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'Please spare my little girl': How Mexico's fearless female mayor sacrificed herself...
The Daily Mail ^ | 11/26/2012 | Sam Webb

Posted on 11/27/2012 3:04:15 PM PST by Beave Meister

The woman mayor who was kidnapped and murdered by a Mexican drug gang pleaded with her attackers for her young daughter’s life, it emerged today.

Maria Santos Gorrostieta, who had already survived two assassination attempts, was driving the child to school at around 8.30am when she was ambushed by a car in the city of Morelia.

The 36-year-old was hauled from her vehicle and physically assaulted as horrified witnesses watched, according to newspaper El Universal. They described how she begged for her child to be left alone and then appeared to get into her abductors’ car willingly.

The little girl was left wailing as her mother was driven away on Monday November 12.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: Boogieman

Exactly. Most people will satisfy themselves with products with relatively low highs and low rates of addiction.

By introducing legal competition, it would likely lower the cost of drugs, reducing the incentive to rob and pillage, because the drugs that are costing $500 on the street could be had for $20 or so at a liquor outlet, or 7/11.


41 posted on 11/27/2012 5:40:27 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Which one? “Thou shalt not MURDER?”


42 posted on 11/27/2012 5:43:18 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Boogieman

NO, I’m a realist...there will be USERS....but, our culture has degraded to such an extent that we almost CELEBRATE them these days. Oh, and by the way, Pharma drugs have underground markets, also.


43 posted on 11/27/2012 5:46:54 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Procyon

Of course, Mexico legalized ALL drugs several years ago, but it hasn’t stopped the criminal murderous methods of those involved in its trade.

FWIW, the drug cartels announced several years ago that they were next targeting the pharmaceutical industry in the US.

After Prohibition, the gangs in the US didn’t lose power, they simply reinforced their marketing and criminal control of their enterprises.


44 posted on 11/27/2012 5:47:05 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

The market for illegal drugs is the United States. We need to reduce the profit margin here before anything can really be done.


45 posted on 11/27/2012 5:52:16 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Beave Meister

brave but incredibly stupid. you can be brave and still have some security. you can’t count on the kindness of murderous drug mobsters.


46 posted on 11/27/2012 5:55:42 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: goodnesswins

Well, as long as there are drug consumers, there will be producers and distributors. It’s simple economics; supply and demand. The supply does not produce the demand, but rather the demand fuels production of the supply. Eliminating the supply of the drug simply increases the value, making it more profitable to find a new way to meet demand.

Now, if we decrease the number of consumers, that is probably about the best we can hope to achieve. You’re right that our culture celebrates them, but that is a battle that needs to be fought in the cultural arena. Enforcing drug laws more harshly just ends up glorifying the outlaws as some kind of modern day Robin Hoods standing up against “the Man”, because a large segment of the public can sympathize with the few that get caught in the net and punished.

Reagan had a much better idea, to appeal directly to the public and try to convince them, as thinking adults, to choose not to do drugs. There’s no reason we can’t tell people not to do drugs and still legalize them to castrate the criminals and cartels. We do the exact same thing with our PR campaigns against legal tobacco and alcohol, and they have been proven to be fairly effective.

As for the prescription drugs, of course there is a black market, but that exists for the same reason that there is a black market on other drugs: excessive government regulation. There is never any other reason for a black market on anything.


47 posted on 11/27/2012 6:09:51 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Beave Meister

It’s time to legalize th crap and put the cartels out of business entirely.


48 posted on 11/27/2012 6:13:43 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Jonty30

“If regulation worked for booze, because there are no massive battles with rum runners anymore, the principle should work for drugs as well. Allow the pharmaceuticals to produce safe drugs that people can consume safely and minimal addictiveness and end the war on drugs.

It’s either that or we will end with a police state.”

A police state is just what they are working towards, the agenda behind the curtain, the source of endless cash for the corrupt.


49 posted on 11/27/2012 6:34:42 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: GladesGuru

And the war on drugs is feeling a police state.

Prior to the war on drugs, police could fairly be considered neighbors who kept the law and peace.

Now, they are nameless and faceless drones who shoot dogs to intimidate people into compliance.


50 posted on 11/27/2012 7:03:28 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: ansel12

“She stood up to the drug world, but the drug world will hijack this thread.”

Only a matter of time.

How many “legalize drugs” folks will does one run into who are not themselves drug users?

Not many, I reckon...

As far as the drug war in Mexico goes, we ought to treat the drug gangs as Mossad treats the enemies of Israel...


