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It's good to know that the GOP-e will say that Santorum is next in line. /Sarc.
11/19/2012 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 11/19/2012 12:15:26 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

... will back him, say that it it is his turn, and not Chris Christie's turn, etc. /Sarc.

I mean, George Bush defeated McCain, and so McCain was the presumptive "next in line," (that's how it works, right? /sarc) although he still had to fight for it and had at one point sunk pretty low --- even captioned carrying his own baggage.

And McCain defeated Romney, so it was then Romney's turn --- and he was next in line --- right?

But does this rule only apply to RINOs?

Speaking of Chris Christie... Given what Limbaugh said about Christie, and his choice words about him a little while back, I wonder where Ann Coulter now stands concerning Christie...

BTW, I wonder if any Republican will be on O'Reilly's show over and over again the next four years.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; christie; coulter; limbaugh; mccain; newjersey; nj; romney; rubio; santorum
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1 posted on 11/19/2012 12:15:29 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Who are you supporting for 2016?


2 posted on 11/19/2012 12:16:59 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

Something else... are they finally going to put New York, Delaware, Maine, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Maryland, etc, at the end of the line in the primary season, as no Republican has any chance of winning these states in the general election?


3 posted on 11/19/2012 12:18:21 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Not so sure Santorum is next in line. Heard recently that Rubio was in Iowa.


4 posted on 11/19/2012 12:18:53 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Rubio, Rubio, Rubio


5 posted on 11/19/2012 12:20:35 PM PST by skinndogNN
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To: Perdogg

Santorum works for me, and so does Perry.


6 posted on 11/19/2012 12:20:39 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Perdogg

I’ve got a reasonable list of acceptable candidates myself, but we have to settle on someone before 2016. Santorum, Jindal, Rubio, McClintock, Palin, Scott Walker, Paul Ryan and more are all acceptable to me. We can’t have another debacle where we have to switch from candidate to candidate like last time.


7 posted on 11/19/2012 12:21:42 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I like Perry, but Perry supported Dewhurst in the Texas Senate race. I know why he did, but still..


8 posted on 11/19/2012 12:23:53 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If the GOPe Were Smart They Would Beg Gov. Palin to Come Back Into the Room
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2960873/posts

GretaWire Readers [By a Huge Margin] See Sarah Palin as the Leader of the GOP Post Election
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2957634/posts

Are you tired? Isn’t it time to form the Tea Party to replace a certain other party?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2956796/posts


9 posted on 11/19/2012 12:24:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

How about this: state primaries are in the order of percent won by the Republican nominee last general election, win or lose. Let the party strongholds set the tone for the primary.


10 posted on 11/19/2012 12:24:24 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: skinndogNN

But what about that position statement that Rubio put out that was entitled concerning “Undocumented Workers” or something like that, not “illegal aliens?”

And what about his own version of the “Dream Act?”


11 posted on 11/19/2012 12:24:40 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: skinndogNN

Ineligible, ineligible, ineligible.


12 posted on 11/19/2012 12:25:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I think Santorum was a far better choice than the one we got.


13 posted on 11/19/2012 12:26:04 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

But what about Rubio’s own version of the “Dream Act” or quasi-amnetsy or something like that that he was developing?

And what about that position statement of his that was entitled “Undocumented Workers” not “Illegal aliens?”


14 posted on 11/19/2012 12:26:21 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: 5thGenTexan

Good idea.

GOP and Dems should run their own primaries, we don’t need state governments involved in this


15 posted on 11/19/2012 12:27:59 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
chris christie, jeb bush, marco rubio and dennis kucinich are the gop/e 2016 choices. (a small amount of /s)

LLS

16 posted on 11/19/2012 12:28:09 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

A-men, sir. A-men.


17 posted on 11/19/2012 12:34:05 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I don’t give a smelly, sceptic Obama who (or what) the GOP nominates.

I will vote for a conservative, or I will not vote at all.

Palin yes.

Another RINOmney - no.

Period.

I’ve seen what a pile of Obamstuff that those idiots have given us, and they can eat it, ‘cuz I’m no longer a Republican.


18 posted on 11/19/2012 12:35:19 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: LibLieSlayer

Sadly, Dennis is the smartest and most conservative of that bunch. Plus, he has good taste in females.


19 posted on 11/19/2012 12:35:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I don’t think Pat Buchanan or Tom Tancredo will be running in 2016.

I live in California. I’ve seen first hand how illegal immigration can destroy an entire state.

That said, however, the cat has been been let out of the bag. The white vote is in decline. Blacks will never vote GOP in my lifetime. Asians SHOULD be voting GOP but are not right now. George W. Bush received 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2004. We need to get back to those kind of numbers. Romney won about 60% of the white vote. Two or three decades ago, that would have been more than enough to guarantee a Reagan-like or Nixon-like landslide. But with our current demographic situation, that is no longer possible.


20 posted on 11/19/2012 12:36:56 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: GeronL

Oh, I forgot. All closed primaries. Registered party members should be the only voice in picking the party nominee.


