Skip to comments.WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 45 NOV 9, 2012
Posted on 11/09/2012 10:10:41 AM PST by greeneyes
The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.
This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you wont be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isnt asked.
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I have been getting the raised beds ready to plant winter wheat and winter rye. Now that we have had a real frost, it is time to plant the wheat.
Still eating ripe tomatoes off the salvaged vines from the tomato patch. Lemons are almost ripe. Will peek at the winter garden tomorrow to see what's happening outside.
Have a great weekend. God Bless.
In the spirit of division I just wanna say that gardeners are at fault for reelecting Obama.
You didn’t think gardeners were going to get a pass did you?
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It weren’t gardeners in Missouri. We be Red State proud. LOL
Sorry for the extra pings. I don’t know how that happened. I only clicked post one time - I swear.
I am not listening to any news today. I refuse to let anyone ruin my TGIF day and control my emotions.So I will change the subject.
This thread is my refuge, and Gardening can be a soothing hobby/activity.
Are you doing any gardening or garden planning?
Lovely gardening day here. About 50 degrees, mostly sunny. Just pulled up the last of my spaghetti squash and some leeks. Need to mulch leeks and carrots. Picking lots of chicory and greens.
Have a great day :-)
Tell me more about the chicory. What exactly are you harvesting and how are you using it?
This is the time of year for me to break file and sharpen my hoe and other tools and start constructing some new tomato cages.
My wife and I are also considering renting a small garden plot to grow sweet corn to sell at the farmers market (or its redneck equivalent a pick up off to the side of the highway) next year as a summer project. Does anyone have any recommendation for websites or books on how to undertake this. We are looking for details like how much yield to expect per acre and such. Any recmmondentation appreciated.
I’ve got a bhut jolokia that’s about 3” tall in a giant pot sitting in the (relatively warm) 70+ degree sunshine in my driveway. When it turns cold for good i’ve got a grow light system all ready for it in my garage. Plan on starting peppers and tomatoes sometime in the week after Christmas or so this year so they’re all big and ready to go when it’s warm enough. I’ll be able to add another 30X100 area to one of my gardens as well so I’m psyched. I’m using HPS for bulk seed for a few varieties of stuff this year including mariachi peppers, zavory peppers and flavorburst peppers. All family favorites.
Totally Tomatoes for most everything else and i’m currently loading up a cart on Jungseed’s sale page. Next up is Sandhill for heirloom species of ‘c. moschata’ winter squashes and pumpkins. That particular variety is pretty good wrt squash vine borer resistance as long as you let it run and root as it wants to...smallish order from baker creek too. Mainly some short day onions and upland rice seed. RH Shumway for some milo and millet to grow for my chickens. There are some ‘winter melon’ selections from baker creek too i’m thinking of growing later in the season and storing for the chickens to have treats in the fall/winter.
Chickens have been feasting on scallop squash for the past month. I deliberately let the last bunch of them set and get that shell exterior. They’ve been sitting in buckets on my back porch out of the sun for a couple months now. Every day or two I cut 2-3 of them up (they’re about 10-12” across) and throw them in the run. The girls love the seeds and the squash too. Next day all that will be left is small hulled out shell pieces. I managed to get 8-10 from each squash plant this way, not counting the squashes we’d gotten from the plants all summr. Definitely plant more scallop squashes for this next summer late.
Enjoying my tomato powder and garlic powder. Made my own garlic powder with my dehydrator and blender. There’s just no comparison with store bought. None. Neither with fresh onion powder. Hubby got a 50lb bag of onions at SAMS last week that’s next up in the queue. Going to give a pint jar of onion powder as Christmas gifts to family. That’ll be a bunch of onions!
The best use of the tomato powder so far was in some pulled pork. Added the powder in with a pork picnic in the crock pot when I started it. Then some onion powder and some fresh mushrooms and some jalapeno powder. Shredded the pork as it cooked and used that on sandwiches. Yum doesn’t even come close. The powder takes up way less space than the tomato paste I was using.
Have a bag of USA garlic waiting to plant out this weekend to overwinter. Going to start a couple flats of onions too.
it’s all good...
Our garden is long done except for some bunching onions and sage. We had a bumper crop of brandywine tomatoes. i’ve never seen that many brandwines before! They supposedly don’t bear much fruit per plant. I was going to take the remainder of the green ones off to wrap in newspapers but a hard freeze made them all into popsicles! AAARRRGH!! They never had a chance. At least I got some in the freezer and a number of quarts of canned before the freeze.
