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Anybody else have the feeling we've been "played?-and other thoughts musings (Vanity) Very long one.
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Posted on 11/07/2012 5:44:53 AM PST by Pajamajan

Why do I have a vague sense that I've been "played" once again?- As was the case in 2008-when McCain "didn't quite" make it to the winners circle.

Romney was much better than McCain at campaigning-but to be honest- the whole time- it just always felt like "something was missing" from their (Romney/Ryan) efortts- Like they were holding back for some reason.

Add to this the bizzare coverage of Fox news (calling state after state for O before even 1% of the vote was recorded exc..), and it looked like "the fix was in".

The question is: Why?
Maybe to collapse our dollar so Soros and Co. can make another 18 billion? Who knows.

All I know is that I'm done with the republican party. If conservatives are smart-they will be done with it too. No conservative will ever be "allowed" to run in an election.

I think we are past the point where elections matter now -we never do anything about corruption at the polls anyway.

The USA has been betrayed by greedy, selfish , power-mad people at the highest levels of our government, and by a lazy, shallow, ignorant, populace out to take everything it can get for itself-no matter what the consequences are. ( I don't think we can turn this around. God Help us.

And while I think great darkness is coming, it doesn't change who we are- for those of us who remember who we are.

We are Americans.

The Constitution is still the most inspired document for government ever written.

It is the answer.

The marxists and socialists will continue to try and destroy it .

It's up to us to pass it on to as many people as will listen, and maybe some day our Republic will be restored, by the grace of God.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: doom; gloom; marxist; misery
I keep reading about how all the minorities voted for Obama.

Why?

Do they think he's going to give them stuff?

All O and Company are going to do is turn this once great nation into a poverty stricken third world country-just like the ones they (minorities) came here to escape from.

And where will you run to when that happens-when you're living by the side of the road in a cardboard box, because the corrupt politicians you voted for, spent your country into oblivion? (while of course-lining their own pockets, and waving at you from the windows of their limousines)

But it's really our politicians fault for being too "scared" to talk about what it means, or, meant, to be an American.

What did they think was going to happen when they just let anyone in here without requiring that they know anything about this nation and what it stood for?

They voted for the people who promised them free stuff.

It also breaks my heart to know that nothing will ever be done about Benghazi now. Why? Because of sniveling, greedy cowards at the highest levels in our government, and the pentagon. It will be swept under the rug.

To the families who lost their sons in Benghazi- I honor their brave sacrifices-what they did to try and save the lives of others. They will not be forgotten.

And I apologize for the callous way you were treated by our scheming, lying, corrupt, politicians.

Please pray for Israel.

I'm just having trouble wrapping my mind around what a massive disaster this election has been, and how horrible the consequences are going to be.

I keep thinking about all the years-year after year- that we have complained about corruption at the polling places-but our representatives can't even come up with a fight for requiring voter ID-they can barely make the case for it. Maybe we should just ALL register as democrats?

We need good people to represent us-we have such useless people in DC now. Pray for our nation. God have Mercy on us. Sorry for the long rant-It's my $210.10 cents.

The long national nightmare continues.

1 posted on 11/07/2012 5:45:01 AM PST by Pajamajan
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To: Pajamajan

I want to see the numbers breakdown.

I wasn’t expecting a landslide.

But by my calculations, Obama Ben Ghazi should have lost most of the independents and a lot of those who were high on the messianic hopium.

If his numbers were anywhere near 2008, massive voter fraud is a certainty.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 5:46:53 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

What blows my mind is turnout was WAY down from McCain/Palin. I thought Romney was a much better candidate than McCain, far from perfect, but how people could not be more fired up than 2008 is completely beyond my understanding.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 5:52:59 AM PST by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: Pajamajan

No....
Take it from someone who was actively involved in the campaign, as a volunteer.

These people REALLY had their act together. They knew on Election Morning who had voted, and who hadn’t, and were trying to get those folks out. Project ORCA was a smashing success.

The problem was we were facing an ENEMY MEDIA, that has thrown any objectivity into the trash.

Joseph Goebbells didn’t have such a compliant media to use. The MEDIA disqualified Romney in the sheeple’s eyes. They told the Hispanics, and women, that Obama would TAKE CARE OF THEM, and that Romney would let them starve.

FREE CHEESE WINS!, FREE CHEESE WINS!

I think I’ll gits me an Obamaphone, and just join the stupid, begging for handouts.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 5:54:00 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Pajamajan
As was the case in 2008-when McCain "didn't quite" make it to the winners circle.

You start your entire conspiracy theory off with a falsehood. Where are you getting the bizarre idea McCain "didn't quite make it to the winners circle"? He and Palin got blown out. They lost by 7 points. It wasn't even remotely close.

I keep reading about how all the minorities voted for Obama.

