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Uncircumcised boys and men may face more UTIs
Reuters Health ^ | Fri Dec 7, 2012 5:15pm GMT | Trevor Stokes

Posted on 12/08/2012 11:49:28 AM PST by Olog-hai

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To: James C. Bennett

That is simply disturbing, another reason to own guns in my opinion


81 posted on 12/09/2012 11:49:21 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Yup.


82 posted on 12/09/2012 11:53:16 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett

Is that even legal?


83 posted on 12/09/2012 12:01:46 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

That incident happen(ed/s) in America. I don’t know what happened to those involved subsequently.


84 posted on 12/09/2012 12:11:00 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett

Since you are using emotionally-charged language, I doubt your sincerity, and having seen several articles on the matter (biased and unbiased), my accusation stands.


85 posted on 12/09/2012 2:15:27 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Your accusation stands indeed, right by the public dumpster where it belongs.

“Emotionally charged language” LOL!

I mopped the floor here with your emotional senti-culty, by presenting factual arguments. It’s just that you haven’t realised it yet. Some neurons transmit slower, so I won’t blame you.


86 posted on 12/09/2012 2:21:36 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett

Please stop trying to turn this place into DU.

And cut out the overt antisemitism.


87 posted on 12/09/2012 2:26:15 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: James C. Bennett

The NYDN posts overtly-antisemitic stories with great frequency. They are particularly anti-Orthodox. Only liberals take them at face value.


88 posted on 12/09/2012 2:28:01 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; GeronL

Nice try, but no sale. Your desperation is showing.

As for NYDN:

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/three-rabbis-sue-city-over-metzitzah-bpeh/2012/10/12/

Three Rabbis Sue City over Metzitzah B’peh

Published on October 12, 2012
Written by: Yori Yanover

A lawsuit filed Thursday by Jewish organizations and three rabbis argues that a new NY City rule requiring parental consent for metzitzah b’peh, a post-circumcision ritual that involves oral suction in order to stimulate blood flow in the traumatized organ, violates the First Amendment, the NY Daily News reports.

The new rule, which take effect Oct. 21, requires mohels who perform the metzitzah b’peh to provide parents with a document they must sign, containing information about the health risks involved.

City officials say babies may contract herpes from the practice, and they cite 11 cases between 2004 and 2011, including two fatalities.

The lawsuit argues that the new rule violates the constitutional freedom of religion.

“Government cannot compel the transmission of messages that the speaker does not want to express — especially when the speaker is operating in an area of heightened First Amendment protection, such as a religious ritual,” the lawsuit argues.

City officials said they are planning to fight the suit “vigorously.”

“The city’s highest obligation is to protect its children; therefore, it is important that parents know the risks associated with the practice,” Health Commissioner Thomas Farley said.


So... NYDN or not, metzitzah b’peh is not a made-up story, but an actual religious practice. And don’t tell me next that the Jewish Press is anti-Semitic.

If you don’t see me replying to any subsequent comment from you, it’s because you made another idiotic comment that I won’t waste my time to compose a response. It will help in further weakening your case so don’t hold yourself back!

:^)


89 posted on 12/09/2012 2:51:43 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett
False conclusion from the words of that Jewish Press article, Adolf (which is only a rewording of the NYDN article). The only thing showing is your antisemitism. Obviously if you don't reply, you've fled in a typical leftist manner. Kindly keep your argumentum ad hominem off here.

Incidentally, this Talmudic thing where the kid died is alleged to have occurred sans proof. And I don’t agree with it either, if true; it certainly isn’t Biblical. It is not a legitimate excuse for your other leftist vitriol.
90 posted on 12/09/2012 3:11:23 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: James C. Bennett

Sounds pedo-like to me


91 posted on 12/09/2012 3:53:03 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: calex59; Mark17

If the myth of circumcision improving longevity of sexual intercourse by elimination of a large area of innervated tissue had any basis in truth, condoms would be marketed for increased thickness, rather than the opposite, which is what prevails - thinner condoms.

The lies that the medical community will go on to propagate to improve revenues is staggering, and the men who’ve suffered through this mutilation have no idea of their loss. Quacks out to fleece the fools, and the latter get into denial because the realisation of their loss is harder to bear.


