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Why We Lost- We Played By THEIR Rules (Vanity)
November 13, 2012

Posted on 11/13/2012 6:05:53 PM PST by Steelfish

As we enter the first week since we were shellshocked by the election results of last Tuesday and as 360 degree post-mortem analyses continue to abound, we must take away one major lesson from this epic disaster. We played by "their" rules and we lost.

When Bush won, it was because while he played by "their" rules, third-party backers appealed to value voters and of course we all know of the pivotal role played by the Swift-boaters that sunk the Kerry candidacy.

We ask why did we not run ads showing Obama's embrace of gay marriage and how under the Full Faith and Credit Clause will extend this to the red states? Why didn't we show how the gay culture has infected local school curriculum in places like California and Washington? The connection between gays and AIDS? Why were no questions raised about how a future Supreme Court was one vote away from constitutionalizing gay marriage and with that other polyamorous relationship and possibly incest? Why were no ads run by our side on how God was repeatedly booed at the DNC Convention? Why didn't we run ads on how Obama is requiring people of faith especially Christians and particularly Catholics to choose between their God and his agenda? And finally why were no ads run about the issue of illegals and unlimited immigration that has added to the costs of crime, schooling, and public benefits?

In a word, our side was snakebit. In the past conservative were hammered for raising what "they" called divisive and hate-filled wedge issues. We were stung by the liberal snakes and we kept clear of the snake pit.

In truth these are not wedge issues. They go to the very heart of who we are as an expression of a common culture and Judeo-Christian ethic. If demographics is destiny, culture is the engine that takes us there. And yet we refused to ride this vehicle because the road we were warned is fraught with liberal IEDs.

While one can understand why Romney did not want to go there since he would have been tarred and feathered by the liberal media, there was absolutely no reason why independent groups in the post-Citizens United era shied away. Instead we had Rove and Company throwing away $300 million playing from the same hymnal as Romney, telling voters that it was an economic theme and nothing else mattered.

Democrats will label Romney as a murderer and a felon and everything else on earth and under the earth but as soon as conservatives address value and cultural issues, the MSM descend upon us like a tsunami trying to bury us with labels like "playing dirty" and branding us as being "divisive" of the country and engaging in wedge issues. And not infrequently, they have the support of leading RINOS to further this meme.

Limbaugh has asked how do you defeat Santa Claus? By portraying him as coming to prey on your children, swamping your local schools with gay-filled garbage, and taking away your Bibles.

Unless and until Republicans and conservative stiffen up their spine and are willing to engage in this cultural war, we will continue to lose.


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To: SoConPubbie
We, as true conservatives....are going to have to stand up and tell the GOP-E, not only no, but HELL NO! to anymore liberal/moderate Presidential candidates like Bob Dole, John McCain, and the worst of the lot, Mitt Romney.

I think after this latest RINO produced disaster, the GOP-e knows they have to retool their thinking, or go the way of the Whigs. Even with widespread Democrat voter fraud, Obama should have been whipped soundly by any reasonably solid Republican challenger.

The fact that Mitt Romney didn't bury Obama in a landslide, can't all be chalked up to the Dems cheating. In my mind, most of that loss has to be laid at the doorstep of the RNC, who insisted upon foisting yet another milquetoast candidate onto the center-right.

I think it's now painfully apparent to everyone concerned, that the instincts of staunch conservatives were right all along. This wasn't the time to run a nice guy, who wouldn't think of dirtying his fingernails in a street brawl with the left. No, it was precisely the time for the sort of leader that the Tea Party movement demanded. Someone who is fearless, outspoken, and patriotic to a fault. Someone who could inspire the people to answer the call to arms, and boldly lead us to spit in the eye of the evil that is destroying us.

Right when we needed Churchill, the GOP-e gave us Chamberlain.

Again.

Do we get it now, people? Have we finally had enough of this? Are we going to allow the party to play us like fools again in 2016? I surely hope not. Even now, I think the GOP may have set the stage for a conflict of unimaginable proportions, but if we somehow avoid a total breakdown of this country, it's certain to me that the conservative right has been played the fool for the very last time.

41 posted on 11/13/2012 10:57:36 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Steelfish

Thats right all those Negative ads By Obama really turned off voters didnt they? Not talking about Benghazi really helped too. The Marxist selling out our Missle defense to Russia Too as well as spelling out all the Nightmares of Obamacare,How could we lose?