Yes, it's pretty simple really. The growth in population is almost entirely coming from Hispanics. There are more and more Hispanics and other minorities living in the US. There are just not enough white people moving to the GOP fast enough to offset the massive growth of minorities who vote almost entirely for the Democrat party.

5 posted on 11/07/2012 5:54:38 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Pajamajan

Allen West lost too.
He was not conservative enough! He was a Rino Like Romney,
You dummies just don’t get it, Conservatism lost big, Look at all the Senators that lost.

If Romney ran as a real Rino, he would have won. But his hard stand on immigrates, planned parenthood lost him the election.

The kids on under 40 are libs forever and Godless.

Smell the roses, conservatism is over in America,

In a few years We all we be Californians.

Even gay marriage won last night.

Turn off the lights the party is over!


6 posted on 11/07/2012 5:56:02 AM PST by factmart
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

2008:

OBama 69,297,997
McCain: 59,597,520

2012

Obama: 54,773,837
Romney 53,716,689

Looks like a whole lot of voters stayed home.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 5:56:17 AM PST by DownInFlames
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To: Pajamajan
“I'm just having trouble wrapping my mind around what a massive disaster this election has been, and how horrible the consequences are going to be.”

I am too, Pajamajan, and the sad thing is, I can't do anything about it. I had such high hopes about Romney & Ryan bringing our economy out of the gutter, and I was seeing Ann Romney representing our country as a beautiful First Lady. May G_d help us.

8 posted on 11/07/2012 5:57:43 AM PST by Humal
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To: Pajamajan

The Kenyan bought himself a majority.

And we didn’t believe the polls.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 5:58:45 AM PST by y6162
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To: tcrlaf
-- I think I'll gits me an Obamaphone, and just join the stupid, begging for handouts. --

Slight adjustment. Don't beg. Demand it, as though you are entitled to it. It was promised, and now it's yours.

10 posted on 11/07/2012 6:01:32 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

....what was the clue....????..my estimation was the fact that no body seemed interested on how and why Senators and Congresscritters could inside trade on the economy with impunity.
The people who spend the money, control the laws in order to make money for themselves, WE finance the scheme. It’s all a game now, get caught corrupting the system, it depends on who your friends are and how much they were involved on whether or not your punished.
There will be no justice as we knew it, it will depend on how much YOU feed the system.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 6:04:09 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: DownInFlames

“Looks like a whole lot of voters stayed home.”

I don’t buy that. I think “we” came out in droves. It wasn’t enough to counter massive fraud. We’re aware of so much cheating. I figure that’s about 1% of the cheating that actually occurred.

The GOP governors in place for the last 2-4 years bear some responsibility for not amending states’ Election Codes. The GOP governers in place as of today could get pro-active and clean up the mess, but it’s doubtful that they will. Wouldn’t matter; it’s over for America.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 6:07:38 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: DownInFlames

What? Is that real? That is incomprehensible to me. If someone had told me two days ago that turnout for Obama would be 15 million less than last time, i would have predicted a landslide up and down the ticket for Republicans.

And with all the opportunity to vote early? Why would turnout be so low? I don’t get it.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 6:07:49 AM PST by Humbug
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To: DownInFlames

What was the difference if you stayed home and did not vote verses going all out for “the team” and voting. Apparently a win.

The question will be whom stayed home and why. Whatever the answer, the result is not going to change. The good guys lost and we are not coming back from this.

As far as the GOP goes, I am leaving. Don’t call, don’t write. Don’t worry, I am not going over to the dark side. I will just become an indy. We had it your way two cycles in a row and got beat. I am taking my marbles and going home.


14 posted on 11/07/2012 6:08:34 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: DownInFlames; West Texas Chuck

So the numbers can indicate that turnout for 2012 was much better for the GOP, but perhaps many of those votes were switched to the DNC (electronically, email, other fraud)?


15 posted on 11/07/2012 6:12:10 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Pajamajan
while of course-lining their own pockets, and waving at you from the windows of their limousines

If it comes to people living in cardboard boxes, any politician who rides around in a limousine is too stupid to live anyway and deserves the bullet he'll have lodged in his cranium.

16 posted on 11/07/2012 6:16:06 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 1)
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To: factmart

So what you’re saying, whether you realize it or not, is one of these two statements:

1. If you can’t beat them, join them.
2. If you can’t win with your true beliefs, hide your beliefs and win as a phony.

If libs truly voted out conservatives, I will NOT become a lib. I will become an even more outspoken conservative.

But most Americans are NOT liberal, they are center of right.

What we are seeing at the polls is the success of the government-run education system and the state-run media indoctrinating the voter with PC multiculturalism, moral relativism, and cultural decadence. This is being done in our schools, on television, in entertainment, and even from our pulpits. This has been a concerted effort by subversives for the past century.

They are succeeding and they are winning. It does not mean that it is just or that it is right.