21 posted on 11/19/2012 12:39:26 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Perdogg

FWIW none of the presumptive candidates appeal to me. If I HAD to pick from thst list I suppose Palin, Rubio, Walker, Ryan could be made to work. Sarah is going to be too old I think...I have questions about Rubio but he might be OK...Walker isn’t big on international affairs and Ryan is good but after this election might be damaged.

I never liked Santorum and the rest are meh.

That said thanks for your Skyfall review! I’ll wait for the blu ray or not watch it at all. One thing you did mention that attracted me was the cinemetography. Glad they got rid of that jerky, handheld, reality filming! But the rest of your review was pretty much as I feared.


22 posted on 11/19/2012 12:40:20 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right screw up! Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

How about ‘who gives a frack’; let the Electoral College do it’s thing and the rest of us back those that understand what the flippin’ Constitution means and starve Fedzilla back to where it should have always been. Give some balls back to the 9th/10th, with the States taking back what was/is theirs.

I have never understood the focus on ONE person, when having the Congress in our corner could fix the courts and other shit that’s come out of D.C. over the past 100 years...

“Most powerful man”, “Bully pulpit”, blah blah blah. CiC and host, only. The rest people mistake for the exec. seat


23 posted on 11/19/2012 12:42:00 PM PST by i_robot73
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I'm liking Lisa Roper of the NFRW!


24 posted on 11/19/2012 12:43:12 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: 5thGenTexan

bump


25 posted on 11/19/2012 12:43:43 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: 5thGenTexan

I like that idea.


26 posted on 11/19/2012 12:46:09 PM PST by youthphil
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes... his wife is a hotty!

LLS


27 posted on 11/19/2012 12:49:37 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

True but it did not stop the current President.


28 posted on 11/19/2012 12:50:37 PM PST by Republican1795.
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To: Republican1795.

Though I doubt the press would give Rubio as pass as they did for the current President.


29 posted on 11/19/2012 12:51:34 PM PST by Republican1795.
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To: Perdogg

None of the 2012 candidates have a chance in hell of being nominated in ‘2016. Likewise, Christie’s chances are slim to none. No pun intended.


30 posted on 11/19/2012 12:52:09 PM PST by wny
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To: i_robot73
How about ‘who gives a frack’; let the Electoral College do it’s thing and the rest of us back those that understand what the flippin’ Constitution means and starve Fedzilla back to where it should have always been.

Well, if there were enough people in the Electoral COllege who gave a frack, I might agree with you. Eighty years ago, Hillaire Belloc observed that England had become a paper Monarchy with no Monarch, and that America had evolved into a Republic that has in effect, a functional, elected Monarch.

That said, under the U.S. Constitution, the President is the chief Executive with considerable powers given to him. Even going back to at least Jefferson, who was supposed to be a small government guy, the powers expanded past the original parameters, and we all know what SCOTUS has made of the 9th and 10th Amendments.

Some state is going to have to not take the government bribery (highway, education funds) in order to exert push back. The Libertarian Free State Project made a well-meaning formal attempt in New Hampshire, and it has pretty much meant bupkis. Even they couldn't resist the tempting candy of established cities nearby. The next attempt would have to take place in a state less likely to be invaded by coast dwellers who are fleeing their own litter-box. That would be places like Alaska, Wyoming, maybe Texas.
31 posted on 11/19/2012 12:55:06 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Perdogg

Read my Tagline ...


32 posted on 11/19/2012 12:55:13 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin will DEFEAT the Obama-Romney Socialist Gay-Marriage Axis of Evil)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sadly, Dennis is the smartest and most conservative of that bunch.”

Rubio is not perfect.

But I’m not 100% convinced that he is less conservative than Kucinich.

Then again, who can know for certain with the pathetic GOP these days? (Maybe you are right after all....)


33 posted on 11/19/2012 12:55:36 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

Senator Rubio is ineligible to be president or vice president.


34 posted on 11/19/2012 12:59:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Santorum was a sitting Senator, and lost reelection worse than Christine O’Donnell did in her infamous defeat, a history making 17.4% wipeout as an incumbent.

Santorum was a big Romney supporter in 2008, and endorsed presidential candidate Arlen Specter running on a platform of removing pro-life from the party platform in 1996.

Santorum has many similarities with Romney, such as having switched to pro-life for his first campaign, and being anti-Reagan during the Reagan years


35 posted on 11/19/2012 1:02:12 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: prisoner6

Gov. Palin is only 48 years old!


36 posted on 11/19/2012 1:02:30 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: ansel12
Santorum rewrote Newt's history as speaker then bragged about being part of the coup that took him down. Screw him. Backstabbing little punk. He needs to stay home and take care of his family.
37 posted on 11/19/2012 1:07:56 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: prisoner6

Palin is only going to be 52 in 2016.


38 posted on 11/19/2012 1:08:33 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

I would have no problem with that.


39 posted on 11/19/2012 1:09:36 PM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Senator Rubio is ineligible to be president or vice president.

Only if he runs as a Republican.

