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Teacher's Reward Program Charges Second-Graders for Bathroom Breaks
nbc ^ | 12.2.2012 | By Kevin Cokely

Posted on 12/02/2012 11:53:38 AM PST by Morgana

The mother of a 7-year-old Irving elementary school student says her son wet his pants in class after his teacher refused to let him use the restroom Thursday afternoon.

"I was absolutely appalled," Sonja Cross said. "I could not believe it."

The first-year teacher at J.O. Davis Elementary awards her students with "Boyd Bucks" for good behavior. Going to the bathroom outside of the three scheduled breaks costs two Boyd Bucks per trip.

Cross' son, an honor roll student, needed to go to the bathroom, but he sat back down because he didn’t have any Boyd Bucks, his mother said.

"He tried to hold it as much as he could, but he just couldn’t," Cross said. "He came home from school, and he was crying and really upset."

"Really, that's just unhealthy," Cross said. "I think that she had no concern for the children."

Cross complained to the teacher, but didn’t like the response.

"Originally when I first spoke with the teacher, she was just going to show my son special treatment, but then I said, 'That's just not good enough. I need for you to stop this for all the children,'" she said.

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I will laugh at the first kid who takes a dump on the teacher's desk.

This is insane.

1 posted on 12/02/2012 11:53:44 AM PST by Morgana
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To: metmom

you have the homeschool ping?


2 posted on 12/02/2012 11:55:09 AM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana

How does a seven year old get to be an honor roll?


3 posted on 12/02/2012 11:55:59 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Morgana

Unbelievable.

This is abuse, pure and simple.

Fire her.


4 posted on 12/02/2012 11:56:46 AM PST by onona (It's a good day to celebrate life, so I shall !)
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To: Morgana

I know what I would do if I had to go...


5 posted on 12/02/2012 12:00:06 PM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: Morgana

Boyd Bucks...Carbon Credits...same thing...it is simply takng a human right and turning it into a privilege—if you behave. This child will be ready for the future of the human race under Agenda 21. More than half of all Americans voted for this future. If the child is black or female, then a huge majority of his or her demographic identity group voted for this future.


6 posted on 12/02/2012 12:02:21 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Morgana

They published the parent’s name and the age of the child, but not the teacher’s name. How can they publish a story that is incomplete?


7 posted on 12/02/2012 12:03:19 PM PST by oblomov
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To: Cowboy Bob

>>How does a seven year old get to be an honor roll?

Breathe, and most importantly: BEHAVE AS INSTRUCTED. Learning is optional.


8 posted on 12/02/2012 12:03:49 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Morgana
Children's bladders are not created equal. Holding it in beyond reasonable comfort especially time after time is not healthy in the least. It promotes UTI’s among other things.
9 posted on 12/02/2012 12:07:45 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Bryanw92

I had images of “Bonfire of the Vanities” when they called the kid an Honor Student simply for coming to class...


10 posted on 12/02/2012 12:08:36 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: onona
Was the kid not going to the restroom during breaks and was making a habit of asking to go when back in class?

I'm not making excuses for the teacher, but there must have been a reason behind the rule.

I'm not going to be critical of a first year teacher dealing with 20 or more 6 and 7 year olds....and their mothers! I would rather dig ditches!!

11 posted on 12/02/2012 12:10:08 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Morgana
Cross' son, an honor roll student, needed to go to the bathroom, but he sat back down because he didn’t have any Boyd Bucks, his mother said.

The teacher needs to create a Boyd Buck Credit Union where kids can borrow Boyd Bucks off their good behaviour for emergencies like this.

12 posted on 12/02/2012 12:25:06 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: lonestar; onona

Back in our day a lot of classrooms had it’s own bathroom for the kids.

I have been told some of these modern schools don’t have this just a boys and girls bathroom in the hall. So the kid has to leave the classroom, walk down the hall to go.

I knew a little girl once (5 grade) who was beside her self because the teacher was doing this, limiting the amount of times she could go. Only here is the thing this little girl had already began to menstruate and at times needed to go (need I say more?) I told her to tell the principal what her problem was, a male principal no less and I assured her she would be allowed to go. This after having to assure her that the male principal more than likely had a wife and knew what a menstrual cycle was.

