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Weekly Prepper Thread
12/7/12

Posted on 12/07/2012 12:47:35 PM PST by Kartographer

Weekly Preppers' Thread to post progress, good buys, DIY projects, advice, ideas.....


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1 posted on 12/07/2012 12:47:46 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 12/07/2012 12:49:11 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Has anyone every used one of these?

Bump Fire stock for AK-47 Rifles

http://www.classicfirearms.com/bump-fire-stock-for-ak47-rifles

They make them for AK’s and AR’s


3 posted on 12/07/2012 12:50:37 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I’ve used ‘em on ARs, bu+t not on AKs.

Here’s some vids:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Bump+Fire+stock+for+AK-47&oq=Bump+Fire+stock+for+AK-47&gs_l=youtube.12...3683.3683.0.5527.1.1.0.0.0.0.130.130.0j1.1.0...0.0...1ac.2.6NjLW2fXPMQ


4 posted on 12/07/2012 12:55:19 PM PST by carriage_hill (Don't whiz on the electric fence. Awwwww-yeah!)
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To: Kartographer

Does anyone know why the mods would have pulled that story about the Maryland prepper who got raided after he drew attention by saying that he was upset about Obama’s reelection? I don’t want to make the mods upset with me by re-posting it, but it was from the SHTF Plan blog. Not sure if the offense was blog-pimping or if there was something wrong with the idea of posting that sort of information. The story made the DC television news broadcasts, so it did happen.


5 posted on 12/07/2012 12:58:01 PM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: carriage_hill

There’s video on my link as well. if the work well it could be a force mulitpler.


6 posted on 12/07/2012 1:03:44 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ottbmare

Holy carp; I was just reading that story at link, and watching the video, 10mins ago.


7 posted on 12/07/2012 1:11:45 PM PST by carriage_hill (Don't whiz on the electric fence. Awwwww-yeah!)
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To: ottbmare

I have been looking for it wondered if had been pulled.


8 posted on 12/07/2012 1:13:23 PM PST by easternsky
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To: ottbmare
It was from Infowars. I suspect that was the reason.

/johnny

9 posted on 12/07/2012 1:16:52 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

Slide-Fire and Bump-Fire are the 2 brands I’m familiar with, and they’re good. I was impressed with the AR-15 & AR-10 units. I already own Class III units on both, so it’s more of a novelty. I heard about early BATFE *problems* with them, but I guess that’s ‘worked-out”, now.


10 posted on 12/07/2012 1:23:46 PM PST by carriage_hill (Don't whiz on the electric fence. Awwwww-yeah!)
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To: Kartographer

BATFE Letter:

http://www.slidefire.com/downloads/BATFE.pdf


11 posted on 12/07/2012 1:25:48 PM PST by carriage_hill (Don't whiz on the electric fence. Awwwww-yeah!)
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To: Kartographer

Kartographer, could you add me to your ping list, please?

Thanks.


12 posted on 12/07/2012 1:28:23 PM PST by steerpike100
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To: carriage_hill

I imagine that if we ever get to a shooting war between .gov and the people, ATF approval of the weapon won’t matter. There are several semi-auto rifles that can be converted to full auto fairly easily. Changing the action can be done far more easily than 30-round magazines can be fabricated. Consequently there are only a few rifles worth converting, namely those that already have a full-auto cousin.


13 posted on 12/07/2012 1:39:33 PM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: Kartographer
Ok don't flame me please. I have a product tip but can't post a picture right now (would take about an hour to try and remember how to do it). Since I can't abide peanut butter but love hummus I discovered a product from Wild Garden they have a case of 24 single serving hummus squeeze packs. No refrigeration required and one squeeze pack is enough for one person to enjoy at a sitting with a handful of crackers. Good hummus. The case is 17.50 from a website you'll have to cut and paste

http://www.bettymills.com/shop/product/view/Wild%20Garden/BFG24098.html?source=froogle2&utm_source=froogle2&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=parts&utm_keyword=BFG24098&utm_content=Food&gclid=CN-ymZOdibQCFYYWMgod8AkAbA

I actually got mine locally through Amway where my hubby works. I think the Wild Garden website has a store locator where you can find it locally. Anyway It's a great pantry item for me.

14 posted on 12/07/2012 1:39:33 PM PST by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: Kartographer
Since we're talking guns today, I'll include this link: http://www.atigunstocks.com/
They were at my local range last weekend, and they had some real neat stuff on display. More Barbie toys for boys!
15 posted on 12/07/2012 1:41:23 PM PST by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: MomwithHope

Also noticed at Costco that their Velveeta was not in refrigeration like it is in the grocery store. Since I have no freeze dried cheese stored I picked up a twin pack. Package says refrigerate after opening.


