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Little Falls shooting: Killing of 2 teens sparks homeowner rights controversy
Brainerd Dispatch ^ | November 27, 2012 | Amy Forliti AP

Posted on 11/28/2012 7:28:26 AM PST by Uncle Chip

Edited on 11/28/2012 7:35:26 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

MINNEAPOLIS (AP)

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To: Usagi_yo
Sounds like he talked too much.

Yes and No. The facts at the scene of the shooting raised questions that had to be answered. His answers to those questions were a bit much.

21 posted on 11/28/2012 8:06:41 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
"Did he have the right to shoot them? Yes he did."

Period, end of story....or should have been.

Is there a law that states how many times you can shoot a perp who breaks into your home?

22 posted on 11/28/2012 8:09:01 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.ess)
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To: Uncle Chip
I don't like the way this guy ended these two repetitive criminals, but the only way I would give the state any power over him is if the two had gone to his house with only legitimate intent.

For a victim to have his life destroyed, a criminal has to get lucky just once for a second. The victim must be alert, on guard, and physically capable of defending himself 24/7, 365, for life.

Only dead criminals can't come back when you're asleep, sick or injured.

23 posted on 11/28/2012 8:13:36 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: mquinn

He should have buried the bodies and kept his mouth shut.


24 posted on 11/28/2012 8:16:27 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Uncle Chip

As for me... Yes I would have shot them.... I would have done it in a way that insured that they could not attack or escape. i would have placed my shots in the lower torso and or legs.
But to place a kill shot under chin through the head to a young 100 pound girl.... That’s going to far... This man enjoyed the kills.


25 posted on 11/28/2012 8:20:14 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: TheRhinelander
He should have buried the bodies and kept his mouth shut.

That might have been his intent, up to the point where the police visited his house and asked if he had seen the two, whose car was parked up the block.

26 posted on 11/28/2012 8:23:22 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: I want the USA back; Uncle Chip
"When the agressor is no longer a threat you no longer have the right to shoot."

I'm sure that is exactly what those whom lives are in danger and reacting accordingly, are standing there thinking.

"Hmmmm, are they still a threat?" If they're still breathing then yes, they are.

27 posted on 11/28/2012 8:23:43 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.ess)
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To: Uncle Chip

Those questions did not have to be answered, al least not then. He should have simply admitted firing the shots and refused to say anything more until he obtained an attorney and consulted with that attorney. That’s particularly true here where he apparently fired multiple times after the threats apparently ended and killed both perps. In any case like that the the homeowner is at risk of some serious charges and needs to consult an attorney before saying anything to the cops.


28 posted on 11/28/2012 8:26:09 AM PST by libstripper
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To: baddog 219
But to place a kill shot under chin through the head to a young 100 pound girl.... That’s going to far... This man enjoyed the kills.

It's the young, cute 100 pound girls who are the most dangerous, because they can recruit horny 200 pound guys to do their bidding.

29 posted on 11/28/2012 8:26:43 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: American in Israel

Welcome to the new America. Perhaps we are sick and tired of these a$$holes getting away with their crimes.

If they were to survive they would sue him into bankruptcy.

Hope he gets a great attorney.


30 posted on 11/28/2012 8:26:49 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.ess)
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To: libstripper

Bingo. His only problem is that he said too much.


31 posted on 11/28/2012 8:30:07 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.ess)
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To: PapaBear3625

Ah, didn’t catch that. Defending your property is one thing. Executing them is another.


32 posted on 11/28/2012 8:30:09 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: TheRhinelander
He should have buried the bodies and kept his mouth shut.

I'm sure that entered his mind but he couldn't get the bodies out of the basement without help. That may be why he called his brother after it happened to come down to help him.

33 posted on 11/28/2012 8:32:16 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: American in Israel

He’d had most of his guns stolen already. All he’d had left were a Mini-14 and a .22 pistol.

He shot each of them as they came down the stairs. The woman was only wounded and possibly still a threat and his rifle jammed so he switched to the pistol.

He thought he’d killed her. As he was moving her body to the side, he noted she was still alive and choking to death on her own blood. Rather than let her expire painfully, he ended it for her with a single .22 shot into her brain.

Is that psychopathic? Are you sure?

Under MN law, he’s screwed. He’s going to jail forever.

However, these thieves deserved to die the minute they broke into his home. Period. We can quibble over method until the cows come home...


34 posted on 11/28/2012 8:39:16 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: NoGrayZone
If they were to survive they would sue him into bankruptcy.

If that's why he executed them then the law up there needs to be changed to prevent civil action after a self defense shooting.

35 posted on 11/28/2012 8:39:53 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Blackirish

A .22 will not blow your head off.

Why all the sympathy for a drug abusing thief?


36 posted on 11/28/2012 8:40:18 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Uncle Chip

If they didn’t want to get shot dead, they shouldn’t have broken into his house.

I do not care how much she weighed.


37 posted on 11/28/2012 8:42:55 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Uncle Chip

True. Unfortunately the laws we have seem to protect the perps instead of the victims.


38 posted on 11/28/2012 8:45:23 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.ess)
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To: Uncle Chip

Some times bad behaviour catches up to people and they get Trayvon’ed.


39 posted on 11/28/2012 8:48:22 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: NoGrayZone
Is there a law that states how many times you can shoot a perp who breaks into your home?

Yes. Actually, the law is pretty clear on this matter. You can use lethal force to stop a threat. What you can't do is execute people regardless of whether or not one believes they deserved to be removed from the gene pool.

And Byron Smith will soon be joining Jerome Ersland as teaching examples to those among us who still remain confused.

40 posted on 11/28/2012 8:48:43 AM PST by Drew68
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