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MAKER OF UNSKEWED POLLS CREATES ‘OBAMA VOTER FRAUD’ MAP —
THE BLAZE ^ | 11/23/11 | Mytheos Holt

Posted on 11/24/2012 4:06:02 PM PST by patriot08

Those arguing that President Obama’s victory in the election a few weeks back was due to fraud may have found a dubious ally in their quest to argue that Mitt Romney’s rightful victory was stolen from under his nose.

That ally is the much-mocked Dean Chambers, creator of the now arguably discredited website UnskewedPolls.com. Chambers, fresh off his last venture into arguing with numbers, has created the site barackofraudo.com, where he has posted this map, which he claims represents states that President Obama won by voter fraud:

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Full title: MAKER OF UNSKEWED POLLS CREATES ‘OBAMA VOTER FRAUD’ MAP — SEE WHICH STATES HE THINKS SHOULD’VE BEEN ROMNEY’S

What’s Chambers going on for that?

“I’m getting credible information of evidence in those states that there enough numbers that are questionable and could have swung the election,” he says. “I’m only putting good credible information on there, like the actual vote counts, reports, and mainstream publications reporting voter fraud." "There are articles people have sent me that don’t hold up. Crazy stuff.”

What’s not crazy? “Things like the 59 voting divisions of Philadelphia where Romney received zero votes,” says Chambers. “Even Larry Sabato said that should be looked into.”

1 posted on 11/24/2012 4:06:13 PM PST by patriot08
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To: patriot08

Wisconsin, Nevada, Iowa and Colorado should be on that map... if not more.


2 posted on 11/24/2012 4:12:03 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: patriot08

If they were true, the election numbers they spew, why the need for all the vote fraud?


3 posted on 11/24/2012 4:16:04 PM PST by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: patriot08

I think Nevada and Colorado should be thrown in there also. IMHO, more illegal aliens voted in Nevada than Nevadans did.


4 posted on 11/24/2012 4:16:49 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Criminal defense lawyers won't have the Twinkie to kick around anymore.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I agree there should be more. It might not have won it for Obama but places like Flint and Detroit are notorious for fraud. The Michigan Secretary of state was looking into irregularities” in Flint.


5 posted on 11/24/2012 4:17:00 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: patriot08

This guy is not doing himself any favors and is digging the hole deeper.


6 posted on 11/24/2012 4:19:14 PM PST by cicero2k
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To: patriot08

Now they think they have the right to steal our money by over taxing. Steal the election and now steal the money!


7 posted on 11/24/2012 4:24:00 PM PST by FreedBird
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To: patriot08

And yet, not a peep out of the GOP.


8 posted on 11/24/2012 4:25:36 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: cicero2k

Obama is the one digging the hole deeper....for all of us!!!


9 posted on 11/24/2012 4:26:18 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: patriot08
I clicked into the barackofraudo.com website to look at Virginia and it says "Those eight areas are the ones where vote fraud was most likely and they will be the focus of efforts to find any reports and evidence of vote fraud in the state." The eight areas he refers to are cities like Richmond which had some precincts as bad as 1272 to 7 for Obama. Although RIchmond is 40% white, Romney got only 20% of the vote. The main reason, as in much of Virginia, is that blacks turned out more than whites.

He lists some liberal areas like Arlington County where Obama won 70-30. I happen to work there and it is chock full of young stupid women who have come for the federal money that flows there. Romney had lots of negative ads run against him there I'm just surprised it wasn't more than 70-30.

10 posted on 11/24/2012 4:31:37 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Well, remember, Barry is the fool who once said that we had to dig our way out of this hole we’re in.


11 posted on 11/24/2012 4:55:58 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Criminal defense lawyers won't have the Twinkie to kick around anymore.)
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To: patriot08
Mitt Romney’s rightful victory was stolen from under his nose.

So, did Republicans lose because we ran a milquetoast Massachusetts liberal who flip-flopped on all his positions while alienating his conservative base or was Mitt Romney truly the victor in this race, only to be denied because of Obama's powerful vote fraud machine (a machine that somehow failed to capture the house or a 60 seat Senate majority).

If the later is true, then shouldn't we keep running more guys like Romney? After all, why mess with success?

