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Windows 8’s uptake falls behind Vista’s pace
Computer World ^ | December 27, 2012 10:55 AM ET | Gregg Keizer

Posted on 12/30/2012 2:21:48 AM PST by Olog-hai

With just a week left in the month, Windows 8’s usage uptake has slipped behind Vista’s at the same point in its release, data from a Web measurement company showed.

According to Net Applications, Windows 8’s online usage share through Dec. 22 was 1.6% of all Windows PCs, an uptick from 1.2% of November. Windows 8 publicly launched on Oct. 26. At the same two-month mark in Vista’s release timetable, that OS accounted for 2.2% of all Windows systems, double the month prior. …

The slowdown in uptake of Windows 8 and its poor performance compared to Vista is a troubling sign for the new operating system. Vista has been labeled a rare Microsoft failure, in part because it was adopted by far fewer customers than either its predecessor, Windows XP, or its successor, Windows 7. …

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KEYWORDS: microsoft; windows8; windowsmojave; windowsvista
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1 posted on 12/30/2012 2:22:02 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Even numbered Windows releases are terrible


2 posted on 12/30/2012 2:25:10 AM PST by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: Crazieman
Have you tried Windows 8?

I am very content with my Windows 7 computer.

3 posted on 12/30/2012 2:45:33 AM PST by Post5203 (I bought 6 marines a beer at a bar recently and not one said thanks. I won't do that again.)
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To: Olog-hai

My computer crashed and I needed a quick replacement so bought a cheap laptop with Windows 8. I absolutely despise taking familiar landscapes away from me to “force” me to adopt the new design (yahoo mail take note).

Windows 8 is New Coke.

If I wanted over-sugared, watered down pepsi, I would have bought a pepsi, let some ice melt in it, and put a few packs of sugar in it.

And. If I wanted an operating system that’s impossible to work on, I wouldn’t have bought a windows system. Microsoft has never held a claim to technical superiority. Their major market benefit is familiarity. When you blow off the very reason why your customers choose you, it can’t be very surprising that the result is lower usage.

Windows 8 is garbage. It doesn’t matter what new-fangled crap they put in it if it’s so damn impossible to navigate.

Windows 8 is garbage.


4 posted on 12/30/2012 2:46:26 AM PST by ziravan (Choose sides.)
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To: Olog-hai
“Touch Screen” controls for phones and tablets and presentations are very important.

But for desktop PC’s?

Forget about it.

No one is going to upgrade a desktop PC to get “Touch.”

I've had “Touch” and a wireless mouse for 12 months.

I experimented for two days with “Touch.”

Ridiculous - a mouse takes less effort, less thought, less time, and you don't have finger smears all over your screen.

And no one is going to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8 unless it offers a clearly superior video experience, which it does not.

I've got Windows 7.

Not one problem in 12 months.

Why would I change?

5 posted on 12/30/2012 2:52:34 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: Post5203

I’ve had Windows 8 for two weeks now. It is hard to figure out. Some of the processes are not intuitive. Usually I can figure out actions by clicks and keyboard shortcuts; it’s not working with “8”

If I did not have twin monitors I would have trashed 8 within a week.

I get the feeling that 8 is made for touch screens. I can visualize how it would interrelate between phones, pads and a touchscreen computer. Also, it has some good design features if you’re an email, texting, twitter or facebook fiend.

If you’re a small business owner who does not use those programs, save your money and stick with 7. If I cannot figure out some issues, I’ll be reformatting and returning to 7 soon. 7 worked beautifully; I thought 8 would be better. It’s not. It’s different.


6 posted on 12/30/2012 3:02:16 AM PST by Loud Mime (Conservatives refused to unite; now we pay the price!)
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To: Loud Mime

Have you tried reverting from the METRO interface to the standard? If so, how radically different is 8 from 7? I am currently using Windows Phone 8 and like it, but I would not want it on a standard laptop. On a tablet or a nicely designed touch screen interface, it would be a tossup.


7 posted on 12/30/2012 3:15:04 AM PST by Woodman
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To: zeestephen

I’ve had Win-7 Pro on all of my PCs, since ‘09, and have OEM disks from my IT guys. I’ll stay w/ 7.


8 posted on 12/30/2012 3:36:31 AM PST by carriage_hill (Have A Happy & Healthy New Year!)
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To: Olog-hai

For all of the negative press it received, I’m happy with my Vista Home Premium 32 bit.


9 posted on 12/30/2012 4:03:29 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: ziravan

Windows 8, the JC Penneys of Operating Systems.


