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[Channel] 2 Investigates: Nearly 100 dogs shot by metro police since 2010 [Atlanta]
WSBTV (Atlanta) ^ | October 30, 2012 | Erin Coleman

Posted on 10/30/2012 9:57:38 PM PDT by Altariel

ATLANTA —

A Channel 2 Action News investigation found nearly 100 cases of local officers shooting dogs within the past two years.

The investigation looked into the heartbreaking circumstances when a police officer kills a family pet -- probably one of the most difficult scenarios for a pet owner and for police.

Nearly two years after Basil was shot and killed in an empty lot by Fulton County Marshals, Elizabeth and Carey Cullifer said they still feel every bit of the pain.

"She was a really kind and gentle dog," said Elizabeth Cullifer.

She left their 45-pound dog outside alone for a moment. Marshals then came to their address with a civil lawsuit for someone who had not lived there in eight years.

Then Cullifer heard gunshots.

"I came out to see my dog in a pool of blood under the truck," said Carey Cullifer.

It is a story Channel 2 Action News has heard over and over from pet owners whose dogs had been shot and killed by police.

A Channel 2 Action News investigation uncovered dozens of cases all over the metro area. Individual department records show since 2010, dogs were shot 25 times in Atlanta, 32 times in DeKalb county, 19 times in Gwinnett County, 10 times in Clayton County and eight times in Cobb County, including the most recent shooting this past September.

"I had to watch him bleed to death and gasp for air and they just stood there looking at me like I was stupid," a Cobb County man said.

Cobb County officers responding to an alarm call shot and killed Luke, a chocolate lab when he ran out of the home barking. It was a false alarm.

The officer said he felt threatened by the dog and was cleared by the department of any wrongdoing.

In fact, every single case found in multiple departments, the officer was exonerated.

"There isn't an officer out there I know that wants to shoot a dog, any animal!" said Kliff Grimes a national representative for the International Brotherhood of Police Officers.

Grimes told Channel 2 that every day officers encounter dogs, some of them vicious.

"That officer unfortunately has to make a split-second decision to protect himself so that he can go home to his family," said Grimes.

When it comes to making that decision, Channel 2 only found one metro area department that requires officers to have training, specifically on how to respond to dogs. Cobb County started its training just this year.

"Even if the officer is trained to deal with the dog, the dog isn't trained to deal with the officer," said Grimes.

"I think it would be a help. It would be information that's certainly valuable," said Cyndy Dougan a dog trainer for 22 years.

Dougan is an expert on dog behavior and she says the issue is not black and white.

"I tell people even though you think you know how your dog is going to react in a situation where the police are called to the scene you may not be correct about that," said Dougan.

Elizabeth Cullifer said in her case she knows Basil was not aggressive and she believes officer training is key.

"With training there would be some accountability. There is no accountability in the situation with us. It was like he felt threatened, he shot your dog. That's it," she said.

Animal behavior experts tell Channel 2 knowing animal behavior is everything in these types of situations. A dog that appears to be aggressive may really just be nervous.

Dougan showed Channel 2's Erin Coleman how dogs at her kennel would respond to Coleman, a stranger. After letting several of the dogs go, one by one, unrestrained out into the yard.

"It's going to be a surprise to them that we're even here," said Dougan.

Some dogs did not pay attention to Coleman during the experiment, others started barking right away, running for her.

"Sometimes tail high and wagging isn't really a good sign. Didn't that scare you?" Dougan asked Coleman.

"A little bit," said Coleman.

"A little bit, I saw you jump. If you push this dog hard enough, this dog would be dangerous," said Dougan.

Another dog approached Coleman, "He's running away, he did not approach us, that is good," said Coleman.

Dougan said knowing animal behavior is key. For years the U.S. Postal Service has trained its mail carriers on dealing with dogs. Georgia Power meter readers also receive some training.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: assholecop; dog; doggieping; donutwatch; policestate; rapeofliberty; warondogs

1 posted on 10/30/2012 9:57:44 PM PDT by Altariel
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To: Altariel

Union members.

Solid union members.


2 posted on 10/30/2012 10:03:00 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I know what it is to be Black,to be hated for who I am, more so than Whoppi does. I'm a Republican.)
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To: Altariel

Worth repeating.

“In fact, every single case found in multiple departments, the officer was exonerated. “


3 posted on 10/30/2012 10:03:44 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Could we have a breakdown on how many US police officers now are muslims, who hate dogs?

Dark number. Maybe big dark number.


4 posted on 10/30/2012 10:06:39 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Altariel

The new “War on Puppies” may explain all the huge ammo purchases the Gooberment and all of their various SWAT Teams has recently made...

(Just a weird aside ... Remember in the Movie “Terminator” it was Dogs that could tell the difference between reg folks and the Enemy)

TT


5 posted on 10/30/2012 10:14:38 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: Altariel
Dougan said knowing animal behavior is key.

True. Getting their badge numbers is important, too.