Evil often wins.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 6:17:34 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Pajamajan

I believe the American people have been played and the “fix” was in on this election.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 6:31:37 AM PST by elephant
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To: Pajamajan

Even now, I can’t get my mind around what happened.

We had a candidate with momentum and gobs of money, and huge enthusiastic crowds everywhere he went. The polls favored him, and his internal polling HAD to be good since he never thought he would need a concession speech. So many “experts” assured us Ohio was in the bag, from the governor on down to people like Bill Cunningham, and the talking heads. Independents were supposedly breaking big for Romney. And turnout in Republican areas was huge. I stood in line yesterday for an hour and a half, when normally I just walk in, vote, and leave within five minutes.

So what happened? How could everyone and everything be wrong? It isn’t computing.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 6:41:31 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

After last night, I don’t think we can continue believing that America is a center-right country. Not any longer. The truth has slapped us upside the head. The nation is getting browner and will continue to do so, and it’s a fact that blacks and Hispanics will almost always vote Democrat.
Also, the schools have done a good job of brainwashing the young.


20 posted on 11/07/2012 6:49:08 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: Pajamajan

It’s called ignorance...and the have nots outnumbering the workers....the road to communism.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 6:52:18 AM PST by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: DownInFlames

The numbers don’t make sense....I’d say that a lot of Repub votes went the way of the dumpster.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 6:59:49 AM PST by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: DownInFlames

There are estimates that 40,000 military voters were unable to vote due to deliberate failure to provide them with absentee ballots in time. Failure attributable directly to the Obama Administration.

Polling numbers are dependent on the number of votes counted; not on the number of people who came to vote.
How many ballots were “tossed” some how?
Was there anyone actually counting the number of people who came to vote to compare with the number of votes counted? No.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 7:01:30 AM PST by Dr_Zinj
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
We lost. We need to evaluate why we lost.

You say “But most Americans are NOT liberal, they are center of right”.

You and I wish, but election results says that is not true.

Conservatives are outnumbered. We will never win an election if we continue playing within the system.

You say: “If you can’t win with your true beliefs, hide your beliefs and win as a phony”

I agree, but to do that means we will never win. We are outnumbered. We follow the laws and continue to let then take our hard earned money to further their agenda. The libs are great at hiding their beliefs, winning, and then going back to who they really are. You can stand for principle but it does you no good if it guarantees defeat.

We must look at the situation and make changes, or get use to doing what they want. Simple as that.

24 posted on 11/07/2012 7:14:13 AM PST by lynn4303
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To: Pajamajan

the time to make a difference was before we played it safe and went with romney in thee first place. we lost when we gave him the votes needed to win the nomination, and i said so back then, much to the chagrin to those who told me that i would vote for whomever the party trotted in front of me.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 7:16:21 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I think you’re right! I’m half hispanic and I can tell you that I have relatives in my mom’s family that CANNOT think for themselves and it’s sad. Between them and the black population who vote color (even if his/her name was Satan) and the ‘depression’ disabled potato chip eating, Coke drinking, Honey Boo Boo watching, waiting by the mailbox for my disability check white person; we seem to be HIGHLY outnumbered. Who wants to stand on their own two feet and work for something better, when they can get free Obama phones, have Medicaid pay for gastric bypass, welfare pay for baby showers, and food stamps pay for whatever they’re craving that day? My grandparents came here for a better life and my grandfather worked hard until he was in his 70’s. I’m thankful they aren’t alive to see this.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 7:26:51 AM PST by medtransemr01
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To: CatherineofAragon

Absolutely...that kept going through my head over and over last night...a completely sleepless night...how could people whose JOB it is to come close to an accurate prediction get it so hideously wrong?
Just stunning....


27 posted on 11/07/2012 9:11:18 AM PST by matginzac
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To: lynn4303

The battleground polls indicate otherwise, that the vast majority of Americans identify themselves as NOT liberal on both social/cultural and economic issues.

Our political leaders deny that truth and try to pass the lie.

We are being overrun by a loud, vocal, powerful, rich minority.

We need to stand our ground.

Becoming one of them is not victory. It is defeat.


28 posted on 11/08/2012 6:31:44 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

The Battleground Poll indicates that the vast majority of Americans do NOT identify themselves as liberal on the social/cultural and economic issues.

As I posted earlier, we are being overrun by a very loud, vocal, powerful, and rich minority. But they are the minority nonetheless.

The GOP establishment is a part of the problem. They are working with that minority to destroy true conservative candidates.

The voting results are NOT an accurate reflection of the true core beliefs of Americans. They reflect the selection of those that have been offered to us...what is left of the candidate pool after both the Left and their accomplices in the GOP establishment destroy the true conservatives.


29 posted on 11/08/2012 6:34:35 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: elephant

Ditto. Of course we have been played. This stuff is worked out far in advance.


30 posted on 11/09/2012 7:28:11 PM PST by SisterK (no compromises)
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