16 posted on 12/07/2012 1:42:02 PM PST by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: Kartographer

Thanks kart! I’m heading o deer camp with my shrike up and new stock so ill let you know how it goes


17 posted on 12/07/2012 1:47:30 PM PST by DCBryan1 (If there is ever another revolution, we need to decorate telephone poles with the MSM.)
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To: MomwithHope

Kraft Canned cheese

http://www.internet-grocer.net/cheese.htm

Bega

http://www.urbanreliancestore.com/begacheese.html


18 posted on 12/07/2012 2:07:50 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: oldfart

Good point.

I bought several cases each of Mil-spec 20 & 25-rnd AR-10 mags, and 30 & 40-rnd mags AR-15 mags, before the mag ban hits. Extremely well-stocked on ammo, too.

This is gonna get ugly.


19 posted on 12/07/2012 2:10:19 PM PST by carriage_hill (Don't whiz on the electric fence. Awwwww-yeah!)
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To: Kartographer

If you’ve got a drilled well and the grid goes down you need one of these..
http://www.countrysidemag.com/issues/83/83-1/Steve_Belanger.html


20 posted on 12/07/2012 2:19:06 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Kartographer

My purchases this week were limited to some books:

Medicinal plants of North America
SAS Survival Handbook
How to build a smokehouse

My sterno stove arrived from last week’s purchase, and it is neatly stowed with the multiple packs of sterno that I have always kept on hand the past 46 years. Still not sure what happened to the original, but maybe it will turn up one day.LOL. Also arrived was a little chain that serves as a saw to add to my auto emergency kit.


21 posted on 12/07/2012 2:20:09 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer

We recently pulled our son off of gluten, which means I have to completely redo my preps. All the oats are out and certified gluten free oats will be their replacement. I’ll keep the wheat but add buch more rice. All of my purchased canned goods now have to be scanned for gluten.We are already label readers as to avoid HFCS and MSG, so future purchases won’t be an issue.


22 posted on 12/07/2012 2:32:02 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Kartographer

On the gun topic, since I know most people on FR, and especially preppers, don't have enough guns, I'm looking at the Henry Survival Rifle. So far I like it. It's 0.22 caliber, 3.5 pounds, 16.5" long, reasonably waterproof (if floats when disassembled and stored in the stock), and it can be assembled in under two minutes. I don't actually have one, so don't put too much trust in my comments. Does anyone else have one and like/dislike it?

23 posted on 12/07/2012 2:45:13 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: MomwithHope

Be careful with Velveeta type cheese. Voice of experience. The date stamped is the absolute final last day to use.


24 posted on 12/07/2012 3:04:57 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: greeneyes

Question 1: Is there any difference between Sterno cooking fueland gelling fuels?

Question 2: Is the two year shelf life hard and fast?


25 posted on 12/07/2012 3:09:49 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: goodwithagun

Hopefully “out” doesn’t mean out in the garbage, does it? Keep it and eat it yourselves or save it for trade with zombies.

My purchases this week are heirloom tomato and spinach seeds. Have been using seeds saved from past seasons but they didn’t hold up to the heat this summer so wanted to try something new. FYI, the stores here have said they won’t be getting their seeds packages in until Feb/Mar and some not until April. That’s ridiculous since tomatoes, peppers and cabbage need to be started at Christmas and most everything else expect okra needs to be in the ground in March. I am not associated with Victory Seeds and never ordered from them before but I got my order in 4 days so that’s a big thumbs up already. They specialize in heirlooms and most packages are about $2.


26 posted on 12/07/2012 3:20:54 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: bgill

Thanks I’ll just do grilled cheese sammies and use it up and check out that canned cheese.


27 posted on 12/07/2012 3:23:21 PM PST by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: bgill

No I’ll probably give the oats to my cousin. It’s just one five gallon bucket and I know she can use it.


28 posted on 12/07/2012 3:30:28 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Pollster1

I’ve been eye-balling that one for a while, haven’t held one.

I can’t remember where, but I read that it will float when taken down but isn’t waterproof, and that the cap is difficult to get off (need a knife or tool).

Also check out the 10/22 takedown.


29 posted on 12/07/2012 3:39:08 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it)
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To: Kartographer

I’ve added a couple of pictures to my rocket stove album.

Updated...
https://picasaweb.google.com/109188381423929573522/MyLargeHomeBuiltRocketStove


30 posted on 12/07/2012 3:46:07 PM PST by rw4site (Little men want Big Government!)
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To: gorush

That website is great. Found a lot of articles to read, read some and bookmarked it. Printed a copy of the plans to build a hand pumb for Hubby to look at. Thanks for the link.


31 posted on 12/07/2012 4:00:02 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Thanks, there are many variations on the design of the bucket, but this one is a good representation. I built one a while back and was only looking for a site that showed plans similar to the one that I built from. I’ll have to look deeper into the site I referenced as I haven’t been there much. Serendipitous.


32 posted on 12/07/2012 4:05:41 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: NTHockey

I am not familiar with gelling fuels. Sterno is labeled as solid fuel-no liquid to spill. It is however, alcohol based which makes it a pretty clean burn.