Yes we should all home school.


13 posted on 12/02/2012 12:26:00 PM PST by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: lonestar

This is second GRADE, not secondary school. When I went to elementary school (and dinosaurs walked the earth) it was SOP to ask a teacher, then go — if the classroom didn’t already have a bath adjoining it, which one school (which wasn’t particularly deluxe) had. Classes were 30 strong then. But to be sure, students were better behaved because severe misbehavior would get them paddled in the principal’s office, so bathroom was no big deal, a student would ask, go, then return, 99.999% of the time without incident.


14 posted on 12/02/2012 12:29:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Bryanw92

she must have used up all her Scrute Bucks.


15 posted on 12/02/2012 12:31:19 PM PST by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!! STILL!!!)
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To: Bryanw92

she must have used up all her Schrute Bucks.


16 posted on 12/02/2012 12:31:39 PM PST by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!! STILL!!!)
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To: Morgana

This happened to me when I was a kid ... that is, the teacher wouldn’t let me go ... so several minutes later when we were all up writing at the blackboard I couldn’t hold it any longer and went in the chalk tray. She sent me home with a note to my mother, but she always let me go when I raised my hand after that day. My mother laughed.


17 posted on 12/02/2012 12:34:18 PM PST by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Uncle Chip
What they need to do is create a government mandated Boyd Bucks Relief program, so children with larger bladders or higher threshholds of pain are forced to subsidize those with smaller or more sensitive ones.

It'll be a good way to get them to understand government healthcare.

If teachers feel they have too many students going at once, they can create Pee Panels, which will determine who deserves relief and who doesn't.

18 posted on 12/02/2012 12:36:21 PM PST by FredZarguna (Nothing against Paki's. Just paraphrasing Biden. Or Hillary. Or Both.)
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To: Morgana; Lazamataz; PJ-Comix; Charles Henrickson; John Semmens; Irenic; Country Gal; Vendome

That happened to me when I was a kid at J O Shultz (SCHULTZ?).

I didn’t call the media!!!

GAWD, I hated that system


19 posted on 12/02/2012 12:42:28 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: onona

I agree, she is a sadist freak, what do you bet she is a lesbian too?


20 posted on 12/02/2012 12:45:59 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: oblomov

I thought “Boyd Bucks” indicated the teacher was named “Boyd”, but there is no teacher by that name on this list.

http://irvingisd.net/education/components/scrapbook/default.php?sectiondetailid=18528&;


21 posted on 12/02/2012 12:46:05 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Cowboy Bob

If all your grades are B and up you are on the AB Honor Roll... pretty meaningless really


22 posted on 12/02/2012 12:47:15 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Morgana

When I was in the 4th grade the Kalifornia school I was in had a bathroom stall in the classroom. The teacher told one kid he couldn’t use it because he recently had. He also couldn’t leave his desk to go to the outside bathroom. Well, he REALLY had to go pee, so he unziped his pants and pissed right into the walkway between the desks. I’m pretty sure we all laughed so hard we all had to pee. I remember that teacher being the “you need to learn to hold it” type.


23 posted on 12/02/2012 12:51:34 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Morgana

I want to know who “Boyd” is and how he got this power.


24 posted on 12/02/2012 12:57:39 PM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I bet I'm older than you.

In the old days, the teachers had the support of parents. If we got into trouble at school we were in worse trouble when we got home. These days the parents are a bigger problem than the kids. If a kid is disciplined at school, the parents are at school wanting to fight the teacher.

Not all teachers are stupid and belong to unions, and not all parents are good parents or homeschool teachers.

This year at a parents' meeting at our local HS two mothers got into a fight. The cops were called and they both went to jail and have been banned from school property.

I wonder how their kids behave at school!

25 posted on 12/02/2012 12:59:37 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: CodeToad

If I was a teacher I’d let them go pee.

I suppose this was abused by kids in the past and that is where this program started, that must have been in the 70’s because it happened to me too.

