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Saudi Refuses $4 Million for Sacred Stone
Emirates 24/7 ^ | Sunday, November 11, 2012

Posted on 11/21/2012 3:49:01 PM PST by nickcarraway

A Saudi man on a hunting trip in the rugged mountains near the border with Yemen stumbled across a little dark stone, which he instantly recognized as that mentioned in the holy Koran. A year later, he was offered $four million for the stone but he refused.

Saleh Musfer Al Gamdi said the stone, which carries drawings of birds and elephants, weighs 131 gm, exactly the same number of words in the Koran verse that mentioned the stone-- “Surat Al Fil (elephant).”

According to that verse, God the Almighty sent Ababil birds to throw Sejil stones (pebbles of hell) to destroy an army led by Yemen’s warlord Abraha just before the advent of Islam to knock down Kaaba in Makkah, now the Moslems’ holiest shrine.

Gamdi said he found the hard black-grayish stone in the southern Jarb valley, previously known as the Green Wadi, where Abraha and his soldiers and elephants stayed for a period of time before heading for Makkah.

He said experts estimated that the stone dates back to nearly 1,442 years, adding that he found it just a day after dreaming of his father and grandfather.

“A year after I found the stone, I asked an Egyptian friend whose relatives work in the archeology field…they contacted me and asked me to send them pictures of that stone,” Gamdi said, quoted by the Saudi Arabic language daily Sabq.

“After a series of messages and phone calls, they told me they would buy the stone for $four million but I refused to sell it….a while later, the tourism department in Baha (southern Saudi Arabia) asked me to hand the stone over but I again refused.”

The story of Abraha begins when he feels envy of the town of Makkah in Saudi Arabia because Kaaba (House) was visited by many Arabs who wanted to make the pilgrimage every year before Islam. He has a great desire to destroy and divert Arab worshippers to Yemen, which has a large temple built by Abraha.

Before the offensive on Mecca, he first sent a messenger to inform them of his aims and desires. The messenger was suggested for the people of Mecca to perform their pilgrimage in Yemen only. If not, then the Kaaba will be destroyed.

Because they were disobedient, finally Abraha was really mad and ordered all troops to be getting ready to attack Mecca and destroy the Kaaba.

Abraha's army had complete war equipment, armour, and the elephants that will be used to knock down kaaba. Abraha told the messenger that the purpose of attack is not intended to fight, but just wanted to destroy the Kaaba.

At that time Mecca residents, led by Abdul Muttalib could not do anything to stop Abraha. There was no choice but to surrender and give up.

Some time before the arrival of Abraha’s army, Abdul Muttalib instructed his people to shelter and evacuate immediately behind the hill near Mecca.

Abraha was convinced that he will be able to destroy the Kaaba very easily. But what happens next? God's help arrived according to the Koran. These birds threw many, many stones of baked clay at the elephants and the people, which led to their defeat and destruction before they manage to knock down Kaaba.


TOPICS: Local News; Religion; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: idolatry; sacredstone

1 posted on 11/21/2012 3:49:07 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

It’s a chicken. He should have sold it.


2 posted on 11/21/2012 3:52:06 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: nickcarraway

Looks like a coprolite to me. Maybe a Mo’ turd.


3 posted on 11/21/2012 3:54:18 PM PST by manic4organic (It was nice knowing you, America.)
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To: nickcarraway

Looks like someone carved a ham hock into it.


4 posted on 11/21/2012 3:57:46 PM PST by mnehring
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To: nickcarraway

“Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds”

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/24518/24518-h/24518-h.htm

by Charles Mackay (1852)

See:

“Relics”

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/24518/24518-h/dvii.html#relics


5 posted on 11/21/2012 4:15:34 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: nickcarraway
the stone, which carries drawings of birds and elephants, weighs 131 gm, exactly the same number of words in the Koran verse that mentioned the stone

A gramme is a unit of measure (weight) in the Metric System which was created in the 19th Century, approximately 1,300 years after the purported date of the stone object. What a coincidence!

6 posted on 11/21/2012 4:18:18 PM PST by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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Looks like a banana and a walnut


7 posted on 11/21/2012 4:21:22 PM PST by Undecided 2012
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To: manic4organic

>> “Looks like a coprolite to me. Maybe a Mo’ turd.” <<

.
So true!


8 posted on 11/21/2012 4:31:05 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: nickcarraway

that really looks familiar. Now I know what it looks like a “deer turd”. Gee, i see a lot of these up here in the UP of Michigan. Some are pellet like but there are some do look like this too. a deer turd could be sacred too.


9 posted on 11/21/2012 4:42:58 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: hondact200
This guy wants them back.


10 posted on 11/21/2012 4:59:16 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep. Anthony Douglas Williams)
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To: nickcarraway

Abdul Muttalib? Isn’t that the name of the moron who stuffed incendiaries into his underwear and burned his “junk” off over Detroit a couple of years ago?