51 posted on 11/27/2012 7:12:09 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide

I, for one, have never touched a drug in my life. The closest I’ve gotten to drugs is riding with a bunch of MJ users, in a van, when I was involved in selling door-to door. They toked and I sniffed.

We’ve spent, nearly forty years, probably over a trillion dollars and all we’ve gotten for our money is a huge prosecution bureaucracy and rich and powerful drug lords and corrupt politicians. Everybody else is chum for the water.

It’s not working. If people want to destroy themselves, let them.


52 posted on 11/27/2012 8:14:18 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Road Glide

I, for one, have never touched a drug in my life. The closest I’ve gotten to drugs is riding with a bunch of MJ users, in a van, when I was involved in selling door-to door. They toked and I sniffed.

We’ve spent, nearly forty years, probably over a trillion dollars and all we’ve gotten for our money is a huge prosecution bureaucracy and rich and powerful drug lords and corrupt politicians. Everybody else is chum for the water.

It’s not working. If people want to destroy themselves, let them.


53 posted on 11/27/2012 8:17:04 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Road Glide

My position isn’t in support of drug legalization, it’s about harm reduction.


54 posted on 11/27/2012 8:26:26 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: adorno

>> Hey, Time Magazine, here’s a real “Woman of the Year”

Nah, the condemn bitch is much more attractive.


55 posted on 11/28/2012 1:27:37 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: goodnesswins

There are two and only two ways to stop the drug trade.

1. Make any and all drugs legal. No profits, no illegal drug trade, no associated violence.

2. Massively crack down on the users. Any black market problem can only be addressed by stopping the demand. Attempts to stop the supply only constrict it, drive up prices and profits, and provide massive incentives for new people to enter the business.

By necessity any attempts to enforce #2 would be hugely oppressive and unpopular. Probably could not be done while respecting present American civil rights. Something I’ve always found interesting is that an entire country stopped a massive drug trade in the 20th century, and nobody ever talks about it.

This was the ChiComs after their conquest of the country. A huge percentage of the population was heavily addicted to opium. The commies stopped this, using drastic methods that won’t fly in America, of course.

What greatly irritates me is the way some Americans denounce the excesses of the suppliers, many of whom are foreigners, when the cause of all this is, always has been and always will be those who provide the funding for the operation. The (mostly) American drug users.


56 posted on 11/28/2012 2:46:55 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Actually, I take that back. There is a third way, but not one Americans would go for.

Government takes all confiscated drugs, and possibly additional ones it produces, poisons them and releases them back into the market.

Users randomly die. Eventually all users will either be poisoned or decide using is too dangerous and will stop.

But this is just another, somewhat more drastic, method of attacking the root of the problem, which is consumption. Doing this will work, attacking distribution will never work.


57 posted on 11/28/2012 2:53:07 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

NOW, that would work to kill the “desire”...except for the truly demented....maybe even starting a rumor that the drugs coming in are “tainted” with poison right now by some legitimate group could help. If drugs are “regulated” by the government we’d just have “regulation problems” and an underground market for NON-regulated drugs....it’s never ending...it’s a culture problem.


58 posted on 11/28/2012 6:01:57 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Beave Meister

Incredibly, even people HERE do not get it. Ask yourself a question: How many times has GayMuzzie given off signs of LIKING free markets...? Never, right? Leftists in general and GayMuzzie in particular find them confusing, and difficult to TAX.

Much better for the lefty antiMarketist is a cartel, or a MONOPOLY.

Why are people forgetting that GayMuzzie struck a secret bargain with the SINALOA CARTEL...? He is PARTNERS with them, the same spooky way he appears partners with the type of people responsible for Bengazi; Barry is verrrrry much for ENGAGEMENT, mostly in ways have that not yet come fuly to light.

Anti-drug war people talk and talk about how drug illegality provides high profits for criminals, but since the biggest criminal is GayMuzzie, how likely is it that he’d legalize it, and provide for market entry for allll kinds of competitors on HIS PRODUCT sold to HIS consumer base?

GayMuzzie does not like markets cuz theCOMy’r confusing to him (and to all lefties) and because taxing a designated monopolist would be much more lucrative for him.

NO MARKET AND NO COMPETITORS.

Where there is smoke, there is Choom Gang, and this is GayMuzzie’s handiwork.


59 posted on 11/28/2012 7:45:37 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Road Glide; ansel12
How many “legalize drugs” folks will does one run into who are not themselves drug users?

I use no drugs - including the lethal mind-altering drug alcohol. I support drug legalization because the only demonstrable effect of anti-drug laws is to hyperinflate drug profits and channel those profits into criminal hands, with all the ills that ensue.

60 posted on 11/28/2012 7:57:00 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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