Posted on 11/21/2012 5:24:18 AM PST by Renfield
Too many people on this board don’t know or understand basic American history. Their ingnorance tends to show up in comments such as the nomad statement.
Of course the Pilgrims didn't go for that and pretty much unionized the construction trades and made it tough for anyone to get a good drink on Sunday. And that pretty much took the fun out of wearing feathers and living on tax free cigarettes.
Savages are the opposite?
“well, for classification, what term would you use to define a person who identifies with a pre-columbus ethnicity?”
Amerindian, except for the Eskimo-Aleut Liguistic Family such as the Aleuts, Alutiiq, Cupik, Yupik, and Inuit peoples of the northeern regions of North America.
The Amerindians represent at least two to three or more prehistoric immigrant populations having very different physical and cultural characteristics.
Are you aware of a recent court decision in, I think, Louisiana, that puts limits on the land that the tribes can claim as sacred? The case has the potential to be a watershed case, allowing the liberals to pick and choose in which areas to give the tribes preferential treatment.
The definition for the word, civilized, originates from describing a person or culture that has abandoned a nomadic culture to live in relatively permanent communities described as cities, towns, and villages. The other usages of civilized then tend to be comparative between the social customs of the more civilized and uncivilized cultures to the more civilized and more technologically advanced cultures. Among Amerindian cultures, one Amerinidan culture discriminated against another Amerindian culture by describing its own culture as civilized and the enemy culture as uncivilizedd because of differences in ethnic origins, language, and cultural habits.
“Who gets to define civilization and savagely?”
The consensus of the surviving community and culture define the relationship.
The destruction of nearly all of the New World Amerindians by pandemics of disease was also destined to happen when a an Amerindian civilization eventually attempted to colonize and conquer and enslave people in the Old World.
The Woodlands Culture of Eastern regions of North America maintained semi-permanent communities in some time periods. It was necessary to pursue this semi-nomadic lifestyle due to the incidence of disease when occupying the same tonsite long enough for the groundwater to become contaminated with typhus and the parasites and parasitical diseases to become established in the communities. The Missippian Culture was somewhat more permanent, but its cities probably succumbed in part due to such sanitary and epidemiological problems and limitations. The City of Rome was so unhealthy to live in it required a constant influx of eager citizens to keep the city from rapidly depopulating as the consequence of disease. The immunities which developed in the Old World populations due to this incidence of disease is why they survivedd while the New World populations could not.
The victors!
Not that i'm disagreeing with you, mind
As you correctly point out, the other definition is relative.
Not necessarily because of the rifle. Many was the time when the Indians had and used a better rifle they bought from the gun-runners. The U.S. Cavalry sometimes fought with a single-shot breechloader against a Plains Indian armed with a breechloading and lever action repeating rifle. In any event, the Amerindian cultures lost their effective control of the real estate long before they set eyes upon the first Old World colonists. Between the constant inter-tribal warfare and the pre-Columbian and post Columbian pandemics,the Amerindian cultures lacked the populations necessary to control the vast and depopulated real estate of the Americas.
Next time remind him how the U.S. Army lived in teepees called the Sibley tent.
Yes, by that definition there were many Amerindian cultures that were civilized.
One of the reasons many amerindian cultures were deemed to be uncivilized beyond just the non-Christian religions was Amerindian attitudes towards such subjects as torture, the genocide of enemies, and cannibalism.
The whole African-American thing is another oxymoron and myth. One of the things you learned in a 1972 Black History class was the history of the many cultures and civilizations in Africa. You learned that the vast majority of Africa was not populated by the Negro or black cultures until the the development of sickle cell anemia in the black populations permitted an explosive populaton growth in the very late Middle Ages and early Enlightenment period. before then Africa was peopled by the Medditerranean, Semitic, Arab, Bushmen-Hottentot, Negroid, and other peoples. ven now Africa is peopled in great part by cultures other than the Negro or black populations. so, to identify all African-American people as necessarily being Negro in race is factually false and misleading iin the extreme.
You think that Christians worship Gods?
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