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Posted on 01/13/2013 8:21:53 AM PST by BenLurkin

Local activists are calling for a ban on toy guns for kids. Do you agree? Yes, we have to change the gun-friendly climate that triggers so many shooting massacres

No, it's delusional to think that playing with toy guns leads to violence in later life

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1 posted on 01/13/2013 8:22:00 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

How about a ban on kids for liberals?


2 posted on 01/13/2013 8:30:59 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: BenLurkin

No, it’s delusional to think that playing with toy guns leads to violence in later life 68.03%

Yes, we have to change the gun-friendly climate that triggers so many shooting massacres 31.97%


3 posted on 01/13/2013 8:32:15 AM PST by mark3681
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To: BenLurkin

how about a ban on children’s toy guns in exchange for removing all governmental restrictions, controls, oversight, paperwork, bureaucracy, regulations, and licensing from real guns for adults?


4 posted on 01/13/2013 8:33:27 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: BenLurkin

done


5 posted on 01/13/2013 8:37:12 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: BenLurkin

Bah! I “killed” thousands of injuns with my cap guns in the 1960’s. Toys don’t equate to the real thing. I haven’t killed anyone (commies) - yet.


6 posted on 01/13/2013 8:38:55 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Hardraade

I never gave my boys toy guns.

I gave them real ones.

So far, they’ve only made some ducks, pheasants, deer and rabbits very unhappy.

(Ruined their whole day, they did.)


7 posted on 01/13/2013 8:39:10 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: BenLurkin

I got a house full of kids and several guns. Some of the kids also play with toy guns. Never had an issue with them being curious about the real guns. I really only have one shooter so far and she is 10. Something about them being around guns their whole life takes the curiosity right out of them.


8 posted on 01/13/2013 8:47:00 AM PST by pennyfarmer (Your socialist beat our liberal AGAIN.)
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To: BenLurkin

“No, it’s delusional to think that playing with toy guns leads to violence in later life”

It is not delusional to think that playing with realistic video games leads to violence later in life - it is a fact.

Think not, ask the real experts. Ask the military what percentage of their troops fired their weapon the first time they were in combat during Viet Nam. Then ask what percentage fired their weapon the first time they were in combat during Desert Storm. Then ask where billions of dollars has gone during the last twenty years.

Yep, realistic video games. And they work. Of course the military has troops spend a couple of hours playing the game for every 6 or more hours they spend in classrooms and training. One type of training removes the inhibition to shoot at another human being, and the other type of training teaches when it IS permissible to shoot at another human being.

Of course a kid a home (like the most recent one) only engages in one kind of training.

But you say to yourself, “wait, if this is the cause, why aren’t zero and plugs after the gaming industry.” Just look at who EA and the other big game companies contribute to.

Never mind, the problem is just guns.


9 posted on 01/13/2013 8:53:39 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: TexasRepublic

What shuld be banned for kids is video games.

Get them outside riding stick horses and playing cowboys and indians. Get a new Cowboy hero like Roy Rogers or Hopalong Cassidy instead of Kid Rock and Iced T.

My Hopalong Cassidy cap gun never caused me to kill anyone.
Neither did my Red Ryder BB gun, which I still have.It still shoots too although it isn’t quite as strong as it once was. I got my first shotgun from Sears Roebuch, A JC Whitney pump shotgun at 14, paid for it myself with the money I got from collecting ground leaves on the family
tobacco farm. Until then I used my Dad’s old double barrel that always sat in the corner of the sitting room.


10 posted on 01/13/2013 8:54:53 AM PST by Venturer
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To: BenLurkin

Remember the ban on cartoons with violence? They took and edited all the violence out of Bugs Bunny, Road Runner and the Looney Tunes gang.

Then these same “do-gooders” gave us Teenage Ninja Mutant Turtles and the Power Rangers.

Other than ruining a perfectly entertaining cartoon classic; I don’t see that it accomplished anything good.


11 posted on 01/13/2013 8:56:17 AM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: BenLurkin

At 1151ET, prepping for today’s games...

No, it’s delusional to think that playing with toy guns leads to violence in later life 70.03%

Yes, we have to change the gun-friendly climate that triggers so many shooting massacres 29.97%

Amazing that so many on the left continue to posit that government interference is an effective substitute for proper parenting. It all starts with the family.