Of course, if I were the teacher and you exposed yourself in class you’d be suspended for life and registered as a sex offender. lol


26 posted on 12/02/2012 1:00:38 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: lonestar

I was sent to the Pincipal’s Office once and after waiting for a minute I got up and left. I walked all the way home, I usually walked home, boy was my mother surprised to see me.

Of course I was taken back to the school. I did not get spanked by the principal without my parents approval, I can tell you that.


27 posted on 12/02/2012 1:06:03 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Morgana

This has been in practice for well over 10 years.

I will never understand it other than the obedience angle someone else brought up.

If you are unable to determine the difference between a kid who abuses the privledge and the one who has to go, you should not be in charge of 2nd graders.

Had to go through a doctor back in the day, for my child who truly had to go, often.

It’s disgusting.


28 posted on 12/02/2012 1:07:05 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

Happened to me in the 70’s, that is definitely over 10 years, in the same school system as this story.


29 posted on 12/02/2012 1:13:36 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Morgana

This happened to me as my school would not let you use the bathroom during recess. It was winter, cold as crap, and when the dam broke the 3 inches of snow on the ground didnt help conceal the evidence.

There is no excuse why a small child cannot be allowed to go when they have to go! You aren’t instilling any positive character traits by having a kid wet themselves.


30 posted on 12/02/2012 1:14:50 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: GeronL
I got paddled all the time in school and the last thing I wanted was for my parents to know it. I wasn't bad...there was a higher standard and I just talked a lot.

The teachers were different in those days. Growing up in a small town, my parents knew most of the teachers outside of school.

31 posted on 12/02/2012 1:21:32 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: VanDeKoik

bump


32 posted on 12/02/2012 1:21:42 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Morgana

This was done to be when I was a child, also. Needless to say, I didn’t make it. When I told me mother about it, she told me to just get up and go to the bathroom when I had to go. The hell with the hall passes and that nonsense. I never asked again for a pass. I just got up and left when necessary.


33 posted on 12/02/2012 1:27:49 PM PST by siamesecats (God closes one door, and opens another, to protect us.)
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To: lonestar

What does all your obiter dictum have to do with the price of tea in China? Bathroom visits as needed were NOT a problem with a reasonably well behaved group of 30 second graders. The only “break” was lunchtime/recess. You complain about something that I personally observed to be a non problem.


34 posted on 12/02/2012 1:39:14 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: GeronL

Here is the superintendents contact info.
Contact her and ask the teacher be severely disciplined and or fired for child abuse

Superintendent Dana Bedden, Ed.D. dbedden@irvingisd.net 972-600-5001

Lets do her the way we did the 2 idiots in Mass that disgraced the War Memorial in DC


35 posted on 12/02/2012 1:40:26 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Morgana

Liberalism’s mean streak (humanist amoral authoritarianism) is moving on the public school children and their families via teachers and staff.

Even when public school abuse is confronted by parents, they have no shame. How horrible.


36 posted on 12/02/2012 1:44:10 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: lonestar; Morgana

I didn’t get paddled much. I was a quiet kid. I was a good kid. I hated getting into trouble.

I also dreaded it. I knew it was coming. I knew I didn’t have those fake ‘bucks’ to get a restroom break, I had already used five ‘bucks’ for something else. I don’t remember what.

I asked and was refused a restroom break. I asked again and was told I needed a certain number of those ‘bucks’.

What could I do? I was scared to death. My heart was pounding. I was a kid, what options did I have?

I dug through the desk. I dug out everything and laid it all on the floor. Every wadded up paper, every broken pencil and crayon, on the floor. I was obviously very desperate to find one of those colorful ‘bucks’.

There weren’t enough. As I had known all along. Everyone in class was staring at me the whole time. The teacher wasn’t going to let me go to the restroom.

I don’t remember her name. I really don’t care to remember anyway. What kind of teacher makes a little kid pee their pants in front of the whole class?

I was sent out of the class. I remember a counselor or something giving me another pair of pants from some school closet. I don’t even remember if I was sent back to class or not. I blocked most of that day out I think.

