Doha delegation using hurricane Sandy as a call to action (Climate Change Scam )

Watts Up With That? ^ | November 29, 2012 | Anthony Watts

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

There is no trend whatsoever in US hurricane strength – this graph proves it. Click for story.

(via CFACT) The latest round of climate talks began this week in Doha, Qatar in the usual fashion – namely, with alarmist claims that the world is being imperiled by manmade global warming and it’s time for “action.”

Naturally, the U.S. is being chided to join the crowd, especially since it failed to do so last time by refusing to ratify the Kyoto Protocol. To pressure Uncle Sam into getting-with-the-program, some nations, like Gambia, have shamelessly stooped to using Hurricane Sandy and the outcome of our presidential election as a prod.

On Tuesday, the representative from Gambia said:

“We hope that the year with a monster storm . . . as well as the re-elected leadership will lead the U.S. to be more active and will no longer be a disinterested bystander in this process.”

To address this matter, CFACT’s Marc Morano recently appeared on Fox News’ Neil Cavuto show and said that using storms as a poster child for global warming is devoid of science.

Watch the complete interview below.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

I know everybody is tired of hearing about Global warming...but the clowns continue with help from Government funding.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

From the comments:

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Otter says:

November 29, 2012 at 10:36 am

And let’s not forget, one of those at Doha, claims Greenland melted away entirely, in 4 days last July:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/472301/defining-success-at-doha-climate-talks/

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Defining success at Doha climate talks

The door to stayin­g below a two-degree temper­ature increa­se could shut perman­ently and as soon as 2015.

By Farrukh Khan

Published: November 29, 2012

The writer is the lead negotiator for the Pakistan delegation to the UN Climate talks and is currently working at at Pakistan’s Permanent Mission to the UN

As the next fortnightly UN led high-level talks on climate change go into strides in Doha, two contradictory trends are obvious: unequivocal scientific evidence confirming that global warming is now proceeding at a breakneck speed and the climate talks meant to alter this dangerous trajectory are trailing miles behind. Unchecked, the door to staying below a two-degree temperature increase could shut permanently and as soon as 2015.

A possible reality of living in a world with a four-degree Celsius temperature increase should hit us hard. This scenario is no longer distant or unrealistic. It could happen in our lifetime, given the abysmally low emission reduction efforts from the developed world. Despite scientific evidence, acceding parties to the Kyoto Protocol wish to lock-in lesser emission reduction (12-18 per cent) than what science requires (25-40 per cent) over a longer period; eight years versus what the Protocol says: five years.

No wonder small island nations states are clamouring that the resulting sea level rise from melting ice and glaciers would eliminate many of them from the face of this earth; the 2010 heatwave in Russia is attributed to killing nearly 55,000 people and costing $15 billion in damages. Floods in Pakistan would occur more frequently and unpredictably. Hurricanes and storms in the US would be more intense than Sandy. Recurring cyclone and flooding in the Philippine Archipelago would force people to migrate elsewhere and ice sheets melting in the Arctic would release tens of billions of trapped carbon dioxide.

The ensuing unstoppable warming would actually commit the world to six degrees Celsius or more, says the World Bank’s recently-commissioned report. The definition of success at the Doha climate talks, therefore, cannot be registering low-level pledges by the developed world, which already exist under their national laws. These emission reduction pledges are bound to be fulfilled, notwithstanding inscription in Kyoto Protocol. Success at Doha is about constructing a long-term pathway to avert the perilous four to six per cent temperature increase, saving the small islands from extinction, reducing the possibility of a dangerous nine-degree Celsius temperature increase in the Mediterranean and the Middle East during July, sustaining food security in Africa where 15 per cent of its cropland would be threatened with drought and building resilience against impending water stresses in South Asia housing more than two billion people.

There is no mystery as to what would constitute such a pathway: higher emission reduction pledges from the developed world in the range of 40-50 per cent by 2020 and certainty in delivery of commitments to the promised $100 billion by 2020 in finance to the developing world, including pledges to the tune of $10-15 billion into the Green Climate Fund, which still remains empty three years after its creation and is weakening trust between parties.

Unfortunately, it is no secret that we are far from a political equilibrium in setting these goals, let alone achieving them. It is scary to note the limitation in our understanding of the impact of current 0.8 per cent mean global temperature increase with the sudden disappearance of the Greenland’s ice sheet in four days in July this year — a picture which some thought resulted from an error in satellite monitoring. The only conclusion one can draw from such intense events is our inability to fathom the extent and depth of climatic changes we will face in a two-degree Celsius, let alone a higher temperature increase.

Climate change will not wait for political realisation in Pakistan where policymakers are still grappling with the enormity of the threat that the country faces. There is an urgent need to integrate climate change impacts in our economic and planning frameworks. Just imagine if a storm like Sandy were to hit a developing country like Pakistan. Millions of lives would be lost.

Ordinarily, the Doha climate talks could be a one-off event whose success would not matter in the 20-year-old quest for a regime against the ever-growing threat of climate change. However, the window of opportunity is so small now that every misstep or lack of action could put the world in uncharted territory. History will judge the Qatari leadership at the 18^th Conference of the Parties on very harsh terms.

Published in The Express Tribune, November 29^th, 2012.

[Fred Nerks]

... It is scary to note the limitation in our understanding of the impact of current 0.8 per cent mean global temperature increase with the sudden disappearance of the Greenland’s ice sheet in four days in July this year — a picture which some thought resulted from an error in satellite monitoring....