92 posted on 12/09/2012 11:18:02 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett

BTW, he contracted the viral infection from his MOTHER, who had a cold sore. SHE testified in this and the anti-circumcision nazi’s didn’t listen. They were out to get the moyle.


93 posted on 12/10/2012 8:34:33 PM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Marie; GeronL

Yea, like that was the only incident, and as if it makes the act of a mohel orally sucking the mutilated penis of an infant all fine and dandy.


94 posted on 12/10/2012 9:53:31 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

THAT is not a real MOTHER.

When my son was cut *I* died. I swear, I’m still traumatized. He doesn’t care or remember a thing.

When I talk about it, he rolls his eyes. If it weren’t necessary to his having a covenant with G-d, I wouldn’t have done it.

No true mother can stand to see her child in pain. That is sick.


95 posted on 12/10/2012 9:53:52 PM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: James C. Bennett

You are speaking of an ancient practice that led to fewer infections for infants, men and the women that they later married.

Back when the practice of filling the mohel’s mouth with wine and covering the freshly circumcised penis with that wine was first done, humanity had no knowledge of bacteria. The mohel was giving the infant an antibiotic covering over the fresh wound. We didn’t know why it worked, but it did. If the mohel performed his duties well, the child wouldn’t become infected.

Anti-semites have perverted the practice. Made it sound like some sort of child molestation.

It’s not. It’s sanitation.

Now, in my mind, there is no reason for anyone but a Jew to do this. If others want to follow the example, fine. But our ways have proven sound for three thousand years and work for US. There are many more traditions that have have proven protection for our health in the long run, in addition to this one.


96 posted on 12/10/2012 10:02:39 PM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: James C. Bennett

“If the myth of circumcision improving longevity of sexual intercourse by elimination of a large area of innervated tissue had any basis in truth, condoms would be marketed for increased thickness, rather than the opposite, which is what prevails - thinner condoms.”

Oh, please. There are condoms with NUMBING AGENTS advertized to make a man last longer.


97 posted on 12/10/2012 10:04:42 PM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Marie
When my son was cut *I* died. I swear, I’m still traumatized. He doesn’t care or remember a thing.

I don't remember, but I was told that I was unable to walk for over a year, bedridden and in diapers. ;-)
98 posted on 12/10/2012 10:16:13 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Marie

Condoms with numbing agents are all but unknown, and nowhere near as popular as condoms that are made as thin as possible to IMPROVE sensitivity. Go to a random store and find out your odds of being able to obtain the aforementioned lidocaine-laced condoms. Also check why men avoid condoms in the first place.

The only testimony that matters is that from adults who have undergone circumcision post-sexual experience and their reporting decreasd sexual satisfaction is near unanimous, which has resulted in another lucrative surgical procedure called “reverse circumcision”.

The market speaks truths that are not manipulable, unlike subjective opinions.


99 posted on 12/10/2012 11:49:43 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Marie
You are speaking of an ancient practice that led to fewer infections for infants, men and the women that they later married.

Back when the practice of filling the mohel’s mouth with wine and covering the freshly circumcised penis with that wine was first done, humanity had no knowledge of bacteria. The mohel was giving the infant an antibiotic covering over the fresh wound. We didn’t know why it worked, but it did. If the mohel performed his duties well, the child wouldn’t become infected.

Anti-semites have perverted the practice. Made it sound like some sort of child molestation.

It’s not. It’s sanitation.

Now, in my mind, there is no reason for anyone but a Jew to do this. If others want to follow the example, fine. But our ways have proven sound for three thousand years and work for US. There are many more traditions that have have proven protection for our health in the long run, in addition to this one.

Why don't you call for the stoning to death of those who disobey the "laws" of your cult as in Deutoronomy, for the sake of intellectual honesty? The Torah is "forever", after all, and doesn't it call for stoning-to-death punishments for several mundane acts? If you can disobey these, then why not the circumcision requirements? Why this selective application of the Torah? Also call for animal sacrifices while at it. Because, otherwise, you are picking and choosing tenets of your religion to your satisfaction...

100 posted on 12/11/2012 12:04:07 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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