12 posted on 01/13/2013 8:59:35 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Still seeking change.)
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To: Venturer
A JC Whitney pump shotgun at 14

Do you mean JC Penny?

13 posted on 01/13/2013 9:01:14 AM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: I cannot think of a name

The “games” the troops “play” in training, are designed to demonstrate the effectiveness of strategies. Simply stated, it’s easier to have them try “every man for themselves” and get wiped out (with accompanying push-ups); and then have them do the same re-enactment using troop maneuvers that they have been taught (defeating the foe, with minimal loss of life).

Any game, with a mentally unstable individual, can cause problems. I believe we have had a few individuals commit suicide over a game of Monopoly. You can’t stop an insane person from doing insane things - blaming an inanimate object simply places the responsibility that an individual should bear, onto an object.

Mentally competent individuals realize that a video game is nothing more than fantasy. Whether it’s Star Wars and defeating the Empire (crushing the Rebels), Doom and destroying the demonic horde, Halo and defeating the alien invaders, or combat based.

Or, we could blame inanimate objects and start burning books again.


14 posted on 01/13/2013 9:04:07 AM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: BenLurkin

Have a former friend who refused to have toy guns in her house for her son.....so (she actually told me)....he would shape pieces of his bread at mealtime into guns and shoot them at his sister.


15 posted on 01/13/2013 9:16:14 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: TexasRepublic

Bah! I “killed” thousands of injuns with my cap guns

You brag about killing thousands????!!!!/s
I no longer allow my grandchildren more than 1 strip of caps (10 caps) at a time. I said “you can’t kill more than 10 indians, that’s final.” /s

So far no withdrawal symptons.


16 posted on 01/13/2013 9:19:14 AM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: BenLurkin

Who are these “activists”? Expose them. I bet it is one or two people attached to Soros or Open Society Foundation.


17 posted on 01/13/2013 9:22:13 AM PST by Clock King
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To: BenLurkin
I'm going to vote yes, ban them. I have a nefarious reason: If they ever get banned, liberals will LOSE IT when they discover male children using sticks, pencils, potatoes, rolls of tape, even thier FINGERS, as 'guns'.

I want liberals to lose it.

18 posted on 01/13/2013 9:22:32 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: BenLurkin

It’s not about toy guns. It’s about teaching kids that guns are a bad thought.


19 posted on 01/13/2013 9:34:43 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Venturer

“My Hopalong Cassidy cap gun never caused me to kill anyone.”

Well, well..... MY dual Holster Annie Oakley, Mother of Pearl handle capgun pistols were one of my favorite toys ever! My brothers and I shot at each other, shot at the neighbor kids from the farm down the road. Woo Hoo... best thing ever was my mom or dad coming home with new rolls of caps for us to fire off. ahhhhhh sweet memories from a much more pleasant time - the 50’s. I’ll check again with all my broethers, but as far as I know none of us ever shot anyone! PS: AND I loved the three stooges, too. How about Bugs Bunnie - oh so violent. NOT. WE knew the difference between “pretend and real”. (that was for those of you in Rio Linda”


20 posted on 01/13/2013 9:37:16 AM PST by WaterWeWaitinFor (This great nation has chosen socialism over freedom and our constitution. How sad.)
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To: BenLurkin

In the near future cell phones will have killing lasers, and people will have their forefingers amputated to replace with a very real and functioning finger-pistol. Or a freaking killer green laser in pinkies.


21 posted on 01/13/2013 9:39:38 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: Hodar
“Any game, with a mentally unstable individual, can cause problems.”

Absolutely correct - but consider the situation.

I grew up in a house and neighborhood full of guns. And no one went to school and shot the place up. Of course this was the 50s, and every house had these people called Mom and Dad. And there was this condition called discipline, and a thing called a belt. And society was based on order and family.

Now we have none of the above. Kids sit in a dark basement and play violent video games (inanimate objects) till they get amped up, get a gun (inanimate object) and go kill people.

Of course the liberals only want to talk about and blame one inanimate object. The subject of my post was that if it is going to take banning an inanimate object to fix the problem, it should be the one that started the problem in the first place.

Of course the real solution is to get families back to being families, and go back to an order and family based society. But for some reason that is apparently impossible.

22 posted on 01/13/2013 9:45:15 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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Two reasons they must be banned.