10 posted on 12/30/2012 4:08:39 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Post5203

Yes and Windows 8 sucks, looks as if it was designed by graduates from Los Angeles Public Schools, bought new laptop yesterday, came with Win8, and it Would let me install Linux or Windows7 so I took it back and exchanged it for the last one they had that came with Win7, Installed Ubuntu and all is good. If you ask me They screwed the Pooch on this one and hopefully Secure Boot will piss off enough people to actually knock Microsoft off of their tyrannical pedastel. I was not the only one returning computers because of Win8, lets just hope it cathces on.


11 posted on 12/30/2012 4:26:26 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: eyeamok

oops typo should be WOULD NOT let me install anything else


12 posted on 12/30/2012 4:30:04 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Cvengr

Agreed. 8 is a dog.


13 posted on 12/30/2012 4:50:49 AM PST by Thebaddog (Obama won, we are so screwed.)
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To: Yo-Yo

> For all of the negative press it received, I’m happy with my Vista Home Premium 32 bit.

I use Vista too. My machine came with Windows 7, but after reading several articles on comparing the systems, I downgraded to Vista 64bit. I use many very large files and Vista handles large (10GB+) files better than any of the other systems. Windows 7 was optimized for file handling while Windows 7 was optimized for the graphical user interface. I made my decision when I tried to use the Windows 7 virtual PC system. The boys at Microsoft took stuff out of the virtual machine that was there with Vista and I was used to it. I do have to admit, Vista’s GUI sucks big time, but I can use it and that’s aboout it.


14 posted on 12/30/2012 4:58:55 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
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To: BuffaloJack

Ordered a new Dell the other day - with Windows 7!


15 posted on 12/30/2012 5:05:32 AM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: Thebaddog

It’s WinME that you can poke!

[bring back 2000 Pro]


16 posted on 12/30/2012 5:25:12 AM PST by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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To: Olog-hai
Vista is a virus. My XP is a faster and easier than my new 65 bit virus vista. Calcstar has to be the fastest spreadsheet ever made.
17 posted on 12/30/2012 5:42:38 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Olog-hai

I’m a Mac guy, and I have been, forever.

I do have a Windows installation on an NTFS drive in my Mac Pro, and I have run XP, Vista, and Windows 7 on that drive since 2003.

Windows 7 is quite useable, much more so than XP or Vista. From what I’ve seen of Windows 8, it seems like a downgrade. Time will tell.


18 posted on 12/30/2012 5:46:48 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved, or not at all)
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To: Olog-hai

Setting new standards for stinkage


19 posted on 12/30/2012 5:48:26 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Olog-hai

Setting new standards for stinkage


20 posted on 12/30/2012 5:48:39 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Olog-hai

It seems to me that MS was trying to hard to integrate a new tablet (way overpriced) into the PC world. It would have worked if they simply offered and upgrade to W7.

I have one PC with 8 and it seems okay. Can’t really tell the difference. I am used to the tiles because I have Windows phone.

I haven’t yet tried to run any heavy editing programs on 8. I did download Adera for my son and the graphics are pretty good.

I liked 7 so much, and I imagine there are millions who do, that there is no real reason to upgrade to 8. Touch screens, which is what 8 was intended for, are very expensive and not readily available. Also, unless you want sit right in front of the screen and give up the keyboard, I don’t see how it’s going to work.


21 posted on 12/30/2012 5:49:00 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: ziravan
I absolutely despise taking familiar landscapes away from me to “force” me to adopt the new design
Download and install Classic Shell - it's free. You'll (almost) never know Win 8 is your OS.
22 posted on 12/30/2012 5:55:00 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Olog-hai

It’s a tablet OS shoehorned into PC’s. And other tablet OS’s are better and well established.


23 posted on 12/30/2012 6:03:15 AM PST by motor_racer (Pete, do you ever get tired, of the driving?)
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To: oh8eleven

This site discusses Win8 and also has instructions on how to revert to the “Classic Shell” look. I downloaded Win8 and run a dual-boot. Played with 8 for a while and did not like it.

http://pureinfotech.com/


24 posted on 12/30/2012 6:11:31 AM PST by radioone
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To: Olog-hai

Like every OS it’s ever released, this one too will be the last nail in Microsoft’s coffin.


25 posted on 12/30/2012 6:12:57 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Olog-hai

“According to Net Applications, Windows 8’s online usage share through Dec. 22 was 1.6% of all Windows PCs, an uptick from 1.2% of November. Windows 8 publicly launched on Oct. 26. At the same two-month mark in Vista’s release timetable, that OS accounted for 2.2% of all Windows systems, double the month prior. …”

So let’s read this like we would read most other stuff posted here from suspected news outlets. This site recently reported that MS’s market share had “fallen” to 26% or so percent after they magically counted all tablets and smartphones as the same as desktop PCs.

