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To: Alamo-Girl; TXnMA; MHGinTN
I suspect some scientific observers prefer to associate everything mind related to a physical brain simply because they cannot physically measure the mind, soul or spirit. Thus they call the mind an epiphenomenon, a secondary phenomenon which cannot cause anything to happen.

So does this happy little notion of the physical scientists mean that "brains" cause wars, commit murders, rape, pillage, "ethnic cleansings," etc.?

To say that the "brain" is really what does everything really lets me off the hook for moral responsibility for anything I might willy-nilly choose to do — I can blame anything and everything I do on my "brain."

Good grief!!! I guess this would mean that I cannot let my "brain" wander outside my own house, lest it cause harm to others!!!

I honestly think that people who actually believe such things are just totally NUTZ. The world does not entirely reduce to "measurements." Indeed, probably the most significant part of it is "immeasurable" in principle.

Sorry for the snit I'm having right now.... I just cannot stand nonsense like this....

To say which does not detract in the least from the admiration I have for your wonderful essay/post, my dearest sister in Christ! Thank you so very much for your telling observations!

26 posted on 11/04/2012 12:18:36 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop; MHGinTN; TXnMA
So does this happy little notion of the physical scientists mean that "brains" cause wars, commit murders, rape, pillage, "ethnic cleansings," etc.?

That is exactly what the notion means. If they'd think about it rationally, surely they'd realize how absurd it is.

Even some mathematicians believe they will someday create artificial intelligence capable of qualia (can be experienced but not conveyed such as love-hate pain-pleasure) because, after all, if the physical brain can produce qualia then so can a machine. LOLOL!

Thank you oh so very much for your insights, dearest sister in Christ, and for your encouragements!

27 posted on 11/04/2012 7:48:29 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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