The boxes I have on hand are not stamped with any expiration date, and I know that I have had them for at least 5 years maybe more. Just used some the other day when I got up the electric was off and I have to have a cup of coffee first thing. It worked fine.


33 posted on 12/07/2012 4:07:47 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: bgill

I got my Bakers Creek Seed catalog this week. They said it is getting really hard to get seed for corn that has not been contaminated with Monsanto Genetically Modified.

I plant some corn each year and save the seeds just in case it is no longer available anywhere else. Corn fields in our area are pretty rare, but I am not sure how far that stuff can migrate.


34 posted on 12/07/2012 4:14:30 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

pumb=pump

I think I am becoming a really bad speller and proof reader in my old age.


35 posted on 12/07/2012 4:16:27 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: MV=PY

http://www.survivalblog.com/2012/10/pats-product-review-rugers-1022-takedown-rifle-—review-by-pat-cascio.html Nice review on the 10/22 takedown. As you say, it sounds like it’s worth considering too. I like the idea of a rifle, even just a .22, that can be carried comfortably.


36 posted on 12/07/2012 4:54:32 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: MomwithHope

Get the small Velveeta packs if you are planing to prep with it. The packs last very nicely on the shelves.


37 posted on 12/07/2012 5:04:57 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: Kartographer

Beginning prepper here. This week I learned how to make a solar oven and ways to dispose of waste if the sewage system goes down. Also bought supplies of, baking soda, hydrogen peroxide, rubbing alcohol, clothes pins,matches, salt and sugar. Also bought a lot of wrapped hard candy and popping corn that I will store in Mylar bags with absorbers. Planning to go to the Mormon Food Pantry after the first of the year.


38 posted on 12/07/2012 5:18:47 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Nonsense in the intellect draws evil after it." C.S. Lewiscrate)
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To: greeneyes

Really? I read SEVERAL of your posts last night on another prepper thread and didn’t notice any such shortcomings.


39 posted on 12/07/2012 5:18:56 PM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Mich Patriot

Must have caught them before I posted. I finally signed off because the errors were getting so frequent, my eyes were watering from squinting to catch them. LOL.


40 posted on 12/07/2012 5:57:47 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer
I strongly recommend that serious preppers get a pressure cannier.

This week we put up 52 pints of stew meat, 27 pints of ground beef and 16 quarts of ground beef. That is 111 lbs of beef that will sit on the shelf ready for easy dinners.

We also got 16 quarts of nice beef stock.

The meat came from a half a beef that we split with another family.

Yes, you can buy canned beef but the price and quality you get from canning your own can not be beat.

41 posted on 12/07/2012 6:13:40 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles

Salt and Sugar was part of my first long term preps. Double down on them. They will be good long term not just for eating, but also to barter, and help preserve foods.

Besides the liberal loonies like Mayor Bloomberg are probably going to try to outlaw them sooner or later.

Just in case, I also found directions on the internet for how to make your own sugar at home out of beets. Haven’t tried it yet to see if it really works, but at least it is stashed in the old timey cook book methods section of my collection. LOL.

I also keep several containers of bleach and lots of vinegar on hand. Vinegar also helps with food preservation, and makes a very good cleaner/mild degreaser mixed with some water and a dash of dishwasher detergent-cheap too. I have a book that has about 100 things that vinegar is good for, but I can’t begin to remember all that stuff like I used to.


42 posted on 12/07/2012 6:22:26 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Glad you mentioned vinegar and bleach. Just finished reading that vinegar can be kept indefinitely and bleach for about 4 years though it gets weaker and finally turns to salt water.

Vinegar as preservative. I had not thought of that aspect. I’m going to stock up on it now.


43 posted on 12/07/2012 8:54:07 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Nonsense in the intellect draws evil after it." C.S. Lewiscrate)
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To: Kartographer

bttt


44 posted on 12/07/2012 9:32:33 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles
Absolutely essential to make pickles and sauerkraut.LOL.
45 posted on 12/07/2012 9:41:53 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles

Don’t forget the Toilet Paper. It lasts forever, and it ain’t gettin’ any cheaper!


46 posted on 12/07/2012 11:45:45 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Do you cook the ground beef first before you process it?


47 posted on 12/08/2012 12:22:35 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Pollster1

I’ve always heard good things about them on forums. They look solid in the store.


48 posted on 12/08/2012 1:03:27 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: goodwithagun

I’m not sure if there really are “gluten free” oats. I don’t touch them. A lot of people react to them. :( so be careful. Try for rice or organic corn instead.


49 posted on 12/08/2012 1:26:58 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: greeneyes
No, it cooks in the jar so that is not necessary.

You do have to mix it with water if you want it loose. I also can smallish meatballs. Those you should brown before canning. Yes, you can can them in sauce so you only have to pour them out and heat them up.

50 posted on 12/08/2012 6:28:04 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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