So why am I not surprised that they are trolling around the net looking at a company that measures hits to websites as some sort of “proof” to back up their deranged mission to bash Windows 8.


26 posted on 12/30/2012 6:22:34 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: tacticalogic

I think that once I get my new PC loaded up and running, I may download Win-8 and install it on the old one. That is, if I can still get it for $40 from MS.

I might enjoy playing with it to see what it can do, but I don’t want it on my active machine.


27 posted on 12/30/2012 6:30:56 AM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: Yo-Yo
For all of the negative press it received, I’m happy with my Vista Home Premium 32 bit.

I have Vista 64 Business. I don't understand the negative press either except perhaps to confirm that the typical journalist is a mental midget. The major, but fixable problem with Vista is that many of the annoying, useless, and resourse draining bells and whistles are turned on by default, even thought they add nothing to the average user experience and if anything, they are a confusing distraction and a drag on the operating system. I searched the net for "Vista tweaks" and in about two hours I was able to reconfigure the the default settings so that annoying and useless bells and whistles are turned off by default or never load in the first place. The result is a fast and stable operating system that rivals my experiences with Windows 7. Indeed, in many respects Windows 7 is Vista with the annoying and resourse hogging bells and whistles turned off by default.

28 posted on 12/30/2012 6:50:10 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Olog-hai

Microsoft convinced me that my computer is really pretty good and does not need replaced.


29 posted on 12/30/2012 6:51:37 AM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: oh8eleven

“Download and install Classic Shell - it’s free. You’ll (almost) never know Win 8 is your OS.”


DITTOS!

That is the only thing which stopped me from returning an HP laptop I purchased for my wife.

It now looks and behaves like a Win 7 PC.

I have never detested an OS as much as Win 8. It does not belong on a PC but has a niche on a dumb phone, you know the phones used to play music badly, to surf the internet expensively, to read a book until your eyes bleed, to text the person next to you, oh and occasionally make a phone call assuming you have reception.

No wonder MS though they could sell Win 8 after all the cell phone marketers have been selling crap for years at a huge profit to people willing to buy piss poor quality.


30 posted on 12/30/2012 6:53:23 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Olog-hai
Had been planning on buying new Lenovo A520 with WIN-8 after the first of the year. However, all the complaints/bitching about WIN-8 have caused me no small amount of concern. My current PC is 9 years old and still works fine. A bit glitchy with graphics etc.

Read 4 pages of reviews on CNET and vast majority were negative. Some call it "VISTA redux." Absence of Start seems to anger many. Business people do not like it.

So guess I'm in a holding pattern for awhile. Plan on visiting Best Buy after kids go back to school next week and crowds dissipate. Perhaps I can get a better feel for WIN-8 in person, as opposed to Youtube...

31 posted on 12/30/2012 7:12:39 AM PST by donozark (I was planning to spend Christmas in Damascus, until I read Isiah 17:1...)
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To: Post5203
I am very content with my Windows 7 computer.

Yep - they do something decent with XP and 2000, then go back to the old trick of over-hyping a POS OS in the hopes of flooding the market with another product poeple will be only too willing to replace by purchasing the next one coming down the pike to replace it...

32 posted on 12/30/2012 7:16:25 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: donozark

Should mention I use WIN-XP-Home. Have had few problems with it. At my age I do not fear change for the better. Change for the worse? Yes, of course. Not saying WIN-8 is the turd in the punch bowl. Just saying many, many prospective buyers have concerns.


33 posted on 12/30/2012 7:30:19 AM PST by donozark (I was planning to spend Christmas in Damascus, until I read Isiah 17:1...)
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To: ziravan

Just buy start8 from stardock for $5 and you get the start button back.


34 posted on 12/30/2012 7:35:23 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Olog-hai

Not that I needed a new computer - but after reading FR reports on Win8 recently, it seemed prudent to get a new computer —> with Win7. Yes, they are available, and seem to be in a certain demand.


35 posted on 12/30/2012 7:42:24 AM PST by PraiseTheLord (economic civil war ?)
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To: meyer

I’m running Win 8 on this PC and it’s OK. The start menu...rather than being a pop-up menu is a full screen.

Getting the start menu to look the way I want has been tedious, but now that it is what I want I don’t hate Win 8. It uses fewer system resources than Win 7 and my total CPU usage is substantially lower with Win 8. Overall I’m not hating on it, but I’m not lovin’ it either. Essentially neutral. And for $40 it is acceptable.


36 posted on 12/30/2012 7:42:52 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: Labyrinthos
You are correct about the annoying bells and whistles. Look at this from the viewpoint of a small business (the market segment for which our company provides IT services). The average employee is not capable of making these changes nor would the average employer see that as a good use of time. So they pay their IT staff to do the configuration. Now they have not only paid for an operating system, but have paid again to have it configured so it is usable -— insult to injury for sure.

