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Increased Airline Security Has Killed Far More Americans Than 9/11
disinfo.com ^ | 11 28 2012

Posted on 11/30/2012 7:07:59 AM PST by InvisibleChurch

Businessweek points out a staggering study suggesting that the delays and hassle caused by post-9/11 TSA airport screening procedures encouraged travelers to go by car rather than the far safer choice of flying – resulting in thousands of extra road fatalities which would not have otherwise occurred, a death toll dwarfing that of the attacks on the Twin Towers:

Created in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the Transportation Security Administration has largely outlived its usefulness. These days, the TSA’s major role appears to be to make plane trips more unpleasant.

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To: ArrogantBustard
When was the last time you boarded a commercial airliner? October 2012.

What type aircraft was it?Don't know, it was a 50 seater. I'd refer to it as a commuter jet but I was jammed into it for 2.50 hours...a very long commute!

How wide was the seat (in inches?)About 3 inches less wide than me

What was the seat pitch (in inches)?huh?

21 posted on 11/30/2012 7:41:20 AM PST by pgkdan (We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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To: ILS21R
Did you look for the pixeliztion around the three buildings I mentioned?

Well????

That's a "Yes" or "No" question, asshole.

Answer it.

Did you SEE the pixelization around the three buildings I mentioned?

That's another "Yes" or "No" question, asshole, and it has only one true answer. If you claim to have looked and not seen it, I know you're a liar.

22 posted on 11/30/2012 7:41:54 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: driftdiver
The guy claimed that the aircraft were small and cramped, as were the seats. I asked him to quantify his claims.

I ride aboard commercial aircraft frequently (all too frequently) ... His claims do not match my observations of reality.

23 posted on 11/30/2012 7:44:23 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ILS21R

We are the ones thinking, you’re the one spouting conspiracy idiocy. The plane is dark because it’s in its own shadow, the sun is low and to the left in the picture, but the plane is banking around. Which is also why the right side of the buildings are dark, we’re seeing the right side (within frame concept) of the plane.


24 posted on 11/30/2012 7:44:40 AM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: ILS21R

If He was helping us you wouldn’t be here spreading truther nonsense.


26 posted on 11/30/2012 7:49:21 AM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: ILS21R

Probably shadows, perhaps as the result of the massive farking smoke plum you see?

Seriously, not every little artifact in an image is a result of fakery, and besides, there’s VIDEO of the event in question, taken from live TV.

Seriously, go away. Nobody wants to deal with Truther nonsense.


27 posted on 11/30/2012 7:49:56 AM PST by caldera599
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To: ArrogantBustard

I fly wayy too frequently as well. I find the entire experience to be uncomfortable at best. I fly often enough to get upgrades to better seats. ones which have a little more space between seats. Towards the back of the plane the spaces are getting smaller.

I usually make it through security fairly quickly at my main airport. There are numerous airports where TSA is extraordinarily slow.


28 posted on 11/30/2012 7:50:26 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: pgkdan
Thank you .

October 2012.

Roughly same for me. Almost always on United or United Express, in my case.

Don't know, it was a 50 seater.

I like those 50 seaters ... they don't have middle seats. It was probably an Embraer or Bombardier. Small aircraft for short hops are nothing new ... perhaps you'd like to go back to turboprops? Maybe a nice DHC-6 Twin Otter? I'll admit the DHC-8 had a taller cabin than most of the small jets, but until very recently they were extremely loud.

So ... the seat was less wide than you. Coach class seats vary from 19 to 22 inches wide, depending on the aircraft. That width hasn't changed in at least 30 years.

Seat pitch is the distance between seat rows, fore and aft. longer pitch means more "leg room"

29 posted on 11/30/2012 7:53:36 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ILS21R
Wanna have some fun? Use crtl + to enlarge this photo as much as possible. Then look at the rectangular pixelization that surrounds the “airplane”. Neat huh?

That is the result of digital photography. Nothing weird. Take any photo off the internet where you have two contrasting colors, zoom in and you'll get the same thing. Here is a random image. Try it. Same 'pixelization' (Not a real word, but heck, I'll play for a while). Simple a fault of image processors.



30 posted on 11/30/2012 7:55:13 AM PST by mnehring
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To: caldera599; discostu
Last time I checked, Hizzoner the Owner was NOT a fan of 9/11 Troofers ...

Are we IBTZ?

31 posted on 11/30/2012 7:56:03 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Same here. Ain’t seen the inside of an airplane since.


32 posted on 11/30/2012 7:58:52 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Can anyone name just one single instance of TSA actually apprehending a terrorist?


33 posted on 11/30/2012 8:01:04 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

IBTZ


34 posted on 11/30/2012 8:02:14 AM PST by EnigmaticAnomaly ("The putrid, metastasizing rot of liberalism consumes only the weak minded.")
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35 posted on 11/30/2012 8:02:27 AM PST by RedMDer (Please support Toys for Tots this CHRISTmas season.)
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To: Little Ray

TSA officer quality definitely varies by city. In Phoenix, they are fairly good - in L.A., they live down to most of the stereotypes.


36 posted on 11/30/2012 8:02:39 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: ILS21R

Buh bye...IBTZ.


38 posted on 11/30/2012 8:08:12 AM PST by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: ILS21R

Oh good grief. Quit listening to Alex Jones. Pixelization(sic) is only slightly different probably due to different image resolutions.

Nutjob conspiracy theorists think there is a conspiracy in every rock just because they are too dumb to know what a rock is and not honest with themselves about how dumb they are.

IB4TZ


39 posted on 11/30/2012 8:08:40 AM PST by mnehring
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To: ArrogantBustard
Leg Room?? Ha! I paid $40 extra for Economy Plus seating and then got an emali from United altering me to teh fact that a bulkhead seat was available in the front row for only $19 more. I foolishly bought the bulkhead seat. Not only did it not offer more leg room, there wasn't even enough room for me to sit with my feet flat on the floor. I have large feet but 121/2 isn't huge.

My wife and I fly to Idaho once a year to visit our son and his family. That's the only time I'll fly...and only then because my wife is with me and I'd have a stroke and die listening to her driving instructions on a cross country trip!

40 posted on 11/30/2012 8:10:46 AM PST by pgkdan (We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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