FWIW, I don't believe this is true.

12 posted on 11/24/2012 5:31:05 PM PST by Drew68
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To: patriot08

If we are to assure honest outcome of elections, we need a bulletproof system in place.

Election after election military ballots are delivered too late or lost before being counted. This must end.

There must be consistency in voting periods. Start and end on the same days... and voting periods must not begin until after all debates are ended. (Or if the “debate” process ends, a set “earliest” date to begin voting.

There must be enforced voting regulations to limit voting to one vote per eligible voter. So, a citizen’s photoID with magnetic strip in conjunction with an eligible voters ID database must exist. Swipe the card, vote once, and you are done. All digital...

This must be backed up with severe penalties for anyone found guilty of attempting/succeeding in voter fraud.

That would be a good start... IMO


13 posted on 11/24/2012 5:44:55 PM PST by StraightDave (.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks patriot08.


14 posted on 11/24/2012 5:56:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: patriot08

Regardless of voter fraud, the GOP as it is today is done unless it can get NY and CA to split electorate votes in a manner similar to Maine and Nebraska.


15 posted on 11/24/2012 6:02:42 PM PST by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: patriot08

Compare the congressional ballott totals with the
President ballott totals. There are an extra 300 to 500k of
Presidential ballots in each battleground state. The other non-battleground states match up just fine . The keyword is “groundgame”.
They figured out how to eliminate ACORN. Just keep a record of who voted last time and automatically submit there vote the next time. Oh and make sure the other guy gets Zero votes just in case he might win by one vote.


16 posted on 11/24/2012 6:23:05 PM PST by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: Drew68

The Rats can’t steal many House seats. When the fraud is just a few blocks away folks won’t buy it.


17 posted on 11/24/2012 7:08:48 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: patriot08

Looks about right.


18 posted on 11/24/2012 7:09:07 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: StraightDave

Are you joking? The whole point is we have seen our last election. Zero and friends can not afford to turn over the reigns.


19 posted on 11/24/2012 7:10:44 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: StraightDave

We need an outside non-governmental agency to take over the election process in the US. Our system has long since been corrupted - as the Communists told us it’s not who votes, but who counts the votes that matters! A private agency, i.e. IBM, EDS or some other entity could do a better job of ensuring less voter fraud. Of course Harry will never let such a common sense plan come up for a vote.. so perhaps it’s time to get the states to begin a move toward a constitutional convention to guarantee an honest election!


20 posted on 11/24/2012 7:24:50 PM PST by Froggie
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To: patriot08

something else ive been thinking is a by the color explanation:.
Missouri in 2008 went from red Bush to pink McCain in 08
then went red for Romney. IOW, they saw Obama and said no louder in 12. Soooo.. OH, PA, FL should have gone pinkish to redish NOT the opposite blue what so ever. and maybe some other ‘blue’ states too.

Thats not based on facts (because we are still arguing the facts btw), just logic..


21 posted on 11/24/2012 7:41:26 PM PST by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: FreeAtlanta
Speaking as a Nevadan of 37+ years, no, I think Obama legitimately won Nevada.

I'm none too happy about it.

Yeah, there were illegals that voted for Obama, I'm sure. The Dems have a mini-machine here, it helped get Obama elected, it helped Obama beat Hillary, etc. They had a great get-out-the-vote drive--they were constantly knocking on my door. FOUR TIMES that I know of, not counting how many I may have missed when at work.

NOBODY from Romney knocked on my door. I did receive a Romney phone call, though.

No, Obama won Nevada folks. Mostly fair and square. It galls me to acknowledge it, because by the act of acknowledging it, I am admitting to myself that the takers now outnumber the makers.

Tax consumers do outnumber tax producers. My own "informal" polling of folks I'd meet ever day indicated as much.

We need to step back, assess where we are. I'm in a brutal debate with some friends who believe the Republicans need to rebrand in the wrong direction by becoming nothing more than "Democrat Lite"--much as the Tories became after losing to Labour. I'm adamantly against it.

I think we're all still in shock and performing the natural self-assessment.