You bet your boots I'm sick of it, to the extent that if I could be sure global warming would cause a sea-level rise that would wash this idiot and his ilk off the face of the earth, I'd cheerfully do my bit and contribute to it...so where would I get a couple of thousand volcanoes in a hurry? (And would it work?)

[TigersEye]

I am tired of the left hanging on to the thoroughly debunked and utterly ridiculous hoax of Glowbull Warming. But you have always brought us the most informative articles with the added bonus of culling through the comments for the most interesting parts of the discussion going on.

I can understand if you're tired of doing all that work and want to pursue other subjects or other activities altogether but don't back off on my account.

[Fred Nerks]

http://z6mag.com/featured/greenland-ice-melt-rate-from-40-to-97-in-2012-1612684.html

Marlo Lewis of globalwarming.org breaks down the event into two questions: 1)Did global warming cause the huge amount of surface melting between July 8 and July 12? 2)How worried should we be?

The answer to the first question is that it is very unlikely that greenhouse warming is the cause. NASA attributes the rapid surface ice melt to a high pressure blocking pattern, the same situation that explains the recent heat wave and drought that covered most of the United States. NASA reports, “This extreme melt event coincided with an unusually strong ridge of warm air, or a heat dome, over Greenland. This latest heat dome started to move over Greenland on July 8, and then parked itself over the ice sheet about three days later.”

Professor Eric Wolff of the British Antarctic Survey told BBC News, “…As always we cannot attribute any individual extreme event to climate change: We will have to wait and see if more such events occur in the next few years to understand its significance for both the climate and the health of the ice sheet.”

As for question 2, the real concern is if the rapid melting will affect sea-level rise. Scientists agree that Greenland is only contributing about one-fourth of a millimeter of sea-level rise per year. That measurement in addition to the ocean rising with increasing temperatures, melting from other land-based ice, and the grand total of sea-rise by the end of the century is about one foot.

It is worth noting that as temperatures decreased, the thawed ice began to freeze again as early as July 14.

[Marine_Uncle]

"I can understand if you're tired of doing all that work and want to pursue other subjects or other activities altogether but don't back off on my account."

Same goes at this end. Ernest has championed this issue for a long time here. He should be given due credit.

[TigersEye]

Claim That Sea Level Is Rising Is a Total Fraud

Sea levels began to rise 18k years ago at the end of the last glacial period. They have risen about 135 meters since then which is an average of 7.5 millimeters per year. That is an average of 750 mm per century (29.5 inches) which is far more than the average over the last century.

From 1880 to 2000 sea level rose about 20 cm or just under 8 inches. Far far less than the nearly 30 inches per century average over the last 18,000 years.

[Fred Nerks]

And don’t get me wrong, I’m not sick of the very informative articles you post. You do a sterling job keeping FR up to date.

What I’m sick of is the obvious and blatant extortion behind the whole fake. And now we have a Pakistani fruitcake telling us we are all going to drown. The only way I would be happy to contribute is if I could be guaranteed he’d be floating past me during the next hurricane.

[justa-hairyape]

Watch the videos at the link. Audio quality varies, but there is some real good data in the Extreme Weather video.

More WUWT.TV video segments – Joe D’Aleo on Hurricane Sandy and extreme weather

Careful what they wish for. They have not seen extreme until they have survived this coming winter. We have a 11 year solar trend that is peaking weakly, but still excited to an average state. This short term energy will be input into a longer colder trend driven by the Pacific PDO phase. Great timing. Armageddon snows for the Aztec Armageddon. What else could go wrong ?

[jda]

As I’m sure you have noticed, the rhetoric has changed from “global warming” (since the facts do not support the religious beliefs) to “climate change” so that any weather anomaly (and probably even sun spots or storms on Mars) can be blamed on mankind’s brutalization of the earth, regardless of whether or not greater anomalies have occurred in the past, or even occurred before the industrial revolution.

[justa-hairyape]

The video mentioned in my post shows how it went from Global Warming to Climate Change to Climate Disruption and now the brand new speak Extreme Weather. Now all we need are some progressive anchor babes or whatevers to rile up the serfs.

[Fred Nerks]

http://econews.com.au/news-to-sustain-our-world/man-made-climate-change-causes-extreme-weather/

They are completely shameless; if it’s warm it’s due to human influence, if it’s cold, it’s due to ‘variations in the system’:

“Dr Peter Stott, of the UK’s Met Office, said: “We are much more confident about attributing weather effects to climate change.

“This is all adding up to a stronger and stronger picture of human influence on the climate.”

But the researchers also said that not every extreme weather event could be attributed to climate change.

For instance, the extremely cold British winter of 2010-11 was owing to variations in the systems of ocean and air circulation.”

[Sherman Logan]

There are models for damage in dollars caused by storms of different intensities hitting specific areas.

I wish someone would go back and take the recorded information about storms of the past and apply them to the same areas today to get damage estimates.

I suspect this would show dramatically that the major reason for growing financial damage is not more intense storms but rather more property at risk.

[Paul Pierett]

Really unfortunate. The hurricanes tend to hit the NE during low sunspot activity such as back in 1934. But, these idiots don't depend on information, they just want to screw us into the industrial Atlas Shrugged death march. It is sad when sorry butts in the Middle East and Africa have to wish us into a grave to seem successful. Kind of reminds me of these Christian Colleges that don't like competition less someone losses.

Tough

Paul