6 posted on 10/30/2012 10:17:28 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: TexasTransplant
Indeed, which is why, in that series, the terminators would kill dogs that 'alerted" the human resistance to their presence.

For instance, one of the tip offs that the T-1000 is the "bad Terminator" is that it kills John Connor's dog.


7 posted on 10/30/2012 10:18:24 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Hardraade

No idea how many are Muslims, but an increasing number of them are going “terminator” on family dogs lately.


8 posted on 10/30/2012 10:20:29 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel
Can there be any doubt that this is a sport within their national brotherhood? Or a requirement for admittance? Dollars to doughnuts says a close examination of the animals would reveal evidence of trophy taking.


9 posted on 10/30/2012 10:30:40 PM PDT by I see my hands (Dictators don't lose, you do.)
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To: Altariel

When I was growing up we had a German Shepard that was just the biggest playful lug of a pup with just about everyone... except with a couple of people (un-related in any way) that no matter what we said... quiet... settle down etc... he would growl bare his teeth, get between us and the person and be aggressive when ever either one of them were around... he was years ahead of their future ... they were proved to be no good.

All in all it says something good about people, in all of his 11 years there were only 2 people that Rex didn’t like.

TT


10 posted on 10/30/2012 10:34:23 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: Altariel

From what I’ve seen - in real life - dogs tend to sense and dislike muslims.

I’m sure the dislike is mutual.


11 posted on 10/30/2012 10:50:42 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Altariel

In this same time frame did any postal workers or meter readers shoot any dogs? And I’ll bet meter readers come into contact with a lot more dogs than cops do. In fact, they probably come into contact with more dogs than they come into contact with cops. The cops are eatin’ donuts and hangin’ out at pawn shops.


12 posted on 10/30/2012 11:03:17 PM PDT by Terry Mross (To former friends and relatives. Don't ever contact me if you still support obama.)
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To: Terry Mross

Just read your Tagline ... do what I did, close your Facebook Account

The number of snarky Family and Friends was reduced by 50% immediately. Loan requests decreased by almost 100% at the same time.

Win Win

TT


13 posted on 10/30/2012 11:25:44 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: Hardraade
What evidence to you have that dog shootings by police have anything to do with muslims?

If you have some evidence, then present it. Otherwise, it's just a diversion.

14 posted on 10/31/2012 12:02:34 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H; et al

This crap will continue until a few of the boys in blue hit an IED enroute to the domestic violence/see the woman/welfare check call. Purely at random and widespread. Just a thought.


15 posted on 10/31/2012 12:04:30 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (That Kenyan muzzy bastard is not my president. ENFORCE the Bill of Rights.)
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To: Ken H

None whatsoever. I’m saying it’s a dark number. Look up statistics on islamic population and “extrapolation”.

Or was this something one is not supposed to talk about?


16 posted on 10/31/2012 12:52:45 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Hardraade

I hear a lot of times the police squads on their midnight drug busts hit the wrong or innocent house and kill their dog. The SWAT members don’t bat an eye, and I don’t think the innocents that lost their dogs are given any compensation. Certainly none for pain and suffering. It’s not about the police and prison unions. End the drug laws and quit paying these thugs overtime to go on their dog killing raids. Police are here to protect us, not to arrest us for victimless crimes, kill our dogs, and cost taxpayers often over 100k a year with a huge pension obligation. Pointless, when people would bend over backwards to work for a third of that. Insane.


17 posted on 10/31/2012 1:38:04 AM PDT by Hokestuk
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To: Hokestuk

Well, i’ve started a little pokearund on police and islam.

Islam IS getting into the ranks. It’s probably possible to find numbers.

here’s one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoNZT-bqwNE


18 posted on 10/31/2012 1:48:36 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Hardraade

I believe it. The libs are going to do double affirmative action to go out of their way to get the muslims into our police forces. Sad, scary actually. When are we going to bring the fight to the leftist forces of political correctness?


19 posted on 10/31/2012 2:05:56 AM PDT by Hokestuk
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To: Altariel

20 posted on 10/31/2012 2:09:38 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Altariel
"I tell people even though you think you know how your dog is going to react in a situation where the police are called to the scene you may not be correct about that," said Dougan.

How useful is a dog that is trained to treat a man who may be busting in with force in plain clothes at the wrong address with submission and deference?

I watch old episodes of Dragnet. They didn't have Miranda yet, but boy did they know their legal restrictions and take them seriously.
21 posted on 10/31/2012 3:32:03 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Terry Mross

No shootings by postal workers or meter readers that I’m aware of. (But then, I’m not aware of any Atlanta meter readers or postal workers which carry a service firearm. )

Still disturbing that out of nearly 100 cases, the police were exonerated on *all* of them.


22 posted on 10/31/2012 6:22:35 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: TexasTransplant

I closed the FB a long time ago. By then the only “friends” I had on there were either conservative or non-political or smart enough to keep their mouths shut.


23 posted on 10/31/2012 7:17:39 AM PDT by Terry Mross (To former friends and relatives. Don't ever contact me if you still support obama.)
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