Skip to comments.America’s Addled Puritanism
Posted on 11/11/2012 10:28:13 AM PST by Saije
Nobody in human history has ever been entirely sensible and rational about the Big Five subjects, at least not for long: sex, power, children, money and God have been agitating and confusing human beings since time began. Note which comes first on the list: sex is both inescapable and inescapably confusing.
Americas own peculiar forms of sex craziness were beautifully on display this week. There is the sad and very shocking news that David Petraeus has stepped down as the head of the CIA due to an adulterous affair with his biographer...
Meanwhile, in Los Angeles, thanks to the alert news sleuths at Rt.com we have this fascinating look into the state of American mores:
Los Angeles County voters have passed a law requiring actors in adult movies to wear condoms while performing on set...
The Los Angeles Times looked into the results of the referendum and found an interesting pattern. Support for the condom requirement was strongest in non-white, working class neighborhoods, while the upper income mostly white districts in the city preferred leaving this question to the actors and producers themselves. As the Times puts it:
Countywide, Measure B won by 56% to 42%, but the ballot initiative requiring condoms to be used during porn filming racked up huge margins in lower-income neighborhoods that are either heavily Latino, black or both, like East Los Angeles (67%); Inglewood (75%); Compton (76%)...
In contrast, neighborhoods voicing the most opposition to a condom requirement were higher-income areas that have significant white majorities. The no vote rose to 54% in Malibu, Ranchos Palos Verdes, Westlake Village and Sierra Madre; 55% in Calabasas, La Crescenta, and Topanga; 56% in Redondo Beach; 57% in Hidden Hills and Rolling Hills Estates; 58% in El Segundo; 59% in Manhattan Beach; and 60% in Hermosa Beach.
(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.the-american-interest.com ...
Have you not heard/read some people have the need to talk about their sex life. So of course government is going to regulate/mandate/tax any activity they can to increase their spending money. Lust of the flesh is so American, because everybody is doing it. What is the pervert agenda, sex. Our American sex balloon is about to pop.
Blacks and Hispanics are clearly not social conservatives, not in life, culture, or voting, so the explanation is elsewhere.
The Christian Right Wingers didn’t play a part with Petraeus or the defense industry guy. There’s way more to the Petraeus story than just the fact that a married man had sex with a married woman who was not his wife. And the defense industry guy was hoodling the help which paves the way for all kinds of legal troubles. Nope. The Democrats would like to paint these as just casual flings, but that’s simply not why they left or were forced out. Again, if a guy will break his marital vows, how can you trust him to be honest about anything? Stephen Covey had it right, we don’t have a little morality/honesty switch we can turn on or off as we enter and leave the office. We either have virtue or we don’t.
There is one regulation however that I would support. When columnists propose passing new laws or regulations, those laws or regulations should apply only to the columnist for a period of 10 years so everyone else can see how the regulations works in real life.
I agree 100%.
I've seen many articles about the black community and homosexual marriage (the experts tells me blacks are very conservative on this issue)
I've seen many articles on Hispanics and abortion (the experts point out that, as Catholics, the Hispanics are very conservative on this issue).
I could list other issues -- but it's all bosh. As far as demographic generalities can go, one should simply say that (in general) blacks and Hispanics like to get free stuff from the government, and that no other issues really matter to them.
The lesson for me: Republicans should not attempt to pander to these blocks -- the Democrats will always pander more successfully.
ditto your comments
Social conservatives need to make a deeper and more fundamental examination of their true beliefs when it comes the limited government all Conservatives say we believe in.
Is it only limited government when I want the government off my back, and O.K. to not be limited government when I want people to do what I would do, or what I think is “the best thing to do”, and its only what people are freely doing with each other, by their own consent???
Sure, I would not be in the Porn business to start with, and yes, if I were I would dam well use “protection” and I would dam well insist that everyone did all the time. But, hey, if someone chooses the risks of being in that business to start with. they cannot be so head-in-the-sand stupid to not know the risk that it is. Am I supposed to care if they don’t care? NO.
I parroted that line for decades, but finally had to face reality, they aren’t social conservatives.
The US is not “puritanical”. I wish it were.
This “puritanical” meme is so stupid.
You are right.
The average American has over 8 sexual partners in the course of his or her lifetime. However much one may want to twist this, it isn’t much different from polygamy, adultery and infidelity, all rolled into one. Hypocrisy is rife with regard to sexuality, here.
Sex after marriage is a mythical concept in American society.
I must be a mythical beast then.
.... sex after marriage alone...
Still mythical, huh?
> I knew someone would jump on that omission:
>> .... sex after marriage alone...
> Still mythical, huh?
Considering I’m still a virgin, yes.
Well, all the best! How old are you?
I do still think that the only way to reach those groups is through social conservatism, and low lever economics, the kind that appeal to trades people that want to branch off on their own with a little business ( a true “little” business, of a pickup and 2 employees and $60,000 a year income), and families.
The thing is, republicans need to learn how to talk to blue collar Americans, and guys and gals, rather than the way they talk today.
When I’m in a bar, I can use language and discuss interests and principles that wins over Hispanics and blacks, but when Romney and the GOP people speak, even I don’t really know what they are getting at, it just isn’t meaty and interesting, it sounds more like they are always talking to people who have already made it, or are close to it.
Hispanics will jump on board to Americanism, if someone will start talking to them.