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1 posted on 12/06/2012 5:50:35 PM PST by reaganaut
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How John Lyons works them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXGLMEpXAr0


38 posted on 12/06/2012 6:40:19 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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Are you sure they were being hit? Round pen training does use a whip but not to hit the horses with but to get them to pay attention to change in command.


40 posted on 12/06/2012 6:45:42 PM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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Are you sure it isn't a lunge whip?

How to Train Your Horse to Lunge on a Line : How to Hold a Whip ... Youtube video

41 posted on 12/06/2012 6:45:52 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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"Hurts, don't it?"
42 posted on 12/06/2012 6:46:40 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("Liberalism is about as progressive as CANCER" -Alfonzo Rachel)
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We used buggy whips with all of our’s (eight) to train them for all kinds of things.


46 posted on 12/06/2012 6:59:03 PM PST by youngidiot (God help us.)
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I’d doubt that they were hitting it directly because that would only cause resistance and might damage the horse.

Normally when you train with a whip you snap it behind or near the horse to get his attention, and only flick him with it to direct him occasionally.

Trainers usually use a light lunge whip, but in some places, such as Florida, experienced trainers may use a leather cattle whip and crack it (hence the Florida cowboy name, Crackers).

I think they use a long leather lash in Mexico, too, but they don’t beat the horse with it. El Jefe would have their hide if they did...


47 posted on 12/06/2012 7:03:12 PM PST by livius
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My mother's neighbors who are illegal aliens and La Raza

Report them to the INS and when they don't do anything shoot the illegals.

48 posted on 12/06/2012 7:03:35 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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I question your report.


50 posted on 12/06/2012 7:07:10 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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There really is no reason to whip the horse for training purposes. What you thought you witnessed may not have been what was actually occurring; but if you weren’t close enough, it may have been hard to tell. Are these horses out when they are not being trained so that you can get close to the animal(s) when they are outside alone to take photos of them?

Any fresh whip marks would be visible and photographable; and you would have visual evidence when you make your complaint; whomever you choose to make it to. Your complaint backed up with photographs would force a response / investigation from law enforcement.


54 posted on 12/06/2012 7:27:16 PM PST by Reagan80 ("In this current crisis, government is not the solution to our problems, government IS the problem")
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There really is no reason to whip the horse for training purposes. What you thought you witnessed may not have been what was actually occurring; but if you weren’t close enough, it may have been hard to tell. Are these horses out when they are not being trained so that you can get close to the animal(s) when they are outside alone to take photos of them?

Any fresh whip marks would be visible and photographable; and you would have visual evidence when you make your complaint; whomever you choose to make it to. Your complaint backed up with photographs would force a response / investigation from law enforcement.


55 posted on 12/06/2012 7:27:16 PM PST by Reagan80 ("In this current crisis, government is not the solution to our problems, government IS the problem")
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I have never seen so much bad advice.

The first thing to do is get a reputable horseman who understands how and why horses are worked in a round pen and have him make the judgment as to whether the horses are being mistreated.

You don’t seem to know enough to make that determination.

Then make the decision as to whether to take it any farther.

It is very poor judgment to get some busy body or cop who may know nothing about proper training involved if the training is not abusive.


56 posted on 12/06/2012 7:31:38 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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OMG, just look at all the knee jerking busybodies, people totally ignorant of horse training automatically ASS-U-ME that the person was abusing the horse. He may very well have been abusive, but just the act of making the horse run in a circle does not automatically equate to abuse.


57 posted on 12/06/2012 7:33:11 PM PST by WP Lonestar (No matter where you go, there you are)
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You can’t use a whip in a championship FEI class.


58 posted on 12/06/2012 7:40:17 PM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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Nothing will be done. They are illegal thus no laws or order apply to them at all.

They are perfect noble savages, duh!


59 posted on 12/06/2012 7:45:01 PM PST by Individual Rights in NJ (Let's settle somewhere new?~ I'm thinking places people call "blue".)
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Ping


64 posted on 12/06/2012 9:14:15 PM PST by kanawa (FB-- Save George Zimmerman from racial onslaught)
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Video them doing it and post it on Youtube with their names and addresses.


67 posted on 12/07/2012 6:02:36 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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