I never had a high opinion of schools and teachers after that. I remember I had a real loathing for my mean 4th grade teacher Mrs. Coop! I did get a little crush on my 5th grade teacher, Miss Melanie Griffith (Griffin?).

Dang if Miss Griffith didn’t turn up as one of my 6th grade teachers, spelling I think! Later I heard she was dating the limping science teacher, he was always kind of funny, but I didn’t like him after that.

To make this post short.... I really really really hate the idea of not letting kids go to the bathroom!!!! I really really really really hate it!!


37 posted on 12/02/2012 1:44:32 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: t1b8zs

I sent him a face book message


38 posted on 12/02/2012 1:50:47 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Morgana

Common sense, compassion and a functioning brain are not a requirement any more for being a teacher.


39 posted on 12/02/2012 1:54:56 PM PST by I want the USA back (50% of Americans have their heads up their a$$: 0bama voters.)
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To: Morgana

What happens on the Internet stays on the Internet. This incident is going to follow this kid for the rest of his life.


40 posted on 12/02/2012 2:15:14 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: Morgana; All

Bill Cosby should do a monologue on this ...

He used to do one where he said in class, he had to raise one finger for Number 1, two fingers for Number 2 - in case of a tie, Number 2 wins out over Number 1 ...

He also said it was bad enough that the teacher knew he had to do a Number 1 or a Number 2 - the whole class knew it ...


41 posted on 12/02/2012 2:32:12 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: GeronL

I sent one direct.posted a meaasge at the news outlet and they pulled it


42 posted on 12/02/2012 2:49:04 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Morgana
This really caused me to laugh. Those who complain most about there not being any discipline in the public schools were the ones who jumped on this the hardest and without any solution offered. Is it your intention to infer that there should be no rules controlling the classroom and who can and can not be out of their seats disrupting the rest of the class?? This was not a great move by the teacher. It is an indication of an inexperienced teacher who, without doubt, learned a huge lesson, BUT, all that was lost on those who are bloodthirsty for public education teachers professional hemoglobin.
One answer was great. Make them borrow against future earned bucks. A simpler way and probably more effective way is to simply let them go but make them sit in the classroom for an equal amount of time at the start of the next recess. I have two questions. How many of those who posted answers here have ever had long term teaching experience with a class of 20-30 elementary students? Why is is so much easier for you to bare your fangs and attack rather than offer suggestions that have some chance of working in that environment? No matter how much you hate public schools they will still be there when we are all dead and gone.
43 posted on 12/02/2012 2:52:50 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: t1b8zs

I’ll never hear back from that guy I guess. I’m going to write an email to everyone on the school board I guess. If I am going to be ignored, might as well go to the top.


44 posted on 12/02/2012 2:53:32 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: FredZarguna; Uncle Chip

The teacher can just tax the students who’ve earned too many “Boyd Bucks” and re-distribute the wealth to the lazy, dumb, or misbehaved kids so it’s all “fair”. Quite simple, really.


45 posted on 12/02/2012 3:00:28 PM PST by beelzepug ("Why bother creating wealth when you can just redistribute it?")
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To: oldenuff2no
Someone peeing in class is a lot more disruptive than letting a kid leave to use the restroom. Stopping class so they can watch a kid dig through their desk for "bucks" for 5 minutes and then waiting for him/her to pee their pants. Then the class has to be evacuated and a cleaning done.

vs

Letting the kid get up and go.


I think the first instance is more disruptive.

This stupid program does not work. They have been doing this for 40 years apparently. It teaches kids to hate their schools and teachers with a seething hatred.

How do you think it feels being denied permission to pee when you really really have to go? You think they can help when they have to go?

There is nothing discipinary about this. Nothing.

46 posted on 12/02/2012 3:02:50 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Be nice these types will call da man if they feel threatened as most do just going out doors


47 posted on 12/02/2012 3:03:57 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Morgana

Yup, that would be me.


48 posted on 12/02/2012 3:39:07 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Morgana; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

49 posted on 12/02/2012 3:40:19 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Morgana; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

50 posted on 12/02/2012 3:41:22 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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