Also at the time Vista came out the majority of applications common to small businesses were not yet ready for 64 bit OS. People were content with Windows XP and if there software vendors were not driving the upgrade in didn't happen. By the time Windows 7 came out, vendors were more often than not ready for 64 bit operating systems.

Truth - I still have many customers who are running business critical applications in XP mode on Windows 7 and the majority of the new machines are requested with 32 bit OS because of driver issues with legacy devices.

37 posted on 12/30/2012 7:43:44 AM PST by Roses0508
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To: Olog-hai

I updated day one. And de-updated day four.


38 posted on 12/30/2012 7:44:02 AM PST by Cyman
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To: Wurlitzer
the phones used to ... text the person next to you
Even if that person is in the car you're driving!

39 posted on 12/30/2012 8:04:58 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: for-q-clinton

That begs the question as to why.

Also makes me wonder if there are any Win 3.1 former users that miss the Program Manager . . . ?


40 posted on 12/30/2012 8:13:44 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Also makes me wonder if there are any Win 3.1 former users that miss the Program Manager . . . ?

I remember program manager. Not too fond of it, but I was pretty fond of Dos Shell. Functionally, it was superior.

41 posted on 12/30/2012 8:33:55 AM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: Olog-hai
Could it be that having been suckered by Microsoft on Vista, people are not going to make that mistake a second time?
42 posted on 12/30/2012 8:42:23 AM PST by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: Olog-hai

bmp


43 posted on 12/30/2012 8:42:46 AM PST by Texas Tea
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To: Loud Mime
I get the feeling that 8 is made for touch screens.

From early articles on 8, it's MS' attempt to merge the interfaces of both the desktop & handhelds.

I'm still on XP. I recently upgraded a hard drive, and migrated the old system partition to the new drive with fewer miles, er, hours, on it.

I also added or replaced other things, so it phoned home to Seattle. MS took the opportunity to not recognize the OS as legit (Same cpu, mobo, and old disk still installed), and tried to sell me 7, my mobo setup not up to the 8 minimum.

I had to pull out the XP install disk and license, but fortunately, the self repair feature worked, for the most part.

44 posted on 12/30/2012 9:04:54 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Cyman
What were the specific reasons you dumped WIN-8?

The UI seems to be the major one. Others on CNET stated WIN-8 does not play well with FIREFOX.

Beginning to feel MS blew it big on this one...

45 posted on 12/30/2012 9:19:56 AM PST by donozark (I was planning to spend Christmas in Damascus, until I read Isiah 17:1...)
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To: Salamander

“It’s WinME that you can poke!

[bring back 2000 Pro]”

Dang, I still have NT disks. Let’s go for it!


46 posted on 12/30/2012 10:27:49 AM PST by Thebaddog (Obama won, we are so screwed.)
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To: zeestephen

I feel as you do about my desktop, but have fallen in love with the combo of my iPad and a stylus. The screen stays much cleaner and the navigation works smoothly.

Windows 8 scares me. I’ve just gotten 7 to where I like it and the $20 upgrade to Win 8 Pro (new computer promo) does not allow a dual boot install. I think I’m going to pass.

But just in case I’ve already downloaded a tweak to get rid of that hideous new Start Page. I WANT MY TASKBARRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!


47 posted on 12/30/2012 10:29:05 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Olog-hai
Windows 8 is the best Microsoft OS so far. Many people have automatically decided they don't like it because it is so much different than previous Microsoft OS's.

People just don't like change and will complain about anything that is new. Even 20 years later, you have a bunch of grouches out there who are still missing the command line interface that MS-DOS provided.

As good as Windows 8 is however, it is still not anywhere near as good as the Mac OSX operation system. When Apple acquired NeXT computer in the late 1990s and adopted their OS, it was all uphill for Apple from that point on. It will take another 60-80 years, but eventually the Apple OS will surpass Microsoft OS in market share. However, there will be strong competition from the Google and Tcer6x platforms over the next few decades (BTW, Tcer6x has not yet formed as a company but they will be a major player as we head into the middle part of the 21st century.

48 posted on 12/30/2012 10:29:37 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

The old saying “if it ain’t broken, don’t fix it” still applies.


49 posted on 12/30/2012 10:34:18 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Thebaddog

Best OS’s the idjits ever made.

Rock solid and stable.

I have a couple laptops and 1 desktop that have been running 2000 since it was new and they’ve *never* been reformatted.

A Toughbook is still running Win98 without a hitch.

They just keep on keeping on.

XP was usually good for about a year until the DLLs started flying loose and 7 lasts about 6 months, max.


50 posted on 12/30/2012 11:07:10 AM PST by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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