2012 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX PETROBRAS DO BRASIL - LIVE THREAD

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[Chode]

Formula 1 São Paulo 2012

Race Date:	25 Nov 2012
Circuit Name:	Autodromo Jose Carlos Pace
First Grand Prix:	1973
Number of Laps:	71
Circuit Length:	4.309 km
Race Distance:	305.909 km
Lap Record:	1:11.473 - JP Montoya (2004)
Fri Sunny 31C Sat Sunny 33C Sun Sunny 20C

[Chode]

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[Chode]

UP...!!!

[mykroar]

Championship going down to the last week. Awesome season.

[Chode]

yup, doesn’t get much better than this...
FP#1
Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:14.131 33
2 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:14.140 0.009 35
3 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:14.198 0.067 34
4 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:14.217 0.086 31
5 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:14.392 0.261 28
6 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:14.716 0.585 29
7 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:14.719 0.588 33
8 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:14.738 0.607 34
9 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1:15.015 0.884 37
10 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:15.050 0.919 32
11 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:15.114 0.983 36
12 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:15.255 1.124 31
13 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:15.396 1.265 32
14 19 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1:15.413 1.282 23
15 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 1:15.587 1.456 35
16 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 1:15.701 1.570 16
17 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 1:16.048 1.917 35
18 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:16.315 2.184 36
19 20 Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1:16.460 2.329 32
20 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1:16.506 2.375 31
21 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1:16.617 2.486 30
22 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1:17.234 3.103 26
23 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1:17.678 3.547 15
24 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:17.895 3.764 13
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[henkster]

I’ll second that; it has been one of the better seasons. The more race winners, the better. Except the one by that idiot, Maldonado.

[Chode]

i heard that... something NOT to be repeated again anywhere in the near future

[nascarnation]

Pastor, like Milk Duds and Viso is Hugo’s boy, right?

[Chode]

2nd Practice

Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:14.026 35
2 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:14.300 0.274 40
3 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:14.523 0.497 37
4 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:14.553 0.527 37
5 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:14.592 0.566 37
6 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:14.654 0.628 36
7 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:14.669 0.643 40
8 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:14.863 0.837 40
9 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:14.994 0.968 37
10 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:15.129 1.103 39
11 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:15.131 1.105 40
12 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 1:15.371 1.345 39
13 19 Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1:15.432 1.406 45
14 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:15.542 1.516 35
15 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:15.839 1.813 43
16 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 1:15.902 1.876 39
17 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1:15.953 1.927 47
18 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 1:16.048 2.022 40
19 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1:16.126 2.100 39
20 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1:16.655 2.629 42
21 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1:17.244 3.218 15
22 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1:17.675 3.649 42
23 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1:18.127 4.101 31
24 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:18.139 4.113 15

[henkster]

Yep. And I was once a big Williams fan.

[Chode]

down to the wire... good luck to all

FORMULA 1 GRANDE PRÊMIO PETROBRAS DO BRASIL 2012
Pos No Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Laps
1 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:15.075 1:13.398 1:12.458 21
2 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:15.456 1:13.515 1:12.513 20
3 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:16.180 1:13.667 1:12.581 22
4 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:15.644 1:13.209 1:12.760 19
5 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:16.263 1:14.048 1:12.987 25
6 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1:16.266 1:13.698 1:13.174 24
7 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:15.536 1:13.704 1:13.206
8 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:16.097 1:13.856 1:13.253
9 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 1:16.432 1:13.698 1:13.298
10 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:15.929 1:13.848 1:13.489
11 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:15.901 1:14.121
12 19 Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1:15.333 1:14.219
13 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:15.974 1:14.234
14 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:16.005 1:14.334
15 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:16.400 1:14.380
16 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 1:16.744 1:14.574
17 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 1:16.722 1:14.619
18 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:16.967
19 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1:17.073
20 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1:17.086
21 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1:17.508
22 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1:18.104
23 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:19.576
24 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1:19.699
Q1 107% Time 1:20.330

[Elle Bee]

did I hear that Michael will start on full wets and a rain set up?

Ross Braun the chess master

that might be an interesting start

I'd rather not see his last race be unremarkable he deserves better than he has been treated by Ferrari and Mercedes

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[Chode]

all i could find said full wet set-up but didn't mention tires...

Michael Schumacher revealed that he had set his car up for a wet race ahead of qualifying for the Brazilian Grand Prix.

In a dry qualifying session, Schumacher could only secure 13th place on the grid as he dropped out in Q2. Ahead of the final race of his career, Schumacher admitted he had been disappointed by the pace shown in FP3 so decided to switch his main focus to Sunday with a rain-affected grand prix expected.

http://en.espnf1.com/brazil/motorsport/story/96225.html

[darthxenu]

The car was set up for the wet but he had dry tires. You have until 3 minutes before the start or the race to choose wet or dry tires.

