manage (load balance) the web farm. The provider, NTT, is certainly part of the problem if I was Jim or John I would want to know why they are consistantly running around 80ms latency. Their network connectivity should be much better than that , unless of course they are on very limited bandwidth (T-1 or less).

I ran test against their domain name on dnsstuff.com. The results revealed that they are have some name resolution issue’s. This could definitlely be contributing to the terrible user experience.

At this point I would offer my services for free to help out and have extensive experience.

All they have to do is ask. send me a private email.

Brian


45 posted on 10/25/2012 10:42:43 AM PDT by bbernard
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To: advertising guy

I finally put some bucks together to donate, but after all that’s happened and all I’ve read about this ‘mess’, I’m just going to use it to pay bills here on the Farm. Very, very disappointing to see it GTH, just since I got here in March.


46 posted on 10/25/2012 10:45:13 AM PDT by carriage_hill ("0bummer's a towering figure" - even a Garden Gnome casts a long shadow at sunset.)
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To: silverleaf
My whole internet access is running poorly and unreliably

Me too. Not just FR. Any site and I keep losing my stream to iheart radio. Rarely happens here.

47 posted on 10/25/2012 10:45:31 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: econjack

Probably not. I was just hoping for a quick explanation.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There’s NOTHING quick going on around the FR ranch today. As you well know. But let me rant on about libertarians for a little bit if I may.

Libertarians are socially liberal. That means they are pro-dope, pro-porn, pro abortion, pro-gay marriage and so on. If it’s not expressly mentioned in the Constitution: then it’s not their business to support laws against these “personal freedoms”, no matter how egregious and harmful they are to our nation.

Libertarians are a sad lot as they are unwanted by the Democrats and the Republicans. And the fact they look to “leaders” like Gary Johnson and Ron Paul explains it all.


48 posted on 10/25/2012 10:47:08 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: arrogantsob
Not having any problems, here:


49 posted on 10/25/2012 10:52:17 AM PDT by carriage_hill ("0bummer's a towering figure" - even a Garden Gnome casts a long shadow at sunset.)
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To: SMARTY

It’s not just FR. I’m having trouble with sites all over the net.


50 posted on 10/25/2012 10:53:06 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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