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Teacher's Reward Program Charges Second-Graders for Bathroom Breaks
nbc ^ | 12.2.2012 | By Kevin Cokely

Posted on 12/02/2012 11:53:38 AM PST by Morgana

The mother of a 7-year-old Irving elementary school student says her son wet his pants in class after his teacher refused to let him use the restroom Thursday afternoon.

"I was absolutely appalled," Sonja Cross said. "I could not believe it."

The first-year teacher at J.O. Davis Elementary awards her students with "Boyd Bucks" for good behavior. Going to the bathroom outside of the three scheduled breaks costs two Boyd Bucks per trip.

Cross' son, an honor roll student, needed to go to the bathroom, but he sat back down because he didn’t have any Boyd Bucks, his mother said.

"He tried to hold it as much as he could, but he just couldn’t," Cross said. "He came home from school, and he was crying and really upset."

"Really, that's just unhealthy," Cross said. "I think that she had no concern for the children."

Cross complained to the teacher, but didn’t like the response.

"Originally when I first spoke with the teacher, she was just going to show my son special treatment, but then I said, 'That's just not good enough. I need for you to stop this for all the children,'" she said.

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To: Morgana; All

Bill Cosby should do a monologue on this ...

He used to do one where he said in class, he had to raise one finger for Number 1, two fingers for Number 2 - in case of a tie, Number 2 wins out over Number 1 ...

He also said it was bad enough that the teacher knew he had to do a Number 1 or a Number 2 - the whole class knew it ...


41 posted on 12/02/2012 2:32:12 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: GeronL

I sent one direct.posted a meaasge at the news outlet and they pulled it


42 posted on 12/02/2012 2:49:04 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Morgana
This really caused me to laugh. Those who complain most about there not being any discipline in the public schools were the ones who jumped on this the hardest and without any solution offered. Is it your intention to infer that there should be no rules controlling the classroom and who can and can not be out of their seats disrupting the rest of the class?? This was not a great move by the teacher. It is an indication of an inexperienced teacher who, without doubt, learned a huge lesson, BUT, all that was lost on those who are bloodthirsty for public education teachers professional hemoglobin.
One answer was great. Make them borrow against future earned bucks. A simpler way and probably more effective way is to simply let them go but make them sit in the classroom for an equal amount of time at the start of the next recess. I have two questions. How many of those who posted answers here have ever had long term teaching experience with a class of 20-30 elementary students? Why is is so much easier for you to bare your fangs and attack rather than offer suggestions that have some chance of working in that environment? No matter how much you hate public schools they will still be there when we are all dead and gone.
43 posted on 12/02/2012 2:52:50 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: t1b8zs

I’ll never hear back from that guy I guess. I’m going to write an email to everyone on the school board I guess. If I am going to be ignored, might as well go to the top.


44 posted on 12/02/2012 2:53:32 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: FredZarguna; Uncle Chip

The teacher can just tax the students who’ve earned too many “Boyd Bucks” and re-distribute the wealth to the lazy, dumb, or misbehaved kids so it’s all “fair”. Quite simple, really.


45 posted on 12/02/2012 3:00:28 PM PST by beelzepug ("Why bother creating wealth when you can just redistribute it?")
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To: oldenuff2no
Someone peeing in class is a lot more disruptive than letting a kid leave to use the restroom. Stopping class so they can watch a kid dig through their desk for "bucks" for 5 minutes and then waiting for him/her to pee their pants. Then the class has to be evacuated and a cleaning done.

vs

Letting the kid get up and go.


I think the first instance is more disruptive.

This stupid program does not work. They have been doing this for 40 years apparently. It teaches kids to hate their schools and teachers with a seething hatred.

How do you think it feels being denied permission to pee when you really really have to go? You think they can help when they have to go?

There is nothing discipinary about this. Nothing.

46 posted on 12/02/2012 3:02:50 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Be nice these types will call da man if they feel threatened as most do just going out doors


47 posted on 12/02/2012 3:03:57 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Morgana

Yup, that would be me.


48 posted on 12/02/2012 3:39:07 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Morgana; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

49 posted on 12/02/2012 3:40:19 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Morgana; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

50 posted on 12/02/2012 3:41:22 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: GeronL

Someone peeing in class is a lot more disruptive than letting a kid leave to use the restroom.

You are totally right. There is no way that rules this strict have been applied in this program for the last 40 years. That is the biggest clue as to just how inexperienced this teacher was. I can assure you that this was an incident that this teacher won’t forget and if she has any brains at all she learned a big lesson from it.

Thank you for making a constructive reply.


51 posted on 12/02/2012 3:42:28 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: oldenuff2no

It happened to me in the late 70’s, in the same school district.

I am shocked to see they are still doing this.


52 posted on 12/02/2012 3:46:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: lonestar

Was the kid not going to the restroom during breaks and was making a habit of asking to go when back in class?

I’m not making excuses for the teacher, but there must have been a reason behind the rule.

I’m not going to be critical of a first year teacher dealing with 20 or more 6 and 7 year olds....and their mothers! I would rather dig ditches!!

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Yep. I am betting there is more to this story, but the writer wants to sensationalize this, and the mother probably wants $1M in damages.


53 posted on 12/02/2012 3:54:22 PM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

When I went to elementary school in the 1950s, Sister took the entire class to the rest room. We went quietly in an orderly line, two by two. A certain number of us went in at a time, did what we were supposed to, and came out to get into the line that faced the way back to the classroom.

There was no nonsense tolerated, and we did what we were told. Not because we were threatened in any way but because we were raised to behave and to respect authority.

Oh, yeah, and there were usually about 30-40 kids in a classroom.


54 posted on 12/02/2012 4:00:39 PM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: meyer

everyone should go up to her desk and pee on it all at once.


55 posted on 12/02/2012 4:03:14 PM PST by Morris70
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To: Bigg Red

It happened to me in the late 70’s.

There is no more to it.


56 posted on 12/02/2012 4:15:23 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Bigg Red

Nope. doesn’t have to be more to it.

Happened to me - same school district- in the late 70’s.

Made no sense then, makes no sense now.

Makes less sense now.


57 posted on 12/02/2012 4:17:27 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: lonestar
Was the kid not going to the restroom during breaks and was making a habit of asking to go when back in class? I'm not making excuses for the teacher, but there must have been a reason behind the rule.

Kids love to use bathroom break as an excuse to leave their work and go dawdle in the bathroom. And they'll lie, oh will they lie. I've learned to tell my students "Okay, but you owe me 5 minutes after school." 70% of the time they stop dancing around and say "never mind."

58 posted on 12/02/2012 4:26:56 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Great nations are born stoic and die epicurean. -Will Durant)
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To: lonestar
and not all parents are good parents or homeschool teachers.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

These parents also have kids who aren't learning lick in their institutional school, as well.

There have been NO studies done that measures the amount of learning acquired in the classroom as compared to that learned in the home through homework. Homework is merely another name for homeschooling.

It is my observation that academically successful children, whether home or institutionally schooled, are doing the **same** amount of home study. And...Their parents share the **same** value for education and have similar discipline and home habit.

In other words....If there is an academically successful child, that child has been homeschooled whether he is in the home full-time or institutionalized. Both groups are **home** schooled.

My conclusion:
If every government school in this nation were to disappear tomorrow, the **same** children getting and education today would get one tomorrow. Why? Answer: Because the **REAL** work is done IN THE HOME!

59 posted on 12/02/2012 4:31:11 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Bryanw92
Boyd Bucks...Carbon Credits...same thing...

That's not a bad analogy.

60 posted on 12/02/2012 4:33:29 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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