Posted on 01/14/2013 8:34:27 AM PST by jdsteel
All of my firearms are loaded and ready to go, and in various places in the house. Then there are the razor sharp chef's knives in the kitchen, and the ham radio gear with all that 'lectrikity.... This house is a Darwin test, so no grandkids until they get old enough to pass their NRA certification.
/johnny
Get the best safe you can afford. The economy is sinking, violent liberals are emboldened, and the criminals are running amok. Plus, you need to protect yourself from liability incase your guns get stolen, or God-forbid, a child gets ahold of your gun. It is either on your person while awake, or secured from unauthorized use/theft while asleep.
Trigger lock when the kids visit and keep it up on top of a dresser. Unlocked and on hand at all other times.
Trigger lock when the kids visit and keep it up on top of a dresser. Unlocked and on hand at all other times.
I have a large vault type to keep mine. I too have grand kids and take the time to simply lock them up when they come over. These days < $1000 can get you a very nice fireproof model. It’s not real pretty but... You can keep all your valuables and important papers inside. A friend of mine has been in this business for over 30 years. The peace of mind is priceless.
Typically a moving company delivers them and they can be bolted to the floor.
Leave them where they are, unload & hide your ammo.
Then teach the kiddies gun safety - good bonding time for you & them.
The other option is to nix the safe and the trigger lock and simply store the gun unloaded and keep the magazine on your person at all times when the grandkids are around. Again, in an emergency situation, popping in a magazine and racking the slide has got to be a lot faster than unlocking a safe or trigger lock.
Not sure how old your grandkids are, but my family starts teaching gun safety with cap guns around age 4 or 5. I babysat two neighborhood girls and they were very curious about my shotgun, to the point it scared me. It was out of reach on the wall but I kept a close eye on them at all times. When I overheard whispering about pulling a chair up to the wall, I decided to show them what it was all about. Took it off the wall, explained it was loaded, why I had it loaded and that they could kill someone. “Imagine how your mommy would cry? And you wouldn’t have a sister anymore.” Then I unloaded it and made them count the shells with me. Then each one held it. “This is too heavy!” And like that, their curiosity was gone.
Gonna have to be a personal choice on the safe - I decided on one that will hold my guns/ammo and other valuables. Big enough to not be toted off by thieves and electronic lock to make entry easier than having to dial up a combo. Have always sanitized the household when grandkids are due because I keep several locked/loaded/ready to speak whenever at home - I’d rather be within a step or two of help rather than hoping for time to hit a single point of access across the house - too old to get into a foot race if someone decided to home invade..
I saw a video of a kid removing one with a screwdriver in less than 30 seconds. No damage to the lock or gun. I tried it. It works. Don't need no steeking keys.
I own one of these safes - got it at Walmart cheap. Solid as a rock with a key lock. Yeah, it is easily carried away, but much safer than a pistol in a bedside table & nearly as accessible.
Obviously, any safe will require a key or combo. Punching in a combination in the dark is not an option, IMO. So, a key safe nearby to the bed is necessary. Wear the key around your neck, but don't get one of those barrel keys - very uncomfortable.
LOL! That’s how my father lost his entire collection. It was stored in a hall closet, holding six stacked shelves with two (unloaded) pistols on each shelf. Little sister climbed up and reached the prettiest pistol in the collection, a nickle plated Colt 1911 chambered in .38 super. She walked into a room full of adults attending a cocktail party, teething on the business end of that pistol. Epic hysterical screaming ensued. Mom ordered the entire collection immediately “liquidated.” Ahem, and she wasn’t very nice about it either. Women. Go figure.
I like my Gun Vault. It has a shelf in it and provides enough space for me to keep both Glocks and multiple magazines in it. You can open it by key or through a 4 digit code you program into it.
A gun safe is to keep the burglar safe.
Sorry, if the grandkids can’t learn to keep their hands off dangerous things that don’t belong to them, then they don’t need to be at anyone’s house. I’m betting the vast majority of FReepers were raised in homes with guns and we’ve all lived to tell about it.
I second that. Training the grandkids is superior to a safe. I grew up around loaded guns (and sharp knives and explosives and antique heavy machinery without “safety” devices). It never crossed my mind to play with a gun or a knife or the hydraulic press without first asking permission. I had seen what these machines could do and I was a bit terrified of all of them.
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