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Who Were the Beatniks? (Vanity)
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Posted on 11/25/2012 2:47:21 PM PST by DustyMoment

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1 posted on 11/25/2012 2:47:31 PM PST by DustyMoment
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freaks on drugs


3 posted on 11/25/2012 2:55:11 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: DustyMoment

Good summary. It should be added that much of the Port Huron group sprouted from children of communist immigrants who had found homes in academia.


4 posted on 11/25/2012 2:57:23 PM PST by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years. RSC)
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To: DustyMoment

Maynard G. Krebbs: “WORK!!?? Who said ‘work’?”


5 posted on 11/25/2012 2:57:37 PM PST by NY Cajun
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To: DustyMoment

Interesting history. Thanks, eh?


6 posted on 11/25/2012 3:02:02 PM PST by Standing Wolf
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7 posted on 11/25/2012 3:03:10 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: DustyMoment

Way too long for most to read, but, yes, the ‘60s counter-culture was invented by a previous generation, most of whom seem to have managed to avoid military service in WWII. Hippies were not young people who invented themselves, as boomers now want us to believe.


8 posted on 11/25/2012 3:05:25 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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9 posted on 11/25/2012 3:07:20 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: DustyMoment

Who were the Beatnicks?

Buncha’ gays looking for a context in which to be gay and yet not feel so queer. Sex was ALWAYS bubbling around close by with these “free spirits”.


10 posted on 11/25/2012 3:10:09 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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11 posted on 11/25/2012 3:11:22 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: DustyMoment

Jazz.....if you try to improvise without regard to theme, beat and chord, you wind up with garbage. Just like much of what the hippies had.


12 posted on 11/25/2012 3:15:05 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: DustyMoment

In 1972, when I turned 21, I hitch-hiked out to San Francisco and spent time in beat poet Lawrence Ferlinghetti’s City Lights Bookstore and read the days away in those decrepit chairs. Kerouac was a central figure, but I always felt he saw himself as a writer much more than a beatnick. He wrote some extraordinarily beautiful passages, and spent the end of his life in the Catholic faith of his youth.


13 posted on 11/25/2012 3:15:59 PM PST by jobim (.)
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To: NY Cajun

The 1968 movie ‘What’s So Bad About Feeling Good?’ with Mary Tyler Moore was a satire on beatniks, not on hippies as the date might suggest.


14 posted on 11/25/2012 3:16:04 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: DustyMoment
Interesting. The Beatniks were members of the so-called "Lost generation" born between the onset of the [first] Great Depression and the end of WWII.

I'm not much on blaming generations for our problems. I've seen quite enough Boomer-bashing to be sure of that. In the end, individuals act -- not generations.

15 posted on 11/25/2012 3:20:19 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: DustyMoment

MAD Magazine had a good take on their lingo:

Friends, Romans, hipsters,
Let me clue you in;
I come to put down Caesar, not to groove him.
The square kicks some cats are on stay with them;
The hip bits, like, go down under;
So let it lay with Caesar. The dude Brutus
Gave you the message Caesar had big eyes;
If that’s the sound, someone’s copping a plea,
And, like, old Caesar really set them straight.
Here, copacetic with Brutus and the studs,—
For Brutus is a real cool cat;
So are they all, all cool cats,—
Come I to make this gig at Caesar’s lay down.
He was my boy, the most and real gone to me;
But, like, Brutus pegs him as having big eyes;
And old Brutus is a real cool cat.
He copped a lot of swinging heads for home,
Which put us way out with that loot;
Does this give Caesar big eyes?
When the square cats bawled, Caesar flipped;
Big eyes should be made of more solid megillah;
Yet Brutus pegs him as having big eyes;
And Brutus is a real cool cat.
You all dug that bit at the Lupercal scene
Three times I bugged him with the King’s lid,
And three times he hung me up; was this big eyes?
Yet Brutus pegs him with big eyes;
And, sure, he is a real cool cat.
I don’t want to double-O what Brutus gummed,
But, like, I only dig what comes on straight
You all got a charge out of him once,
So how come you don’t cry the blues for him?
Man! You are real nowhere,
You don’t make it anymore. Don’t cut out on me;
My guts are in the pad there with Caesar,
And I gotta stop swinging till they round-trip.


16 posted on 11/25/2012 3:21:43 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: blueunicorn6

Quite right. And when you consider the quality of the enduring jazz 1948-1960 that parallels the beatniks, you find jazz in many ways (in my opinion) at its peak, most notably represented by Miles’ Birth of the Cool sessions, and the Miles Ahead collaboration with Gil Evans. These arrangements were crafted like jewels, certainly not the work of scatterbrained freedom seekers.


18 posted on 11/25/2012 3:24:52 PM PST by jobim (.)
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I think the word Beatnik was derived from Sputnik — the first earth satellite launched by Russia in 1957. Sputnik’s surprise launch shocked the Western World almost as much as 9/11 and caused a lot of people to question the validity of American military, poltical, and academic excellence.

Since the “Beats” were already accustomed to hanging out in coffee houses and poetry bars with the Bohemians questioning everything in contemporary culture, they quickly latched on to the idea of how great the Soviet Union was and how lame the US was. It was a natural progression.

I was in school at UC Berkeley at the time. We paid little attention to the Bohemians, and less to the Beats, looking upon them as oddities. But, then came the Hippies, as the Viet Nam War heated up, and they overwhelmed the culture.

As the Draft became an inconvenient fact of life, more and more young folks decided to attend college and to apply for student deferments. College was expensive — even in those years — and students from the eastern US flocked to Caliifornia (where in-state tuition was incredibly cheap) to wait for their state’s residence.

They had to live there for a year before they could get into school at the in-state price, and they basically had nothing to do, except cause trouble, while they waited to be admitted.

One of their favorite targets was the newly elected Governor Reagan and the Board of Regents of the University of California. They launched the Free Speech Movement, followed by the Filthy Speech Movement, follwed by the bra-less movement, followed by the braless in a sheer blouse movement, followed by the nude movement. And on, and on, and on.


19 posted on 11/25/2012 3:25:43 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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Here's the story of a mummy who comes back to life to find a copy of Edd Byrnes' and Connie Stevens' hit record Kookie, Kookie and encounters a beatnik. This actually got airplay on KFI (which now carries Limbaugh in LA) in 1959--I heard over the radio in our 1958 Edsel Villager station wagon:

The Mummy--Bob McFadden & Dor (Dor is the poet Rod McKuen)

20 posted on 11/25/2012 3:26:10 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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