40 posted on 11/19/2012 1:12:17 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Perdogg
For better or worse I think Trig’s condition and long term prognosis will be a major determining factor in her decision to run.
41 posted on 11/19/2012 1:14:07 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I can understand the feelings of people who only watched and learned about Santorum this year, it is similar to the ones that only know Mitt Romney from his time that he was running for president, but they need to know that when they look into Santorum, pre-2012, they won’t like what they find.


42 posted on 11/19/2012 1:22:41 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

My ideal candidate would be Sarah Palin. But Rick Santorum was the best of the candidates who ran in the last campaign. He was second, and only lost the primary to Romney because Newt and others divided the vote, and because the primary was, as usual, frontloaded with liberal and crossover states. And because several Mormon-heavy states also voted at key moments.

Rick’s only real sin was to endorse Arlen Specter for re-election. I was upset about that at the time, but all the other candidates committed far worse sins, and he did have some excuses for the endorsement: 1) Specter had endorsed him in a close election; 2) Specter was a Republican with considerable seniority; 3) Bush said he needed Specter to get another SCOTUS appointment, and that actually worked out, before Specter went rogue again.

Most of the other complaints about Santorum were due to all the distortions smeared on him by Romney and the left-wing media.


43 posted on 11/19/2012 1:23:18 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ansel12

Big government social conservative. Huckabee without the entertaining family...


44 posted on 11/19/2012 1:28:22 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

My posts were questioning his social conservatism.

A social conservative would not be a lifetime supporter of Arlen Specter, and an actual endorser of his campaign to remove life from the GOP platform.

A social conservative would not have been anti-Reagan and calling his supporters too far right, while working on campaigns for declared social liberal republicans, and would not have supported Mitt Romney in 2008.


45 posted on 11/19/2012 1:33:53 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Santorum showed a fanatic side, in the debates. He does not understand Federalism--or that the States are the basic governments involved in defining social policy, not the Federal Government.

Moreover, he appeared to think assassination of people helpful to your foes as something to be boasted about.

He may be sound on a few issues, he is clearly not Presidential or completely balanced in judgment.

I am sorry to have to weigh in on an intra-party dispute, so soon after the election. I wish we could enjoy an era of good-will, and observe Reagan's Eleventh Commandment, while we focus on ways to counter what Obama is doing.

It is, in any event, way to early to be thinking of a Presidential candidate--major soul searching & tactical reevaluation must precede that.

William Flax

46 posted on 11/19/2012 1:35:08 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Rubio’s parents - neither of them - did not become naturalized US citizens until he was 4 years old. Rubio was born a Cuban to Cuban citizens.

Having shredded the Natural Born citizen provision written thoughtfully in the Constitution, do we now have to accept any anchor baby as a future president?


47 posted on 11/19/2012 1:36:45 PM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Cicero
Rick’s only real sin was to endorse Arlen Specter for re-election.

Santorum has always been devoted to Specter, and endorsed him for president in 1996, when Specter was running on a campaign to make the GOP pro-abortion.

“I pledge to lead the fight to strip the strident anti-choice language from the Republican National platform…”

Santorum and Specter
Arlen Specter announces for the White House, with endorsee, Rick Santorum at his side.

At Senator Arlen Specter’s official presidential campaign announcement in March 1995, then-Senator Rick Santorum showed his public support and encouragement of Specter by sitting directly next to him as Specter denounced the GOP’s war on abortion. It was at this event that Specter proclaimed his total opposition to social conservatism and declared he is in fact running to make the GOP pro-choice.

Santorum is seen nodding and applauding at Specter’s side:

3:46 mark: “In 1996, I intend to win the other house — the White House — with ten commitments to America… Especially a woman’s right to choose…

13:22 mark: “Even though we have this historic opportunity for these achievements, there are those in our party who would lead us down a different path — and squander this unique moment in our nation’s history — by using our political capital — to pursue a radical social agenda — that would end a woman’s right to choose…

13:48 mark: “When Pat Robertson says there is no constitutional doctrine of separation between Church and State, I say he is wrong…

14:31 mark: “When Ralph Reed says a pro-choice Republican isn’t qualified to be our President, I say the Republican Party will not be intimidated or blackmailed by those kinds of threats.I, and millions of other pro-choice Republicans, will not be disenfranchised and made second class citizens.

15:33 mark: “… it is not Christian, or religious, or Judeo-Christian to bring God into politics; or to advocate intolerance and promote exclusion.

15:54 mark: “I want to take abortion out of politics. I want to keep the Republican Party focused on the vital economic and foreign policy issues — and leave moral issues such as abortion to the conscience of the individual. I believe abortion is an issue to be decided by women…

16:40 mark: “I pledge to lead the fight to strip the strident anti-choice language from the Republican National platform…”

17:05 mark: “neither this nation nor this party can afford a republican candidate so captive to the demands of the intolerant right...

48 posted on 11/19/2012 1:44:49 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Plus, he has good taste in females


And Aliens!


49 posted on 11/19/2012 1:45:23 PM PST by billys kid ("Bury me on my head for one day this world will be upside down." (Diogenes))
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Won’t vote for Rubio. He is the same as the others and definitely won’t consider GWs nephew.


50 posted on 11/19/2012 2:11:42 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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