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Questions tear at those who knew two slain Little Falls teens
Star Tribune ^ | November 26, 2012 | Joy Powell

Posted on 11/26/2012 9:37:12 AM PST by Uncle Chip

On the outskirts of Little Falls, Minn., Crystal Shaeffel walked down the long driveway on Sunday, past the "keep out" sign, to see the house where her teenage brother and her cousin were shot to death on Thanksgiving Day.

She was met in the driveway by the brother of Byron David Smith, the man who is in the Morrison County Jail on suspicion of second-degree murder after telling deputies he shot the pair when they broke into his house, where he lived alone. He is to make his first court appearance on Monday.

The bodies of Nicholas Brady, 17, and his cousin Haile Kifer, 18, both of Little Falls, were discovered on Friday when authorities began investigating a missing-persons report and after a car parked down the road from Smith's home prompted a neighbor to report suspicions that something was wrong.

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A series of break-ins had made Byron Smith, a 64-year-old retired U.S. State Department worker, frustrated and fearful, his brother said Sunday.

In the rear of the house, which sits on the bank of the Mississippi River, surrounded by tall pines and birches, is a shattered bedroom window, now boarded over. It was where, Bruce Smith said, the teens used a lead pipe to break the glass, crawl in, walk down a hallway and go downstairs, surprising Byron Smith as he tinkered in his basement workshop over the lunch hour.

Byron Smith never called 911 but let the bodies lay in his home for just more than 24 hours while the teens' families tried to find them. Bruce Smith said his brother was distraught and didn't know what to do.

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TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: banglist; burglary; homeinvasion; juveniles; littlefalls; minnesota; shooting
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To: Lancey Howard

Better just to shoot the weapon out of the bad guy’s hand.


21 posted on 11/26/2012 10:44:25 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: raybbr
Time to set up the evidence as self-defense?

The police might have wondered why they were shot in the basement if they broke a window in the upstairs bedroom to get in.

22 posted on 11/26/2012 10:50:01 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Venturer
According to another article, this was the 8th break in over the last few years. I would be a bit peeved by that point.

I'm guessing the homeowner may have been experiencing early-onset dementia, or was otherwise not tracking well.

23 posted on 11/26/2012 10:50:55 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Brady had attended the same school up through the previous school year, at which point he transferred to nearby Pillager High School.

"Pillager" -- you just can't make this stuff up.

24 posted on 11/26/2012 10:58:29 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Cicero
Star Tribune has more details:
Smith attempted to shoot her again, but his rifle jammed, prompting Kifer to laugh.

Upset, Smith, pulled out a revolver he had on him and shot her "more times than I needed to" in the chest, he said.

Smith dragged Kifer next to Brady as she gasped for her life. He pressed the revolver's barrel under her chin and pulled the trigger in what he described as a "good, clean finishing shot" that was meant to end her suffering.

Yes, I would think he went a bit beyond self-defense, if this is what he said.
25 posted on 11/26/2012 10:59:33 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Uncle Chip; TurboZamboni; Westbrook; NormsRevenge; driftdiver; RightOnTheBorder; G Larry; ...

See #25, and linked article, for more details. He appears to have admitted that after wounding them, he deliberately finished them off.


26 posted on 11/26/2012 11:05:03 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Uncle Chip
The police might have wondered why they were shot in the basement if they broke a window in the upstairs bedroom to get in.

He was in the basement, and shot each of them as they came down the basement stairs.

27 posted on 11/26/2012 11:14:20 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I thought about that too.


28 posted on 11/26/2012 11:25:33 AM PST by Venturer
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To: PapaBear3625

Then it looks like they’ve ALL 3 won stupid prizes.

No death penalty in MN, so he’s got that going for him.


29 posted on 11/26/2012 11:26:00 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: sakic

If you read all the stories, you will see that he went a tad far and so will probably go away for a long time.

He heard the first person coming down the stairs and shot him through the body. Then shot him again in the head at close range. The girl was coming down the stairs a short time later and he shot her as soon as he could see her hips. When he went to shoot her again, the rifle jammed. So he took out a pistol and shot her in the head from close range.

If that is a correct account of what happened I think he is in big trouble.

This is from his statements.


30 posted on 11/26/2012 11:29:43 AM PST by northman99
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To: PapaBear3625

From self-defense to 2nd degree murder with a pull of the trigger.


31 posted on 11/26/2012 11:32:26 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
From self-defense to 2nd degree murder with a pull of the trigger.

Against a 65 year old guy, a muscular 17 year old guy (from the picture in the article), even unarmed, is a mortal threat since he likely can beat an old guy to death. If the old guy is in bad physical condition, even an 18 year old girl can be a threat.

Once they're shot and on the ground, though, the plausible threat is greatly reduced. He should have just held them at gunpoint and called police.

32 posted on 11/26/2012 11:48:59 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Oooh!

I hate hearing that!

When the threat is stopped, render aid.

This at least requires calling 911.


33 posted on 11/26/2012 11:58:24 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: PapaBear3625

He shot them both in the hip before they got down the stairs. So he didn’t know or care who they were.

The first shot in the hip might have been self-defense, but the succeeding ones were most definitely murder.


34 posted on 11/26/2012 11:58:35 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Why would they go to the basement? I have to wonder if he didn’t know who they were because of some drug deal gone bad.


35 posted on 11/26/2012 12:10:58 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Lancey Howard
Heh... I have sometimes wondered what I would do in a similar situation where I blow away a home intruder. Would I call the cops, or just dispose of the body so as not to get involved in a bunch of paperwork, police interviews, possible revenge by the perp's thug family, possible prosecution by a liberal Democrat prosecutor (and all the attorney costs that would come with it), etc.

Dump the body on the porch of a neighbor you don't like.

36 posted on 11/26/2012 12:14:25 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Mr. Lucky

LOL.

I know you jest, but that’s probably be thought of in newspaper/TV stations all over the Twin Cities.

I predict this will be used by the DFL to further more criminal protection laws.


37 posted on 11/26/2012 12:57:24 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: PapaBear3625

This stinks to high heaven, it looks like these two petty criminal teens ran into a psycho killer.


38 posted on 11/26/2012 1:07:22 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischers successful run in Nebraska)
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I am all for defending one’s life and property, and the lives and property of third parties,for that matter. But waiting a day to notify the authorities raises a red flag. If this part of the story is accurate, something is very wrong here.


39 posted on 11/26/2012 1:11:13 PM PST by Godwin1
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I am all for defending one’s life and property, and the lives and property of third parties,for that matter. But waiting a day to notify the authorities raises a red flag. If this part of the story is accurate, something is very wrong here.


40 posted on 11/26/2012 1:11:13 PM PST by Godwin1
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