42 posted on 11/14/2012 4:03:30 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Windflier

The GOP-e LIKES being the minority party. That’s the problem. Look at Boner, he acts like being Speaker is a burden. I would like to be speaker of the house for 10 minutes, I would probably start CWII.


43 posted on 11/14/2012 4:19:16 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Finny
But read comments on the you tubes, the yahoo threads, the comments sections on links to LA Times articles. Granted, you see a lot of entitlement liberal idiots, but you see a lot of pretty level-headed folks who understand what a load of crap big government liberalism actually IS, and it's starting to dawn on some of them that elections have gotten downright stinky in America lately.

Before the election comments on yahoo articles and other major MSM sites that constantly ran pro Obama articles, being pro Obama, often ran about 12 out of 13 completely and wholeheartedly against Obama. The "likes" for comments against Obama were often into the 100s, and comments for Obama quickly disappeared, and were covered over because they had so many "dislikes".

During the last election the democrats ran their election based largely on propaganda, and covered the internet with comments that were pro Obama. You could tell that many in the same article were likely written by the same people with different handles. Conservative opinions were mocked to death. I am sure that the left had paid operatives to keep the internet covered with pro Obama comments, and to also horribly ridicule Conservative comments. The few supposedly Conservative oriented comments that got through were often racist and/or really nasty. It was obvious that they were also written by their operatives to mischaracterize Conservatives. Good comments I wrote were often not allowed in by what appeared to be bought Moderators.

My point is that Obama's campaign could have cared less about the vast hoards of anti Obama internet comments this time, and I believe it is because it didn't matter. He had this election sewed up, and he knew it, for the left had taken control of the voting machines. His campaign was a dog and pony campaign meant to smoke over the fact that they didn't even need a campaign, except to keep enough people who were obviously for him to throw off the fact that the vote was fixed, for merely the show. Also to keep his base somewhat activated and happy, in case they may be needed sometime in the future.

Also, since comments, when left unfettered by leftist control, ran so tremendously against Obama, even on the normal MSM operated sites, it is obviously that Romney likely won this election, if ran fairly, by a huge landslide. It wasn't at all because he was a great candidate, but rather because the public held a largely "anything but Obama" mind set. I don't think that Americans are nearly as stupid and immoral as we think, except to be duped by vast election fraud.

44 posted on 11/14/2012 7:05:13 AM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Bellflower; Colonel_Flagg
Col., ref to Bellflower's post #44. :^) Top notch post, Bellflower. The folks who are so quick to poo-poo vote fraud have probably never actually done any investigating for themselves of the opinions of general every-day Americans, as you and I have.

It was also amazing how many Republicans were stone-cold ignorant on Romney's record in Massachusetts. A shocking number did absolutely ZERO due-diligence in voting for him, but instead believed wholesale the pap in his speeches. The ones who voted for him with their eyes wide open, I can understand -- they knew the risk they were taking in electing a liberal, and I can respect that. But those who voted for a liberal-registered-as-a-Republican in pure ignorance and hope, failed a responsiblity to investigate him for themselves. Likewise, folks who think vote fraud is a laughable kook cause, should take the trouble to go read America's mind themselves, because neither Fox News nor the MSM can or will create a digest of what people are really saying in response.

45 posted on 11/14/2012 6:21:19 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny; Bellflower

Indeed. Fine post, Bellflower!

Finny, to what you wrote I’d only add that some people were not just stone-cold ignorant about the Romney record but belligerently so. Willfully so. I can understand the ABO mindset but the groupthink to which so many mainstream Republicans surrendered regarding Romney’s ‘conservatism’ was disheartening. Vote for the man if you must but at least be aware of what you’re getting.

I think the vote fraud issue will once again put the much-maligned base against our ‘betters’ in the GOP-E. All those people who said they would ‘hold Romney’s feet to the fire’ if he were elected President can transfer their ardor to this issue. If we lose elections, then we lose them, but let’s at least do all we can to make sure the elections are fair.


46 posted on 11/14/2012 7:43:00 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
All those people who said they would ‘hold Romney’s feet to the fire’ if he were elected President can transfer their ardor to this issue. [vote fraud]

Amen Brother FReeper!!!

47 posted on 11/15/2012 10:29:17 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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