I’ll be putting my beds to sleep for the winter. Any suggestions of how to do that? Should I layer on straw? We layered grass clippings, mulched leaves and mulch on the tomato bed. I want to add to the rest of the raised beds as well, to get some nutrients working down into the soil.
It’s been winter here for some time, at my place, as it will be at yours. So here are some ideas of others combined with one of my own for covers for plants in late fall or early spring.
Some of us see high winds, so that’s also covered. The following is for lowering costs of tending larger covered gardens.
You’ve probably seen the greenhouse frames built with low-cost small-diameter electrical conduit—something that can be painted with latex for extra UV protection, BTW. Link those conduit hoops together (with tight loops around each one before proceeding to the next) and anchor them at the ends with barbless wire. In my area, barbless wire (no barbs) is about $60 per quarter mile roll at the ranch supply store and can be used for many seasons. Drill small holes in the conduit hoops, and use plenty of wire with small intervals between strands for a frame of greater strength. Stake down the ends if needed (at least two at about 45 degree angles from each end).
Small enough intervals to support the lower cost, thinner clear plastic sheeting for protection against early season cold. Store the plastic, when it isn’t needed. You might be able to use it another season.
And shade cloth, of course—generally much less expensive than plastic. Shade cloth over the frame described above will help to protect against high winds and hailstorms (hailstorms in mid-summer for me).
Hope that helps those of you in brutal climates like my own and others who want to extend their gardening seasons. I’d also like to see low-cost methods for covering plants from any of you willing to comment. Thanks for the gardening post and thread.
[I buy seeds from Missouri sometimes, BTW. ...heirloom seeds, because many of those are for short-season produce for climates like my own. They also help to cut seed costs. I can even keep and use seed potatoes for an extra season or two, because of the high altitude here: over 9,000 feet elev. No worries about fungi or other potato diseases.]
Do a search for your university extension office as a start.
How cold does it get during winter where you are?
I have been brainstorming how to have a lean-to green house on by lower patio next to the house. We have an all brick home, and the back faces southwest. The bricks absorb a lot of heat during the day.
However, I think I would still need a little heat during cloudy or extra cold winter days, and that has me a little stumped.
It’s windy in TX today and yesterday. Guess it’s the front coming in which is supposed to give us a freeze on Monday. It’s supposed to last through Thanksgiving.
Update on the green beans vs. deer. The beans lost. Hubby was taking out the trash a couple nights ago and nearly ran into a big boy having supper. I don’t want to mess with putting up an electric fence but I might have to next spring. I’ve already rearranged the plans for the spring planting but I might have to rework them again to get the beans onto another fence. It’s going to mess up my watering to do that but don’t know what else to do.
Maybe hubby can pee along the fence and that’ll stop the deer? Any ideas on that?
There’s a few little green tomatoes, some greens and of course lots of those ridiculously HOTTTTTTT jalapenoes. I’m throwing out those jalapeno seeds and finding another variety. I sprayed the fall squash but it didn’t help so they’re gone along with the fall cukes.
We can have unheated garages stay above freezing if opened/closed judiciously and a section of it protected with plastic tarp to keep cold drafts off the tender plants. Our dryer vents into the garage. Not a great idea in the summer but in the summer I usually hang the clothes out to dry. Heat in the deep south is FREE in the summer, danged if I’m gonna pay money to make my garage even HOTTER in August. In January if I run the dryer once a day it’s usually enough, combined with the deep freezers out there, to keep the garage fairly toasty (always above 50 even if the outside temps are in the 20’s at night).
Maybe put the lean to on the outside of your house near where you’ve got a fireplace or somewhere you can vent a dryer? Maybe pave it with concrete block tiles that are darker in color to absorb more heat?
You get a good deal colder than we do though. And stay colder for longer. We’ll have a few days with the highs in the upper 30’s to lower 50’s range and lows in the high teens to upper 30’s. Followed by 2 or 3 days with highs in the upper 60’s. I kept a pepper plant in a low tunnel in my garden till january one year. Let it freeze then because the rabbits had found it and didn’t want to feed the problem animals!
There are some good sites out there that talk about green houses both heated and unheated. I’m sure there are lots of really really good ideas out there. An unheated greenhouse is on our ‘to do list’. Just not this year!