Let's do the assessment, but we must be certain to get our facts right: and Obama did, in fact, prevail in Nevada. :(

22 posted on 11/24/2012 7:52:18 PM PST by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: rwoodward
Compare the congressional ballott totals with the President ballott totals. There are an extra 300 to 500k of Presidential ballots in each battleground state.

That is a factual assertion that can be tested.

Let's check Ohio.

President: 5.291 million
Senate: 5.016 million (94.8%)
House (total): 4.483 million (84.7%)

Looking good. Except that there were two congressional districts where they reported zero votes. If you fill in with the average from the districts where they reported results, you get: 5.123 million (96.8%)

Now, a non-battleground state, Tennessee:
President: 2.406 million
Senate: 2.274 million (94.5%)
House: 2.259 million (93.8%)

So we see that, comparing senate elections, both a battleground and non-battleground state had identical vote drop-offs between the president and senate races, and nearly identical drop for house races, when adjusted for the bad Ohio data.

In fact, presidential votes often beat the downticket votes, because there are people who just show up to vote for President. It's hard to compare the other races, because they might not be competitive. If there is no democrat in a house race, the democrats just won't vote, which lowers the totals. there were multiple house races where one party or the other failed to field a candidate.

I checked multiple battleground and non-battleground states, and there is no noticeable difference in dropoff between the president and other races; it is not true that there were "extra" votes in battleground states, and "match up" voting in non-battleground states.

23 posted on 11/24/2012 10:01:16 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: palmer; patriot08; EDINVA; jmaroneps37; seekthetruth; ScottinVA; freespirited; ...
The main reason, as in much of Virginia, is that blacks turned out more than whites.

Really? How do you know that? Blacks nationally were known to have been much less enthusiastic (statistically) about Obama as compared to 2008. If reports from black precincts showed extraordinarily high numbers of blacks voting, you can bet that there were many who voted multiple times under the supervision of, and in some cases, with the inducement of little gifts from, the Obama campaign. (Early voting enables cheating with multiple voting by the same individual.) Plus, the number of votes from those precincts could have been inflated by electronic hacking of optical scanners and centralized vote tabulators.

And why shouldn't whites turn out in numbers to vote against Obama's policies? In fact, it was generally observed that crowds at polls in predominantly white areas around the country were larger than at any election in memory. (Yes, this is only anecdotal.)

24 posted on 11/24/2012 10:05:31 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93; patriot08

Heavy voter turnout in non-0moslem loving areas was reported all day long in numerous place. Anecdotal it may be, but carries a lot of weigh.


25 posted on 11/24/2012 10:32:25 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Anyone interview Soros? nuff sed.


26 posted on 11/25/2012 3:38:28 AM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: cicero2k
This guy is not doing himself any favors and is digging the hole deeper.

Exactly the kind of thinkng that has doomed us to suffering the consequences of stolen elections until the Presidency becomes the National Lenin/Stalin/Hitler/Che'/Idi Amin, etc. Seat of Absolute Power.

27 posted on 11/25/2012 4:58:08 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: justiceseeker93
Blacks nationally were known to have been much less enthusiastic (statistically) about Obama as compared to 2008.

Not here in Virginia. Every Obama group was more enthusiastic than 2008 except the white urbanites and suburbanites who voted from him in 2008, but he made up for that with enough new female white voters to make the difference in swing counties like Loudoun in Northern Virginia. In Virginia coal country Obama was very unpopular due to his war on coal. In Tazewell county with about 36k voting population there were less than 18k votes with Romney winning 78 to 21. Meanwhile in the city of Petersburg which is 80% black with a voting age population of 26k, they had 16k votes which went 90-10 Obama.

(Early voting enables cheating with multiple voting by the same individual.) Plus, the number of votes from those precincts could have been inflated by electronic hacking of optical scanners and centralized vote tabulators.

That's mostly speculation. Early voting cheating is entirely possible, but the documentation and criteria are fairly strict in VIrginia. There is no evidence of hacking of computer systems related to voting.

And why shouldn't whites turn out in numbers to vote against Obama's policies? In fact, it was generally observed that crowds at polls in predominantly white areas around the country were larger than at any election in memory. (Yes, this is only anecdotal.)