11 posted on 11/21/2012 5:01:30 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: nickcarraway
"stones of baked clay" . that's also Hamas title for their current rocket offensive against Israel. Weird coincidence.

CC

12 posted on 11/21/2012 5:01:56 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (who, me??)
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To: Salamander

The celtic god cernunnos?


13 posted on 11/21/2012 5:05:23 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (who, me??)
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To: nickcarraway

I picked up something like that in my backyard today.

Stupid dog.


14 posted on 11/21/2012 5:09:50 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (You are not now, and will never be my President, Mr. Obama.)
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To: nickcarraway
Chumlee'l give you $25 for it.


15 posted on 11/21/2012 5:19:24 PM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Yep.


16 posted on 11/21/2012 5:26:20 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep. Anthony Douglas Williams)
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To: Salamander
Do i win anything for getting the reference? or do i get any extra credit for mentioning "gundestrop cauldron"?

=^)

CC

17 posted on 11/21/2012 5:39:34 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (who, me??)
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To: nickcarraway

Saudi love-stone.


18 posted on 11/21/2012 5:45:20 PM PST by eartrumpet
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To: Undecided 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtm8w3o63AA


19 posted on 11/21/2012 5:47:21 PM PST by Orange1998 (Please DO NOT PRESS CTRL W)
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To: Celtic Conservative

You win my respect.

[and that’s a pretty hard thing to do]

;]

One of my most cherished possessions is a bronze pendant based on that scene.

The Horned Serpent forms an oval frame around Cernunnos.

It’s pretty cool but befuddles most people who see it.

Another cherished thing is an old Danish anthropomorphic bronze Celtic dagger I found in a hock shop one day.

[I have a lot of weird Celtic stuff around the house]

LOL


20 posted on 11/21/2012 5:51:52 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep. Anthony Douglas Williams)
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To: Cold Heart

Clearly the carving is an image of Hillary in a superman cape, created to commemorate her heroic salvation of the glorious nations of the Middle East.

Only a coincidence that it looks like a dogturd with a really fat worm in it.


21 posted on 11/21/2012 6:07:43 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Salamander
thank you, my ADD enhanced (yes, enhanced) brain holds onto virtually everything it is exposed to. It makes for a weird, arcane and often amusing ability to recall knowledge. I am honored by your respect. the dagger intrigues Me as My house is inhabited by various and sundry bits of military cutlery and collectibles( the latest is a vietnam era helicopter pilots helmet). BTW the celtic stuff around the house isn't "weird", it's "diverse and thought compelling" (at least to me)

CC

22 posted on 11/21/2012 6:36:36 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (who, me??)
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To: nickcarraway

Got to get some Chinese to crank out a few million of these ... sounds like the ME market for fake relics is ripe for the picking. Besides Chinese chicken scratching is indistinguishable from Arabic chicken scratching so any mistakes would be easily missed even by experts.


23 posted on 11/21/2012 7:14:23 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (The law of unintended consequences is an unforgiving and vindictive b!tch!)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Obviously your friends and acquaintances are nore tolernat than mine are.

As far as they’re concerned, my whole house is “weird”.

From sword/dagger collections to ‘scary’ dogs to Boas..it’s all incomprehensible to them.

I prefer to think of myself as ‘eclectic’.

;D

I wish you could’ve seen my mom’s face when she saw the hand carved Celtic mahogany “Hooded One” votive I have on my book shelf.

I made that myself and I like it.

Funny you’d mention the helmet...a guy we used to ride with was a former VN chopper pilot and he wore his flight helmet on his Harley.

Trippy.

:)


24 posted on 11/21/2012 7:27:43 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep. Anthony Douglas Williams)
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To: nickcarraway

That is a sling projectile. There are tens of thousands of the them in that area. Four million for one them is like paying 25 thousand for a black velvet painting of a tiger.


25 posted on 11/21/2012 7:34:47 PM PST by buffaloguy
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To: nickcarraway
weighs 131 gm, exactly the same number of words in the Koran verse that mentioned the stone..

How long has "gm" been a valid unit of measure? If it is an abbreviation for "gram" it doesn't add up: Originally defined as "the absolute weight of a volume of pure water equal to the cube of the hundredth part of a metre, and at the temperature of melting ice"[2] (later 4 °C), a gram is now defined as one one-thousandth of the SI base unit, the kilogram, or 1×10−3 kg, which itself is defined as being equal to the mass of a physical prototype preserved by the International Bureau of Weights and Measures. It was the base unit of mass in the original French metric system and the later centimetre-gram-second (CGS) system of units. The word originates from Late Latin gramma – a small weight.

If not short for "gram" what weight unit is it?

26 posted on 11/22/2012 3:17:15 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Thanks for the links, I’ve bookmarked them for later reading. There’s a lot there and very interesting.


27 posted on 11/22/2012 11:00:51 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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