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To: Wonder Warthog
As treated? The whole thread, the whole reason for it, was to SNEER. That is proven by the source chosen, as was pointed out to you. (But you can't admit that.)

That's what I "see plainly" but you can't face concerning yourself, hiding behind the mr. scientist act while getting in a few putdowns, whenever possible... giving you another opportunity to call others "clueless". Sick ego ya' got there matey. pathetic. speaking of "pathologies". HA!

Go ahead. Give me another round of self-justifying crap whining about how others "started it", even while mainstream science still shies away from LENR related work to a large degree, in fear of ruining their reputations.

Are you going to call me clueless for saying THAT? Does it induce a reaction within you to explain why that is so (but not exactly rightly so) while more anger stirs within yourself concerning my alleged cluelessness -- which you'd be more than happy to tell me about once again?

Let me re-cap for you then way things more went around here;

Like I said, it's going to take a while to clear the taint here on FR because of that history HERE.

Otherwise, as towards the broader picture, beyond all this personality friction;

Trying to clear the air, and have some of that which LENR research has produced become more accepted, isn't going to create the wider spread effect you are hoping for, if it becomes a hobbyhorse platform for you or others to salve wounded pride & ego. Which is what this thread was all about, really, with the science being secondary.

Don't you get it? Admit it to yourself at least, or remain fragile. THAT said, I will admit I'm punishing you a bit for the failings and sins of another's quite fragile, even brittle personality, but I'm getting lumped in with those even of the science community who have consistently panned the entire cold fusion idea (which has changed since Pons & Fleischmann) leaving the impression I'm being punished (with insults) for that lack of acceptance among others.

How convenient for you, to have so many readily available whipping boys to bash, so that you may GET EVEN with the world!!!

Clueless? Not about you, your motivations, your pride & fears (which is what I've been talking about the last several posts) and how those are bound up with all the rest of the LENR information. I see right through the act. But keep it up, it gives ME something to ridicule.

The other thread didn't have any of this sort of back-and-forth, did it? Allow yourself to instructed as to technique by the other example? --- if gaining acceptance of LENR is a goal. Try discussing it without internalizing the information, and whatever is said concerning it?

Or remain being a prick about it, making sure to include aspersions towards others when speaking of the subject, if that's what blows your dress up. The choice is entirely up yours.

158 posted on 12/16/2012 11:17:22 AM PST by BlueDragon (I sang Dixie as he died The people just walked on by as I cried...)
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To: BlueDragon
"As treated? The whole thread, the whole reason for it, was to SNEER. That is proven by the source chosen, as was pointed out to you. (But you can't admit that.)"

Nope. Totally and completely wrong. I picked the first "non-Rossi" (i.e. without the word "E-Cat" somewhere in the title or origin) blog SPECIFICALLY because the owner of the blog is known as THINKING ROSSI IS A FRAUD, and it gave a link to the Iwamura work.

Also, among those who follow alternate energy work, "New Energy and Fuel" is considered a very reliable source. The "tone" of the article and the title of the article are totally his and had precisely zero to do with why I picked it.

If I had happened to hit a different blog, the title and tone of the article would probably be different.

But the choice was strictly happenstance.

So you see, your very first supposition is wrong.

And the rest of your blather is strictly from your own imagination and prejudices.

"even while mainstream science still shies away from LENR related work to a large degree, in fear of ruining their reputations."

True, unfortunately. A situation generated by a small group of pathological skeptics from the hot physics community to protect their funding sources.

"Are you going to call me clueless for saying THAT?"

Yup. I sure am. Go educate yourself on the actions of the physicists when CF was first getting started up, and continues even unto the present day. REALLY "dirty pool".

Krivit covers it quite nicely on his site, as did Eugene Mallove before his death. Pretty much every non-biased journalist has noted the same things.

"Does it induce a reaction within you to explain why that is so (but not exactly rightly so) while more anger stirs within yourself concerning my alleged cluelessness -- which you'd be more than happy to tell me about once again?

Anger??? No. A bit of sadness, perhaps.

It's no sin to be clueless (ignorant). What "is" a sin is to refuse to look at information to relieve the ignorance....that qualifies as stupidity.

Here's a quote for Leonardo da Vinci which applies:

"There are three classes of people.....those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see."

"Like I said, it's going to take a while to clear the taint here on FR because of that history HERE."

Oh, I suspect that the air will never be cleared. The "good manners" thread is already veering.

I suggest you leave the psychoanalysis to professionals.

159 posted on 12/16/2012 4:29:28 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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