They simply didn't. I talked to whites who didn't vote, they've mostly stopped caring about elections years ago. My anecdotal evidence is the opposite. In my rural county I had no lines at my polling place, all white with a smattering of diehard democrats. Meanwhile there was an hour or more line at the high school near town, near our black area and more infested with in-town liberals.

28 posted on 11/25/2012 5:58:56 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: patriot08

I would definitely include Wisconsin and Iowa on that map.

And who thinks that they’ve “discredited” his web site? Does telling the truth discredit one these days?


29 posted on 11/25/2012 12:00:27 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: palmer

Your opinion, and your “evidence” seems to always be opposite.


30 posted on 11/25/2012 12:05:09 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

My facts are simple: a city of blacks had higher turnout than a motivated coal mining county. Some people might see that as evidence of fraud. Blacks also voted up to 99% Obama (in Richmond. Some people might see that as evidence of fraud. That’s fine speculation but not evidence of anything other than a vote for their own race and more handouts.


31 posted on 11/25/2012 12:17:44 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: palmer

In other words, you’re in total denial of reality.


32 posted on 11/25/2012 12:27:48 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: bgill

>> “And yet, not a peep out of the GOP.” <<

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By now you must be aware that the GOP establishment is in the tank for global tyranny, just as much as the DNC.


33 posted on 11/25/2012 12:37:20 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Las Vegas consistently records 120% to 140% voter turnout; how can the DOP (dumb ol’ party) possibly win there?


34 posted on 11/25/2012 12:41:04 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: cicero2k

He’s not trying to do himself any favors; he’s doing America the favor of risking his life to tell the truth.


35 posted on 11/25/2012 12:44:13 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yes. I realized it was dead somewhere in the middle of W’s reign when he was taken over by pods. Then McLame was pimping for hussein in ‘08 and they totally freaked when Palin nearly backfired on them. They had pegged Romney since ‘08 and clumsily eliminated the republican candidates clearing the field. Now, quietly accepting an obviously stolen election, it’s welcome to Al Amerika.


36 posted on 11/25/2012 2:03:10 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: editor-surveyor
The reality is that Obama got 96% of the black vote. In a couple precincts in Virginia he got 98 or 99%. In Philly there were 56 precincts (divisions) were he got 100%. In Cleveland 16 precincts with 100% and about 100 with 97% plus. If you believe that inner city blacks should not be higher than the nationwide 96%, and therefore there should be 4 votes per 100 voters for Romney, there are at most a few thousand "fraudulent" votes for Obama in Philly and Cleveland times 2 (since the votes were taken from Romney)

That's a problem and it will get worse if we let it. OTOH, we didn't lose any states because of it and claiming that we did without evidence is pointless. On the barackofraudo site I click on any of the black states where it is claimed that Obama won by fraud and there is no evidence of fraud. But if you see some, please point it out.

37 posted on 11/25/2012 2:58:57 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: palmer

Your “reality” is whatever you imagine it to be.

It has no connection with objective reality.


38 posted on 11/25/2012 3:15:05 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: palmer
Blacks also voted up to 99% Obama (in Richmond). Some people might see that as evidence of fraud. That’s fine speculation but not evidence of anything other than a vote for their own race and more handouts.

I'd doubt that any predominantly black district would vote without coercion or fraud less than 3% for Romney, and I'm being very low with that number. Nationally, polls were showing (1) less enthusiasm for Obama nationally among blacks compared to '08 and (2) Romney getting as high as the 10-15% range among likely voting blacks.

Isn't it insulting to many blacks when you talk about "a vote for their own race"? Some may think like that but certainly not 99%. I heard quite a number of blacks calling in to conservative talk radio shows and supporting Romney. It's not as if Romney were George Wallace or Orville Faubus.

39 posted on 11/25/2012 5:22:05 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
I work with a few blacks. Despite their intelligence and professionalism they left early to vote for Obama with complete determination (Virginia was probably more up for grabs than other swing states). The inner city blacks had no reason to vote for Romney, he wasn't going to give them anything nor would his values inspire the Christian blacks since Romney's values were malleable. As for polls, they showed blacks for Obama 98 to 0 in early October: http://www.nationaljournal.com/daily/obama-romney-tied-among-likely-voters-20121002
40 posted on 11/25/2012 5:31:15 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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