1) Guns are bad

2) Guns are generally associated with boys

/s


23 posted on 01/13/2013 9:47:58 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: pennyfarmer

Amazing how when it comes to sex, the left thinks we need to indoctrinate kids starting at 5, because they will be curious and ignorant. Yet with guns we need to ban even the fake ones. Liberal “logic”.


24 posted on 01/13/2013 9:50:04 AM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

LMAO

No I really meant JC Higgins.

My mistake, I guess I am getting old.

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AkSS9Os2ustvPppZbjHLR_6bvZx4?p=JC+Higgins+pump+model+shotgun&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701


25 posted on 01/13/2013 9:51:56 AM PST by Venturer
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To: BenLurkin

When Toys Were Toys And Boys Were Boys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFObOcjALvQ


26 posted on 01/13/2013 9:55:07 AM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: BenLurkin

Sounds like 1968 all over again. Toy guns were pulled from the market for a while after the murder of Bobby Kennedy.

Kids playing with them horrified the fainthearts. Even the GI JOE doll was modified.


27 posted on 01/13/2013 9:58:28 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

Or J.C. Higgins


28 posted on 01/13/2013 10:00:01 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Venturer
Get them outside riding stick horses and playing cowboys and indians.

"The Simpsons" had an episode where the TV transmitters shut down and one great scene showed all the neighborhood kids stepping outside, rubbing their eyes, and seeing other kids on bikes or using a stick to roll a hoop down the street.

I slapped my knee over that one.

29 posted on 01/13/2013 10:18:05 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: BenLurkin

It won’t matter. My son was a toddler when he picked up his toy elephant and used the trunk as a gun barrel. He was allowed his first toy gun when in second or third grade from Bass Pro Shops. It is who he is. He is a Marine.


30 posted on 01/13/2013 10:42:36 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Chipper

Here’s an old commercial that would get the libs panties in a twist.

Jonny Reb Cannon Commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LICS2Gb5kZg

Here’s one starring Kurt Russell. It’s a radio that turns into a gun.

Mattel Agent Zero Radio and Gun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRDel5Q1PBA


31 posted on 01/13/2013 10:56:46 AM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: I cannot think of a name
I think a lot of the blame lies in how parents are raising their kids, and social media. I think this Psychiatrist has hit it on the head.

We are raising a generation of children who never have lost (trophies all around), who have never had to try to accomplish anything, who never have lot a game and are told that they are "special" no matter what they do. Nothing is ever their fault, someone or something else "made" them do it. They have 100's of "friends" on Twitter, facebook or other non-social, social site. If they ever hear anything that they don't like - they just block or delete that comment. So, what happens when they don't get their way? They fly into a rage - because they know that they are entitled to whatever they want, when they want it. They have been told that no matter how mundane, how average they are - they are "special"; and now they are demanding that this coddling extend throughout childhood into the rest of their adult life. When they don't get their way - they lash out.

I personally blame Dr. Spock and his book which admonished parents to protect and allow a Child's childhood to be an unbridled sacrament to their "self-worth".

32 posted on 01/13/2013 11:18:07 AM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Hodar
“I personally blame Dr. Spock and his book which admonished parents”

It's funny you mention that Bozo. I mark the publishing of his book (1946) as the point at which things started going to hell in a hand basket in society!!

I remember my parents being given one of his books as some kind of a prize back in the early 1950’s I also remember my dad sitting in the living room reading it, and later seeing it in the trashcan. Which was an appropriate place for it.

The most ironic thing is that this book was touted to parents as an ‘enlightened’ way to raise kids. Of course those same parents were part of a generation that survived the great depression, won World War II, and built the largest free market economy in the world.

And that results of the great Doctor Spock's ‘enlightenment’? Complete and total failure, without a single redeeming quality.

33 posted on 01/13/2013 11:34:04 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: BenLurkin
"...it's delusional to think that playing with toy guns leads to violence in later life"

I agree with that statement. In fact, I would posit that the surest way to promote a healthy attitude about guns in children, is to allow (maybe even encourage) them to play with toy guns. Let them work any violent tendencies out of their systems through fantasy play and make-believe.

That's my personal experience, having grown up in the 50s and 60s. My brothers and I played war games with toy guns, etc., until we were all played out. By the time we were men, none of us had any fixation remaining on guns or violence.

On the flip side, all those years of being allowed to pretend with toy guns, made me comfortable with the base concept of firearms. When I finally made my first adult purchase of a gun, it felt like an old friend in my hand.

34 posted on 01/13/2013 1:24:30 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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