[Chode]

Great Race, Great Season... congrats to Seb on the ThreePete

FORMULA 1 GRANDE PRÊMIO PETROBRAS DO BRASIL 2012
Provisional Results
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Pts
1 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 71 Winner 2 25
2 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 71 +2.7 secs 7 18
3 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 71 +3.6 secs 5 15
4 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 71 +4.9 secs 3 12
5 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 71 +5.7 secs 6 10
6 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 71 +9.4 secs 4 8
7 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 71 +11.9 secs 13 6
8 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 71 +28.6 secs 17 4
9 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 71 +31.2 secs 14 2
10 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 70 +1 Lap 8 1
11 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 70 +1 Lap 19
12 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 70 +1 Lap 22
13 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 70 +1 Lap 15
14 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 70 +1 Lap 20
15 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 70 +1 Lap 9
16 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 70 +1 Lap 21
17 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 69 +2 Laps 24
18 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 69 +2 Laps 23
19 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 68 +3 Laps 10
Ret 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 54 Accident 1
Ret 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 5 Accident 18
Ret 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1 +70 Laps 16
Ret 19 Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 0 Accident 11
Ret 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 0 Accident 12

Pos Driver Nationality Team Points
1 Sebastian Vettel German Red Bull Racing-Renault 281
2 Fernando Alonso Spanish Ferrari 278
3 Kimi Räikkönen Finnish Lotus-Renault 207
4 Lewis Hamilton British McLaren-Mercedes 190
5 Jenson Button British McLaren-Mercedes 188
6 Mark Webber Australian Red Bull Racing-Renault 179
7 Felipe Massa Brazilian Ferrari 122
8 Romain Grosjean French Lotus-Renault 96
9 Nico Rosberg German Mercedes 93
10 Sergio Perez Mexican Sauber-Ferrari 66
11 Nico Hulkenberg German Force India-Mercedes 63
12 Kamui Kobayashi Japanese Sauber-Ferrari 60
13 Michael Schumacher German Mercedes 49
14 Paul di Resta British Force India-Mercedes 46
15 Pastor Maldonado Venezuelan Williams-Renault 45
16 Bruno Senna Brazilian Williams-Renault 31
17 Jean-Eric Vergne French STR-Ferrari 16
18 Daniel Ricciardo Australian STR-Ferrari 10
19 Vitaly Petrov Russian Caterham-Renault 0
20 Timo Glock German Marussia-Cosworth 0
21 Charles Pic French Marussia-Cosworth 0
22 Heikki Kovalainen Finnish Caterham-Renault 0
23 Jerome D’Ambrosio Belgian Lotus-Renault 0
24 Narain Karthikeyan Indian HRT-Cosworth 0
25 Pedro de la Rosa Spanish HRT-Cosworth 0

Pos Team Points
1 Red Bull Racing-Renault 460
2 Ferrari 400
3 McLaren-Mercedes 378
4 Lotus-Renault 303
5 Mercedes 142
6 Sauber-Ferrari 126
7 Force India-Mercedes 109
8 Williams-Renault 76
9 STR-Ferrari 26
10 Caterham-Renault 0
11 Marussia-Cosworth 0
12 HRT-Cosworth 0

[Chode]

ya want on da list???

[Moltke]

Just. Damn. What a race. Almost wished I’d had some nitroglycerin pills. What a heart-stopper.

[Chode]

i heard that! i was a little concerned for Seb with the passing thing till i heard Martin Brundle say it was a Red/Yellow for slippery track...

[jeffc]

Very exciting race. The top drivers went all out and it was interesting from start to finish. Too bad Vettel got spun early on, I would've liked to see Vettel and Alonso dice it out together, especially in the rain.

I thought it quite..... ummm, "dumb" of RB to have Vettel pit for more drys (and it was the hard compound, too!), then make him pit again for intermediates a few laps later. But, what they hey, I'm not racing team management.

Alonso stayed out on his medium tires and they were pretty shot, too, but at least he stayed out. Bringing Vettel in put him way back. Considering the crashes and spins, it's a miracle (for Vettel) that nothing happened to Button, which would have, possibly, given the win to Alonso, and the championship.

Well, another season in the record books. It's too bad Bob Varsha is staying with SPEED while Steve and David are going to NBC for F1. I liked Bob's excitable commentary, and I think the three of them made a good team. I wonder who, if anyone, will replace him? I can't think of anyone currently at NBC that I could stomach!

[Moltke]

Post race commentary showed it was a little more complicated than that.

Yes, the red/yellow FLAG was shown at one point with a yellow LIGHT just beyond. And then there was the all-clear green light as they went up the hill, and THEN yellow lights again (for whatever reason) as they went over the crest as Vettel did his pass...they said Perez went into the pits anyway, but it didn’t look like that was even possible from his track position. Hmmm.

Man, if this ends up at the green table and the result gets nixed I just might be done with F1 for a while.

[Moltke]

Vettel’s radio went “one-way” (he could hear the team but they couldn’t hear him) before the second stop.

First stop, RB just covered what Ferrari did - and the hard tires were said to be actually better under the damp conditions.

Second stop, when Vettel came in for the inters, the team was clearly not ready for him, i.e. that was Vettel’s own decision. Stop took, what, 15-20 secs? They had to drag the tires out still their warming blankets!

That’s the way I recall things right now. Will watch the race again in hi-rez (watched the live feed streaming at comparatively low rez) when the d/l finishes...